In this episode, we dive into the incredible story of Winnie McClutchie, who bravely shares her journey from a traumatic childhood steeped in abuse to finding hope in Christ. Starting with her tormented upbringing, Winnie opens up about the generational abuse she endured and her early *negative* exposure to Christianity. Angry at God, Winnie became an atheist and had her first attempted s*icide at just eight years old. Neglect and poverty later led to Winnie falling into criminal activity, including fraud and identity theft.

However, Winnie’s story doesn’t stop there. Later in life, through the work of the Lord, she was able to forgive her abusive mother. Winnie's journey is a powerful testament to the transformative and redemptive work of the Holy Spirit. 

0:00 - Coming up 
1:45 - Welcome & Introduction
2:26 - The start of Winnie's story
3:49 - Extreme childhood abuse
8:33 - Winnie's exposure to Christianity at an early age
11:13 - Generational s*xual abuse 
13:50 - Atheism and s*icide attempt at 8 years old
23:14 - Observing and experimenting with Christianity
27:56 - Beginning of criminal activity
33:30 - Progressing to fraud and identity theft
36:46 - Becoming a Mum at 16
39:13 - Forgiving her abusive Mum
45:12 - What is Whāngai?
47:46 - Going to women's refuge
49:27 - Coping as a mother

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In this episode, Julie and I dive into the beauty of fresh faith and share some advice for those just starting their Christian journey. We tackle some big questions like, "Where should I start reading my Bible?", "Why hasn't God answered my prayer?", "What does the 'blood of Jesus' mean?" and we also explore the concept of suffering as a Christian and how it shapes our faith—click here to check out Julie's podcast episode on this topic for more insight!

As the episode continues, we reflect on the patience of God as He waits for us and journeys with us through the ongoing process of sanctification and I share a bit about my struggles with self-righteousness. Whether you’re a new believer or a seasoned Christian, this episode offers encouragement and wisdom wherever you are on your faith walk.

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0:00 - Coming up
0:56 - Intro
1:09 - The beauty of a new believer
2:34 - Advice for new Christians 
4:32 - When should I start reading my Bible?
8:50 - Why hasn't God answered my prayer?
14:00 - Suffering as a Christian 
15:50 - How patient God is to wait for us
16:48 - Sanctification
17:43 - I was self-righteous
21:17 - What does 'the blood of Jesus' mean?
25:33 - Final thoughts 
29:50 - Coming up next week

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In this episode, Sarah shares with us the next chapter of her incredible journey. We pick things up with the moment she turned away from the 'Universe', asking the one true God to heal her from endometriosis. Sarah experienced miraculous healing and deliverance one evening at Youth Group all at the same time as committing her life to Christ. Sarah shares about how she received the gift of tongues from the Holy Spirit and how her life changed dramatically after embracing her faith in Jesus Christ. Sarah compares her past in the New Age with her newfound Christianity, and we geek out together about how amazing Jesus is!

Sarah also opens up about her family's reaction to her conversion and offers a message to anyone currently involved in the New Age or drugs. We discuss Christian celibacy, the joy of healing, and the sense of belonging that comes with joining the Christian faith. Finally, Sarah answers a listener question about marijuana and pain relief, and shares how she's living out her faith outside of Sunday.

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0:00 - Previously 
0:37 - Intro
1:37 - Sarah asks God to heal her Endometriosis
5:17 - Miraculous healing and deliverance from demons
12:47 - Receiving the gift of tongues from the Holy Spirit
15:46 - Comparing Christianity to the New Age
17:28 - Christian meditation 
19:37 - The change in Sarah after coming to Christ
24:27 - Geeking out about how great Jesus is
29:12 - How Sarah's family has reacted to her conversion to Christianity 
30:38 - Message for anyone currently in the New Age or Drugs
33:14 - Discussing Christian celibacy
37:31 - Don't be afraid to heal
39:50 - When you become a Christian you join a family
42:17 - Being able to eat Gluten and Dairy again
43:36 - Listener question: Did smoking marijuana help with pain relief or just get you high?
47:17 - How is Sarah living her faith outside of Sunday?
50:32 - Coming up Next Week

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In part 1 of our chat with Sarah, you will hear all about her journey into the New Age and the beginnings of her conversion to Christianity. Sarah shares how anxiety and panic attacks took over her life at an early age, leading her into New Age practices like crystals and meditation and becoming a Reiki 'healer'. Despite initially feeling a sense of relief and awakening, her spiritual path soon began to unravel.

Sarah opens up about hitting rock bottom with her mental health struggles, endometriosis and anorexia, and how the New Age practices stopped 'working'. Returning home to her Mum, Sarah grew curious about Christianity and ultimately realized that her New Age beliefs were filled with lies.

