Outside The Bachs with Kelly Riordan

By Kelly Riordan

We talk to musicians, artists, and creative entrepreneurs about their careers and the lessons they learned along their journey.

Hosted by Kelly Riordan, co-founder of OutsideTheBachs.com

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July 09, 2025 Run It Like A Business | Aubrey Bergauer & Kelly Riordan
In this episode, Kelly sits down with Aubrey Bergauer to explore what it really means to run a performing arts organization like a business, without sacrificing artistic integrity. Known for her transformational leadership at arts organizations, Aubrey shares data-driven strategies for growing audiences, generating new revenue, and improving retention.

They discuss the importance of the newcomer experience, how to turn first-timers into loyal supporters, and what hiring, auditions, and programming might look like for a more inclusive future. Pulling from Aubrey’s groundbreaking book Run It Like a Business, this conversation is a must-listen for anyone who wants to see the arts thrive.

More about Aubrey and her book Run It Like A Business Strategies for Arts Organizations to Increase Audiences, Remain Relevant, and Multiply Money--Without Losing the Art

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August 27, 2024 How do you win an orchestra audition? | Christopher Still & Kelly Riordan
In this episode, Kelly chats with Christopher Still, trumpet player with the Los Angeles Philharmonic and founder of Honesty Pill - a program that helps musicians win their next orchestra audition.
So how can you win an orchestra audition? How many auditions does it take? And how much does it all cost?

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August 06, 2024 Why You Shouldn’t Go to Music School | Kirsten Haddox & Kelly Riordan
In this episode, Kelly Riordan interviews Kirsten Haddox, a music major turned content creator and music marketer.
The discussion reveals the alarming disparity between the number of graduates and actual job placements, the lack of education on self-promotion and entrepreneurship, and the minimal job placement or salary transparency. They highlight the grueling schedules, the lack of job security in orchestra jobs, and the significant time and money investments with little long-term gain.
The conversation also tackles the elitism and toxic practice culture prevalent in music schools and the inequity faced by women in classical music. Discover what can be achieved outside traditional music education and why a music degree may not be worth it. Join us for an essential discussion on building a sustainable and fulfilling music career.

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June 13, 2024 Start Treating Your Private Music Lesson Studio Like A Business | Eric Branner & Kelly Riordan
In this episode, Eric shares his unique story of growing up playing rock and blues guitar, and eventually transitioning to classical music at the age of 18. Discover how his grandfather, a band director and classical pianist, influenced his early musical years, and how his passion for guitar led him to pursue music at the collegiate level and to eventually start fons.com a tool for music studio management.

Kelly and Eric share some insights on how you can start treating your private music lesson studio like a business, how to increase your lesson rate and how to stay organized when first starting out teaching lessons.

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April 15, 2024 Pivoting Gracefully in Ballet, Audio and Life | Austenne Grey & Kelly Riordan
In this podcast episode, Kelly and Austenne Grey chat about Austenne’s life as a multi-passionate creative. Austenne talks about her work doing audio narration for audiobooks, shares her experiences in musical theatre and ballet, including facing adversity and how to stay positive and open to new opportunities. She explains how challenges helped her grow and learn to pivot in her career.

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February 15, 2024 Creating Opportunities in Music and Marketing | Michael Fenoglio & Kelly Riordan
In this episode, Kelly chats with Michael Fenoglio - Director of Marketing at DANSR, Inc - the exclusive importer of Vandoren products in the US. Michael is a saxophonist and music educator, and at DANSR, he is responsible for planning, implementation, and oversight of a variety of marketing initiatives including artist relations, educational outreach, digital marketing, tradeshows and more.
He holds a Doctor of Musical Arts Degree in Jazz Saxophone Performance from University of Illinois, where he served as the jazz and classical teaching assistant under professors Chip McNeil and Debra Richtmeyer. In 2013, Fenoglio was the recipient of two Graduate Student Downbeat Awards in recognition of his jazz solo and ensemble performances.
Fenoglio continues to be an active musician and educator outside his work at DANSR. He has performed with a variety of renowned artists over the years including The Doc Severinsen Big Band, Ira Sullivan, Phil Woods, and The Temptations. His most recent recording projects include his band’s self-titled album, “The Old Style Sextet,” on Chicago’s BluJazz record label and side work on guitarist Chris Beyt’s “120" and Derrick Cordoba’s “J&J.”

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December 14, 2023 Opening Doors to Music Careers | Natalie Morrison & Kelly Riordan
Kelly sits down with Natalie Morrison and chats about how networking can impact your career path within the music industry.
Natalie is currently the Senior Segment Marketing Specialist for Education at the Yamaha Corporation of America. Most notably, Natalie brings projects with purpose to life, and is the Co-Founder and Co-Producer of ReVoicing the Future, a Women of NAMM podcast. She is also serving on the NAMM Young Professionals Board of Directors. When not working, you can find her bustling around New York City at a record store, coffee shop, yoga class, concert, or Broadway show.
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November 16, 2023 Future of Music Education | Sam Reti & Kelly Riordan
⁠In this episode, Kelly chats about the future of music education technology with Sam Reti of Muzie.Live a music education platform for teachers and students. Teachers can host high-quality lessons, interact with students in real-time, and access a range of tools to support student engagement and productivity.
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September 21, 2023 ReVoicing the Future | Julia Olsen & Kelly Riordan
Julia Olsen is a Singer/ Songwriter, Composer, Producer, Live, Mix, Recording and Mastering Engineer. Her degrees are in Music Production and Recording Engineering with emphasis in Music Business and Performance. She has learned over the years the importance of hybrid skills allowing her to move between industry roles and apply the knowledge from one role to the next. Julia has worked with notable artists such as NBC The Voice and American Idol Star Jeremy Rosado as the In-Studio Vocal Producer and a Recording Engineer for his past album You, along with the Mix Engineer for his track “Better off as Friends”
She also works as the Podcast Editor and Co-Producer for the National Association of Music Merchants (NAMM) Podcast “ReVoicing the Future”. Julia is working on new original music that will be released soon.
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September 13, 2023 Duet Partner | Neylan McBaine & Kelly Riordan
Neylan McBaine is the CEO of Duet Partner, a digital studio management system for independent music teachers. As a marketer and community builder, Neylan previously worked in house at various Silicon Valley companies and advertising agencies. By leading Duet Partner, she is returning to her musical roots as a Juilliard- and Yale-trained pianist and the daughter of a Metropolitan Opera soloist. The music teachers in her life and the lives of her children have been her heroes, and she is delighted to use her skills to support them as they run their small businesses.

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