Out Late With David

Summary  

In this episode of Out Late with David, Bill Schroeder shares his transformative journey of coming out as a gay man at the age of 60 after 37 years of marriage. He reflects on the feelings of fear and authenticity that led him to finally embrace his true self. Bill discusses the emotional challenges he faced, the reactions of his family, and the importance of self-discovery. He emphasizes that it's never too late to live authentically and offers advice for others who may be struggling with their identity.   Keywords   coming out, LGBTQ, authenticity, self-discovery, family dynamics, life coaching, personal growth, emotional journey, gay men, late life coming out  

Takeaways  

• Turning 60 was a pivotal moment for Bill.
• He felt his life was fake before coming out.
• Fear of losing family and friends kept him in the closet.
• Bill's camping trip was a time for deep reflection.
• His ex-wife's support was crucial for his journey.
• Family reactions varied, with his daughter initially upset.
• Bill's son took time to accept his father's new identity.
• He found a sense of belonging in the LGBTQ community.
• Authenticity has brought him peace and happiness.
• Bill encourages others to take baby steps in their journey.

 Sound Bites  

"I wanted to feel more authentic."
"I could have done this 10 years ago."
"Fear kept me in the closet for years."  

Chapters  
00:00 A Turning Point at 60
12:40 The Journey of Coming Out
19:55 Authenticity and Self-Discovery
22:09 Advice for Others in the Closet  

Podcast website and resources: https://www.OutLateWithDavid.com  

YouTube Edition:  https://youtu.be/9TEPfX13JB8  

YouTube Channel:   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvsthP9yClKI4o5LxbuQnOg  

Certified Professional Life Coach, David Cotton:  https://www.DavidCottonCoaching.com  

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Summary  

In this conversation with David, LGBTQ+ ally and researcher Kami Hunley-Jackson, who shares her personal journey and research on the coming out process, particularly focusing on the experiences of LGBTQ+ individuals and their families. The former Latter Day Saint is the mother of two LGBTQ+ children and sister to her gay brother. She discusses the challenges faced by families, the impact of religion, and the importance of communication and support systems. Kami emphasizes the need for understanding and acceptance, both for those coming out and their loved ones, and highlights the mental health implications of the coming out journey. The conversation also touches on the evolving nature of religious acceptance and the importance of creating safe spaces for dialogue.   Keywords   coming out, LGBTQ+, acceptance, mental health, family support, religion, communication, research, personal stories, allyship  

Takeaways  

• Kami's personal experiences with her children and brother shaped her understanding of the coming out process.
• The decision between religious beliefs and family acceptance can be a painful conflict for parents.
• Supportive communities, like Mama Dragons, provide essential resources for families of LGBTQ+ individuals.
• The theater community often offers a more accepting environment for LGBTQ+ individuals.
• Kami's research revealed that non-religious individuals tend to communicate better during the coming out process.
• Mental health issues, including suicidal ideation, were prevalent among the study participants.
• Self-acceptance is a crucial step in the coming out journey, often requiring individuals to confront their identity.
• The coming out process is deeply personal and should be respected as such by family members.
• Creating a safe space for communication is vital for both the individual coming out and their loved ones.
• Religious institutions are evolving, with some becoming more inclusive of LGBTQ+ individuals.

Sound Bites  

• "I realized that I needed to search my own heart."
• "The love of a mother over the situation."
• "I acted differently this time around."  

Audio Chapters  

00:00 Understanding the Importance of Coming Out
02:36 Personal Journeys: Family and Acceptance 05:25 The Role of Religion in Coming Out
08:35 Research Insights: Communication and Relationships
11:13 Mental Health and the Coming Out Process
14:05 Support Systems and Resources
16:48 Advice for Families and Individuals
19:51 Looking Ahead: Future Research Directions  

Podcast website and resources: https://www.OutLateWithDavid.com  

YouTube Edition:   https://youtu.be/jCsPAB9C2aM 

YouTube Channel:   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvsthP9yClKI4o5LxbuQnOg  

Certified Professional Life Coach, David Cotton:  https://www.DavidCottonCoaching.com  

Contact David: 

• mailto:[email protected]
• https://www.DavidCottonCoaching.com
• https://www.OutLateWithDavid.com
• https://linktr.ee/davidacotton  

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Summary  

At age 67, Wendy Cole transitioned from male to female after a lifetime of hiding her true identity. In this candid conversation, Wendy shares the emotional cost of repression, her turning point in 2014, and how she found joy, health, and purpose by finally embracing who she is. Now a mentor and advocate, Wendy is helping others navigate their own gender journeys and working to humanize what it means to be transgender.  