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0:00 - Coming up
1:00 - Intro
1:14 - Welcome
2:04 - About Sarah
3:59 - Sarah's Christian background
6:06 - The longevity of prayer
7:30 - The beginnings of anxiety and panic attacks
8:10 - Doing what was right in my own eyes
10:38 - Anxiety ruled my life
12:22 - Extreme periods and going on 'the pill'
13:28 - "The pill... changed my sense of smell"
14:33 - Getting off 'the pill'
15:23 - Body image struggles
17:12 - The start of Sarah's spiritual journey
19:02 - Experimenting in the New Age
19:55 - What is Reiki Healing? Sarahs experience
21:40 - Moving deeper into New Age practices 
22:47 - Mixing dr*gs and meditation
23:45 - New Age spiritual awakening
24:38 - Trapped in remote New Zealand in a flood and stranded for 2 days
29:10 - New Age turns sour
31:35 - Sarah's pain and struggle in stage 3 endometriosis 
35:19 - Rock bottom of Sarah's mental health struggles, anorexia and reiki not 'working' anymore
39:50 - Moving back home to Mum
43:03 - Becoming curious about Christianity 
43:37 - Reiki is witchcraft, 'speaking to the dead' isn't real, the lie of New Age spirituality
46:49 - Demonic experience
50:20 - Coming up next week

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In this 'Insights' episode Julie and I (Christa)  reflect on the recent episode with Maria from Focus on the Family NZ, starting with a deeper look at the Bible verse, "Be still and know that I am God." We chat about how making space for quiet time deepens our connection and relationship with God.

We also talk about the challenges of simply sitting with ourselves and God and the ministry of tears. We share our thoughts on setting personal social media boundaries and discuss the pain of knowing everything happening in the world - there's a reason God is all-knowing and we're not! Rounding out our discussion we finish this episode with our thoughts on navigating social media as Christians and (myself personally) as a Christian content creator.

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0:00 - Coming up
0:44 - Intro
0:58 - About this episode
4:47 - Breaking down 'Be still and know that I am God'
6:20 - Making space to be still
8:44 - Jesus didn't take the Torah with Him when He went away to pray
10:20 - We don't know how to sit with ourselves and with God
11:00 - Ministry in tears
11:43 - Are you relaxing when you are on your phone?
12:50 - Can you hear the audible voice of God?
14:40 - Hearing God 'speak' through creation
15:50 - Self-imposed social media restrictions
18:39 - The overwhelming pain of knowing everything happening in the world
20:28 - "There's a reason why God is omniscient and omnipresent and not us"
22:29 - Even constant positive input can be too much 
25:40 - Navigating social media as a Christian and a Christian content creator
31:31 - Coming up next week

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In part 2 of our chat with Maria from Focus on the Family NZ we tackle the challenges parents face in the digital age, starting with the question of what to do when your child wants a phone. We discuss setting boundaries for children's device use and the impact of affordable technology leading to even toddlers having their own devices.

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0:00 - Coming up 
0:47 - What do you do when your child wants a phone?
3:08 - Boundaries for children's devices
4:30 - The affordability of devices has led to toddlers having devices
5:30 - The loss of landline phones
7:04 - Boredom is important
8:25 - The value of being still
10:19 - Advice for parents struggling to get kids off devices or social media
15:58 - TV is better for you than devices
16:40 - The negative side-effects of device use for children
18:00 - Instead of a device try this for your children
20:15 - A great resource 'Good Pictures Bad Pictures'
22:25 - If you're not sure if Brio Magazine is for your daughter
26:13 - Maria's testimony
31:20 - How is Maria living her faith outside of Sunday
35:45 - Next week

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In this episode, we introduce Maria Boddington from Focus on the Family and delve into her journey and insights. We start by learning about Maria's background before moving on to discuss Brio Magazine, a beautiful Christian magazine created to encourage and uplift young girls. 

Maria shares her personal experience with parenting in the digital age, specifically managing her children's use of social media. She provides advice on teaching children critical thinking skills and we discuss the importance of being wise with social media. Maria emphasizes that while it's important not to be afraid of social media, being proactive is key. Join us for a light and informative conversation filled with practical tips and heartfelt wisdom.

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0:00 - Coming up
0:43 - Intro
1:10 - About Maria
4:27 - All about Brio Magazine
12:31 - The benefits of hardcopy over digital
14:41 - Maria's experience parenting her children's use of social media
21:00 - Advice on teaching critical thinking for children
26:35 - Why we need to be wise with social media
28:03 - Don't be afraid, but be proactive with social media

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In the final instalment of our chat with Jenny Chapman, we dive deep into the complex and often controversial issues surrounding abortion. Jenny addresses the stigma of adoption, she challenges the 'clump of cells' argument and Jenny discusses her involvement with Voice for Life.

Jenny highlights the only place in New Zealand where abortion rates are declining and recounts her experiences standing outside her local Hospital with signs advocating for life.

