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We're back from our most challenging and trying camping trip yet! The screeching, yelling, constant instigation, and tantrums were over the top and the kids had some bad behavior too.

Katie and I sit down for an honest conversation about some difficulties we have as parents and how we're slowly catching on.  As a firefighter, my daughters high pitched tantrum gives me the same jolt and reaction as the full still tones and I have a tough time dealing.

And yet, we choose to pack up the truck, drive long distance and live in a 8x20 foot shoebox for a week at a time.

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