Keywords  

transgender, coming out, identity, support, mental health, community, authenticity, transition, LGBTQ+, personal growth  

Takeaways  

• Wendy transitioned male to female at age 67.
• She felt a lifelong sense of not belonging.
• Gender identity is formed in the brain during the second trimester.
• Wendy faced significant societal and familial pressure to conform.
• She repressed her identity for decades due to fear and shame.
• The DSM's classification of LGBTQ+ identities has evolved over time.
• Wendy found support and community later in life.
• She emphasizes the importance of living authentically.
• Wendy's mission is to educate others about transgender experiences.
• It's never too late to pursue one's true identity.

Sound Bites  

• "I was punished for breaking my glasses."
• "I was taken to a psychiatrist."
• "I was threatened with being committed."
• "I couldn't take it anymore."
• "I was doing this out of survival."
• "I was pretty much on my own."
• "I was going to do this for me."
• "It's never too late to take charge."

Audio Chapters  

00:00  Wendy's Journey of Self-Discovery
11:58  The Struggles of Repression and Acceptance
22:15  Transitioning and Finding Community
32:29  Living Authentically and Educating Others  

More About Wendy Cole:   

• http://meetwendycole.com/
• https://wendycolegtm.net/category/podcasts/
• Demystifying the Transgender Journey Podcast: https://wendycolegtm.net/episode-001-demystifying-this-podcast/

Podcast website and resources: https://www.OutLateWithDavid.com  

YouTube Edition:    https://youtu.be/eU5v97dHNIs 

YouTube Channel:   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvsthP9yClKI4o5LxbuQnOg  

Certified Professional Life Coach, David Cotton:  https://www.DavidCottonCoaching.com  

Contact David: 

• mailto:[email protected]
• https://www.DavidCottonCoaching.com
• https://www.OutLateWithDavid.com
• https://linktr.ee/davidacotton  

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Thank you to Jon & Brian of Out Loud for allowing me to publish this episode from their podcast. You guys are fantastic! I've been a fan since I first discovered you on YouTube! Keep living your life, OUT LOUD!!

Out Loud Podcast with Jon and Brian:

• https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/out-loud/id1560962922
• https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHLEcaJ0RewmS9XyfVa-fww

Summary  

In this episode of Out Late With David, David Cotton is a guest on the podcast, Out Loud, while visiting Key West FL. Along with the hosts of Out Loud, Jon and Brian, they discuss the complexities of coming out later in life, the importance of community support, and the dynamics of relationships, especially for older gay men. He shares insights from his experiences and those of his guests, emphasizing the need for authenticity, compassion, and understanding in navigating personal journeys and family dynamics. The conversation also touches on the challenges faced by older men in the dating world and offers advice on how to approach relationships with clarity and openness.  

Keywords  

coming out, LGBTQ, age gap relationships, gay community, life coaching, support, authenticity, family dynamics, relationships, self-discovery  

Takeaways  

• Coming out later in life can be a complex journey.
• Community support is crucial for those coming out.
• Navigating family dynamics requires patience and understanding.
• Authenticity is key to living a fulfilling life.
• Older men face unique challenges in dating.
• It's important to communicate clearly in relationships.
• Self-acceptance is a vital part of the coming out process.
• Compartmentalization can hinder personal growth.
• You can maintain relationships even after coming out.
• Love can be found unexpectedly, regardless of age.

Sound Bites

• "Don't rush into coming out."
• "I couldn't continue living a lie."
• "You have to accept who you are."
• "I feel transparent many times."

Audio Chapters  

00:00  Introduction to Out Late with David
01:06  Coming Out Later in Life
04:05  The Role of Community and Support
07:54  Navigating Relationships and Family Dynamics
12:09  The Impact of Age and Experience
15:54  Living Authentically and Finding Peace
18:45  Advice for Older Men in Dating  

Podcast website and resources: https://www.OutLateWithDavid.com  

YouTube Edition:   https://youtu.be/YOGFb9CWCjw  

YouTube Channel:   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvsthP9yClKI4o5LxbuQnOg  

Certified Professional Life Coach, David Cotton:  https://www.DavidCottonCoaching.com  

Contact me:  mailto:[email protected]  
https://www.DavidCottonCoaching.com
https://www.OutLateWithDavid.com
https://linktr.ee/davidacotton

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Summary  

In this conversation, Wayne Scott shares his journey through a mixed orientation marriage, detailing the challenges and transformations he and his wife faced. They navigated the complexities of identity, love, and commitment, ultimately redefining their relationship through non-monogamy. Wayne emphasizes the importance of communication, patience, and the willingness to adapt as individuals grow over time. His story serves as a testament to the possibility of creating a fulfilling partnership that honors both personal and shared desires.  

