This is a special episode for the group exhibition Refusal / Futurity at Platform Arts, Geelong.

Exhibition dates: SAT 10 MAY—FRI 11 JUL 2025

Curated by Jody Haines, Refusal / Futurity is a group exhibition of contemporary women's self-portraiture, exploring how the artists use lens-based media as a tool and mechanism to subvert the colonial, western and patriarchal gaze. The exhibition features Eddie Abd, Hayley Millar Baker, Amy Carkeek, Pia Johnson, Clare Rae, Jahkarli Felicitas Romanis, Jody Haines(C).

The episode shares interviews with artist curator Jody Haines, Jahkarli Felicitas Romanis and Clare Rae in the studio, and artist talk recordings from the opening event by Amy Carkeek and Pia Johnson.

Trigger Warning****Please note that this episode contains potentially distressing material, and discusses topics including the Aboriginal Stolen Generation, childbirth and mental health concerns.

The essay written by Kelly Hussey-Smith relating to the exhibition can be found here.

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This episode of Out of the Frame: Conversations about Photography features guest artist Katrin Koenning talking to host Pia Johnson about photography as a process and the idea of drawing closer.

Katrin Koenning’s work centres around practice as relational encounter. In extended image-dialogues, Katrin uses fragments and slippages to suggest narrative spaces, communities and lived experiences that are allied, fluid and multiplicit.

Please note, this episode includes discussion about mental health and suicide, which may be triggering for some listeners. If you have concerns about your own situation, please reach out to a professional or get support from https://www.beyondblue.org.au.

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This episode of Out of the Frame: Conversations about Photography features guest artist Matt Dunne talking to host Pia Johnson about photographing nature and seeing beyond the immediate story, as well as all things about publishing photobooks for Tall Poppy Press.

Matt Dunne is an artist whose work explores Australia’s environment as a product of colonial legacy. Using photography and research as a basis, he develops publications, installations and education programs that engage wide-ranging and diverse audiences to deepen their connection to the world around them.

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This episode of Out of the Frame: Conversations about Photography features guest artist Isabella Capezio talking to host Pia Johnson about their practice covering ideas about queering the landscape, bodies and making photographs in the darkroom.

Isabella Capezio is a photographer, artist and a lecturer in Photography in the School of Art at RMIT. Isabella’s research and artwork engages in themes of failure, queerness and landscape. Isabella is experimenting with alternative ways to reflect on place, vision, ‘nature’ and colonial frameworks of power through landscape photography.

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This episode of Out of the Frame: Conversations about Photography features guest artist Lesley Turnbull talking to host Pia Johnson about her practice, notions of growing up a tomboy, being a lesbian and photographing the Scottish landscape.

Lesley is a Scottish Australian artist and teacher with a research-based art practice that investigates photo-based practices, performance, creative writing, and sculpture to explore how marginalisation shapes personal narratives and lived experiences.

More on Lesley: https://www.lesley-turnbull.com

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This episode of Out of the Frame: Conversations about Photography features guest artist Emma Phillips talking to host Pia Johnson about her love of photographing people, being a feminist and advocating for the sexy-selfie.

Emma Phillips is a photographer and researcher/lecturer in Visual Communication with the University of Canberra. Her work uses photographic methodologies which foreground the representational experiences of women and non-binary people. More on Emma www.emmaphillips.com.au

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This episode of Out of the Frame : Conversations about Photography features guest photographer Kate Robertson talking to host Pia Johnson about how she engages with community and landscape with authentic connection and mindfulness.

Through experimental analogue and digital photographic techniques, Kate explores unseen yet felt phenomena relating to healing and connectedness within environmental community contexts. She works with camera-less photographic methods and with photographic processes that can act as a receptacle for absorbing and understanding imparted information, rather than merely a mechanism for capturing a descriptive likeness.

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With a love of visual stories, Sarah’s experience spans across food & beverage, interiors and architecture. A practical problem solver, Sarah helps clients bring their work to life - always aiming to understand and capture the story beyond the shot.

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Melbourne based Zoë Croggon works with sculpture, video, drawing and primarily, collage. Her practice considers the relationship between the kinetic body and its surroundings, contemplating the role we play in our environment and how deeply our surroundings inform the cadence of our lives.

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