The episode concludes with a discussion on the intrinsic link between being Pro-Life and Christian and Jenny reflects on her own faith journey.

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0:00 - Previously 
0:38 - Welcome 
0:53 - It's more shameful to give your child up for adoption than to abort it 
1:54 - The 'clump of cells' pro-abortion argument doesn't hold up
2:25 - Miscarriage and abortion 
3:06 - Hospital avoiding giving stats on abortion
3:44 - Ultrasound destroys the 'clump of cells' argument
4:41 - Voice for Life
5:00 - How do you feel about abortive mothers?
8:16 - Abortion coercion
10:30 - 1 in 5 pregnancies in New Zealand end in abortion
11:15 - The only place in New Zealand where abortion numbers are going down
11:43 - You will lose friends when you are in Pro-Life advocacy
12:20 - Being accountable only to God
12:36 - A medical fact that makes people angry
13:26 - Standing outside the Hospital with signs advocating for life
14:28 - Highlights of Jenny's Pro-Life work
15:14 - Helping a young homeless Mum to choose life
16:11 - Pro-Life is showing women they are capable of being a good Mum and supporting that Mum 
16:22 - Many successful people are born into poverty
17:18 - The gifts that people born with a disability can bring to the world
18:18 - Being Pro-Life and Christian go hand in hand
19:20 - 19-year-old pregnant from r*pe, kept baby
23:26 - Jenny shares about her faith journey
30:42 - Coming up next week

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In part 2 of our conversation with Jenny Chapman, we continue exploring her young daughter Tara's courageous battle with brain cancer. Starting with a re-telling of their shared vision of Heaven, we hear about Tara's miraculous recovery and the challenges she faced as her health and speech deteriorated before her passing.

Jenny shares how she drew courage from Tara's example, emphasizing that we don't get to decide what miracles look like, and how, despite our faith in God, suffering is an unavoidable part of life.

The conversation then shifts to Jenny's involvement in the New Zealand Pro-Life movement. She highlights the role of Pro-Life advocacy in protecting the elderly, disabled and terminally ill, and discusses the importance of a culture and community that values life.

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0:00 - Previously
0:32 - Intro
0:47 - A vision of Heaven
3:25 - Tara's condition and miraculous recovery
6:00 - The use of sign language as speech deteriorated
8:09 - The final days before Tara's death from Brain Cancer
10:30 - The parallel of birth and death
11:08 - Drawing courage from Tara's example
11:30 - We don't get to decide what the miracle looks like
13:57 - Just because we love God doesn't mean to get to avoid suffering
15:45 - What stands out most to Jenny from Tara's illness
19:12 - Jenny's involvement in the New Zealand Pro-Life movement
21:09 - Pro-Life is anti-suic*de
22:23 - The Pro-Life role to protect the disabled and terminally ill
24:19 - Taking care of the sick, elderly and dying
26:20 - Thou shalt not kill
27:03 - Culture says abortion is ok in these circumstances
27:47 - Does r*pe make abortion ok?
28:44 - Does being born into poverty make abortion ok?
29:42 - It's very cost-effective for the New Zealand government to abort babies in poor families
30:34 - How little encouragement it takes for a woman to keep her baby
31:53 - Do mental health problems make abortion ok?
32:56 - Abortion is no longer shameful, adoption is shameful
33:22 - Coming up next week

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In the first part of our chat with Jenny Chapman, we delve into the heart-wrenching journey of her daughter Tara's battle with a terminal illness. Jenny opens up about the moment they realised something was wrong, the urgent push for a MRI scan, and the devastating diagnosis that changed their lives. She shares how Tara faced her condition with remarkable strength, the impact on their family, and how they navigated treatment at Starship Hospital. Jenny also discusses the profound ways their faith sustained them, offering advice for parents in similar situations and reflecting on the concept of suffering in the Christian walk. You don't want to miss this deeply moving conversation... keep the tissues handy.

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0:00 - Coming up 
1:04 - Intro
1:20 - Welcome & About Jenny Chapman
2:20 - About Tara
3:58 - Noticing that something wasn't right with Tara
5:05 - Pushing for an urgent MRI scan
6:00 - Realising it's bad news
6:19 - "Our whole world changed"
8:20 - She was terminal, but well
9:22 - The best thing parents can do when their child is diagnosed with a terminal disease
10:44 - Moving the family to Starship Hospital
11:30 - Treatment for Brain Cancer
13:08 - Did Tara understand the seriousness of her condition?
15:53 - She was never scared of dying
18:16 - Tara fires her therapist
19:04 - How did the other kids process Tara's illness?
22:43 - Should we hold on to the belongings of someone who has passed?
23:37 - How was your relationship with the Lord while you were dealing with Tara's illness?
27:00 - Understanding 'suffering' in the Christian walk
29:43 - Keeping a record of precious moments
30:56 - Miraculous recovery
31:38 - Coming up next week

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