Keywords  

mixed orientation marriage, non-monogamy, relationships, LGBTQ+, marriage advice, communication, love story, personal growth, therapy, bisexuality, coming out, LGBTQ+  

Takeaways  

• Mixed orientation marriages can thrive without ending in divorce.
• Communication is key in navigating relationship challenges.
• Non-monogamy can be a viable option for some couples.
• Patience is essential when exploring new relationship dynamics.
• It's important to redefine what marriage means to you.
• Love can persist through difficult transitions in a relationship.
• Couples can create their own rules for their relationship.
• Support from a therapist can facilitate difficult conversations.
• Children can adapt to their parents' non-traditional relationships.
• Personal growth is a continuous journey within a marriage.

Sound Bites  

• "It doesn't always end in divorce."
• "A new idea turned his marriage into a love story."
• "Your marriage can be whatever you want it to be."
• "It's okay to take a couple years to figure it out."
• "It can be whatever you want it to be."
• "They chose to break the rules and norms of society."

Audio Chapters  

00:00 Navigating Mixed Orientation Marriages
09:50 The Shift to Non-Monogamy
20:01 Lessons Learned from Non-Traditional Relationships  

Podcast website and resources: https://www.OutLateWithDavid.com  

YouTube Edition:    https://youtu.be/wHFdiTkYoYk  

YouTube Channel:   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvsthP9yClKI4o5LxbuQnOg  

Certified Professional Life Coach, David Cotton:  https://www.DavidCottonCoaching.com  

Contact me:  mailto:[email protected]  

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In this episode of Out Late with David, Stefan Schneider shares his journey of coming out as gay, navigating relationships, and building a modern family. He reflects on the challenges of coming out in the early 90s, the impact of his sexuality on his marriage, and the emotional turmoil of divorce. Through self-discovery and therapy, Stefan learns to embrace his identity and finds happiness in his new life with his husband and blended family. The conversation highlights the importance of authenticity, communication, and the complexities of family dynamics in the LGBTQ+ community.   

Takeaways  

• Coming out is a complex process that varies for everyone.
• The societal context during the early 90s made coming out challenging.
• Authenticity in relationships can create both closeness and tension.
• Divorce can be a painful but necessary step towards self-acceptance.
• Rebuilding relationships with children requires patience and love.
• Self-discovery often involves confronting difficult truths about oneself.
• Having a clear vision of what you want in a partner can guide your choices.
• The journey to happiness is not linear and requires effort.
• Childhood experiences can shape one's understanding of identity.
• Creating a supportive environment for children is crucial during transitions.

Sound Bites  

• "I just wanted to fit in and be normal."
• "The only way out is through sometimes."
• "I always wanted to be a dad."
• "I had to sacrifice something of myself."
• "I felt like I had split up my family."
• "We met on Christian Mingle."  

Chapters  

00:00 Navigating Identity and Relationships
15:00 The Journey of Self-Discovery
30:00 Building a Blended Family
33:48 Reflections on Happiness and Authenticity  

Podcast website and resources: https://www.OutLateWithDavid.com  

YouTube Edition:  https://youtu.be/YGWJGVhw2s8

YouTube Channel:   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvsthP9yClKI4o5LxbuQnOg  

Certified Professional Life Coach, David Cotton:  https://www.DavidCottonCoaching.com  

Contact me:  mailto:[email protected]  

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Summary  

Mark Dembo shares his journey of coming out at the age of 59, reflecting on the challenges and transformations he faced in his relationships, particularly with his wife and children. He discusses the emotional weight of living a life that felt inauthentic and the liberation he felt upon embracing his true self. Mark emphasizes the importance of support from family and community, and the complexities of navigating a mixed-orientation marriage. His story highlights the potential for love and acceptance even in the face of significant life changes. Mark emphasizes the significance of love and understanding in navigating the challenges of coming out later in life, offering insights and advice for others on similar journeys.   Keywords   coming out, LGBTQ, self-discovery, relationships, family dynamics, support groups, acceptance, personal growth, authenticity, mental health  

Takeaways  

• Coming out later in life can be a complex journey.
• Self-acceptance often comes with emotional weight.
• Support from family is crucial during the coming out process.
• Navigating relationships requires patience and understanding.
• Community support can provide a sense of belonging.
• Publicly embracing one's identity can be liberating.
• It's important to allow space for emotions in relationships.
• Guilt is a common feeling for those coming out later in life.
• Maintaining friendships post-separation is possible.
• Every individual's journey is unique, but shared experiences can help.

