This week, the delightful Bill Tanner! We discuss sports, aging, shitty jobs, bbqs, coffee roasting, vulnerability, the fate of bananas, the difference between abuse and manipulation in coaching, and one of our fave ice hockey movies, Miracle.

Welcome to Out of Curiosity with kt mather, the podcast where I talk with people who are good at talking! Every week I talk with a guest about how we know each other, what the guest does that's cool, and then we'll take a deep dive into a book or movie.