Sound Bites  

• "I was living somebody else's life."
• "I consider myself so very lucky in who she is."
• "I want to do whatever I can to help."
• "You have nothing to feel guilty for."
• "I recognize that I didn't choose this."
• "I can't fight that; it's who I am."

Audio Chapters  

00:00 Mark's Journey of Self-Discovery
07:51 The Impact of Coming Out on Relationships
15:45 Navigating Family Dynamics
20:57 Finding Community and Support
26:05 Publicly Embracing Authenticity  


Podcast website and resources: https://www.OutLateWithDavid.com  

YouTube Edition:  https://youtu.be/8RrNuddNU-c  

YouTube Channel:   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvsthP9yClKI4o5LxbuQnOg  

Certified Professional Life Coach, David Cotton:  https://www.DavidCottonCoaching.com  

Contact me:  mailto:[email protected]  

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Summary  

In this interview David Cotton speaks with John Duerler who shares his journey of self-discovery as a gay man, navigating the complexities of coming out to his family and the challenges of maintaining relationships. He discusses the importance of being true to oneself, the supportive reactions from his family, and the creation of a community for gay fathers. John emphasizes the significance of open communication and offers advice for others in similar situations, highlighting that they are not alone in their struggles.   Keywords   coming out, LGBTQ, family dynamics, self-discovery, relationships, gay fathers, acceptance, mental health, personal growth, community support   Takeaways  

• John's journey of self-discovery began in childhood.
• He dated women for many years before coming out.
• Family support played a crucial role in his coming out process.
• John's children reacted positively to his coming out.
• He emphasizes the importance of therapy in understanding one's identity.
• John's relationship with his wife remains amicable despite their separation.
• He created a community for gay fathers to share experiences.
• John's podcast aims to help others navigate similar journeys.
• He believes in the power of open communication within families.
• John encourages others to seek help and support during their journey.

 Sound Bites

"I had to be true to myself."
"I want to come work for you."
"It gets better."
"You're not alone."
"Be true to yourself. Get help."  

Audio Chapters    

00:00 Introduction to Coming Out Journeys
03:00 Early Experiences and Realizations
05:55 Navigating Relationships and Family Dynamics
08:49 The Impact of Family and Support Systems
12:13 Coming Out to Family and Friends
15:10 Creating a Supportive Community
18:02 Reflections on Dating and Relationships
20:46 Advice for Others on Their Journey
24:07 Conclusion and Resources


Book Recommendation:  Fashionably Late: Gay, Bi, and Trans Men Who Came Out Later in Life, edited by Vinnie Kinsella.   https://a.co/d/dh3N2yM  

Podcast website and resources: https://www.OutLateWithDavid.com  

YouTube Edition:  https://youtu.be/0Dx2jCfpzlQ  

YouTube Channel:   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvsthP9yClKI4o5LxbuQnOg  

Certified Professional Life Coach, David Cotton:  https://www.DavidCottonCoaching.com  

Contact me:  mailto:[email protected]

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In this conversation, David Cotton speaks with David Nygaard about his journey of coming out as gay later in life. They discuss the challenges of recognizing one's identity in a society that often stigmatizes homosexuality, the complexities of navigating relationships and marriage, and the impact of a significant health crisis on Nygaard's life. Nygaard shares his experiences of embracing authenticity, his political aspirations, and the importance of open communication in relationships. The conversation concludes with advice for those in mixed orientation marriages, emphasizing the need for self-acceptance and seeking professional guidance.  David also offers advice for others who may be struggling with their identity and relationships.  

Keywords   coming out, LGBTQ+, self-discovery, relationships, authenticity, heart attack, personal growth, life changes, gay marriage, mental health  

Takeaways  

• Coming out later in life can be a complex journey.
• David Nygaard's story reflects the complexities of self-discovery.
• Growing up, he felt an early attraction to men but lacked the language to express it.
• He wore a metaphorical mask to hide his true self.
• His involvement in evangelical Christianity was a way to escape depression.
• David's marriage was filled with happiness despite his hidden sexuality.
• The divorce allowed him to explore his identity more freely.
• He experienced a life-changing heart attack that prompted a reevaluation of his life.
• Authenticity became a priority after his health crisis.
• Political activism can be a way to impact the community positively.
• It's important to seek therapy to navigate mixed orientation marriages.
• David Cotton emphasizes the importance of dating oneself before seeking a partner.
• He encourages others to seek therapy to navigate their feelings.

 Sound Bites  

• "My story reads like a soap opera."
• "I always had an affinity or an attraction to guys."
• "We grew up in an age where it was illegal to be gay."
• "I put on what I'd say is a three foot mask."  

Audio Chapters  

00:00 Awakening to Identity
05:40 Navigating Relationships and Marriage
10:02 Embracing Authenticity Post-Divorce
18:16 Health Crisis and Life Changes
24:32 Political Aspirations and Community Impact
27:55 Building a New Relationship
30:47 Advice for Those in Mixed Orientation Marriages  

Book Recommendation:  “Is My Husband Gay, Straight or Bi?” by Joe Kort. https://a.co/d/0J2egb1  

Podcast website and resources: https://www.OutLateWithDavid.com  

YouTube Edition:  https://youtu.be/4ius0O4Y_8U

YouTube Channel:   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvsthP9yClKI4o5LxbuQnOg  

Certified Professional Life Coach, David Cotton:  https://www.DavidCottonCoaching.com  

Contact me:  [email protected]

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Summary  

Brian Janes, a successful real estate broker, came out as gay at age 49 after 26 years of marriage. He loved being married and had a strong connection with his wife, but deep down, he had a sexual desire that didn't match up with her. After years of therapy and self-help, his wife eventually told him she wanted a divorce. Brian knew he was gay from a young age but didn't know how to embrace it. He suppressed his true self and lived in fear of being found out. After his divorce, he made the decision to come out and started a podcast for men coming out later in life.  

Keywords:  comingout, marriage, divorce, self-discovery, suppression, fear, loneliness, podcast, outlate, gay, alwaysgay  

Takeaways

Suppressing your true self can lead to frustration and strain in relationships.
Coming out later in life can be a difficult and lonely process.
Embracing your true self can lead to personal growth and a more fulfilling life.
Sharing your story and being vulnerable can help others going through similar experiences.  

Titles

The Journey of Coming Out Later in Life
Embracing Your True Self and Finding Personal Growth  

Sound Bites
"Don't Let Your Wonder Turn Into Closure"
"Here I Am, a Proud Gay Man"
"You're Not Alone, We're All Out Here"  

Chapters (audio)

00:00 Introduction: Brian James' Journey
01:15 The Love and Connection of Marriage
03:11 The Strain and Separation in Divorce
04:09 Suppressing Identity and Fear of Coming Out
08:27 Embracing Authenticity and Self-Discovery
14:13 Coming Out to Ex-Wife and Children
18:12 Starting the Podcast: Coming Inside Out
23:09 Loneliness and Struggles After Coming Out
28:14 Advice for Married Men Struggling with Acceptance
30:31 Conclusion: Forgiving and Loving Yourself  


Chapters (video)

00:00 Introduction and Background
03:04 Suppressing True Self in a Marriage
07:50 The Decision to Come Out
10:43 The Power of Wonder and Curiosity
13:36 Coming Out to Ex-Wife and Children
17:23 Exploring the New World
19:17 Regrets and Self-Kindness
21:2 0Loneliness and Self-Discovery
24:19 Starting the Podcast
27:37 Advice for Married Men Struggling with Acceptance
29:54 Summary and Closing  

Song Lyric Reflection: Ben Platt's "Older." 

• Older lyrics:  https://www.google.com/search?q=ben+platt+older+lyrics&oq=ben+platt+older+lyrics&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIKCAEQABiABBiiBDIKCAIQABiABBiiBNIBCDQ2NzdqMGo3qAIIsAIB&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
• Older on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_sADbvPmzE  

Podcast website and resources: https://www.OutLateWithDavid.com  

YouTube Edition:    https://youtu.be/n3Iuqhu2K5M 

YouTube Channel:   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvsthP9yClKI4o5LxbuQnOg   Certified

Professional Life Coach, David Cotton:  https://www.DavidCottonCoaching.com  

Contact me:  mailto:[email protected]

© 2024 David Cotton Coaching, LLC. All rights reserved.The "Out Late With David" podcast and its content are the property of David Cotton Coaching, LLC. Unauthorized use and/or duplication of this material without express and written permission from David Cotton Coaching, LLC is strictly prohibited. Excerpts and links may be used, provided that full and clear credit is given to "Out Late With David" and David Cotton Coaching, LLC with appropriate and specific direction to the original content.