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In this episode of Pacific Swings, David MacKinnon reunites with his 2023 Seibu Lions teammate Mark Payton for a conversation that goes beyond the box scores—diving into injuries, Japanese baseball culture, and the reality of playing in NPB when everything goes wrong.
Mark Payton was drafted by the Yankees in 2013 and made his MLB debut with Oakland in 2020. In 2023, he signed with the Seibu Lions alongside David, becoming instant teammates and the only English-speaking position players on the roster. But their season together didn't go as planned—Mark faced a series of devastating injuries that turned his year into a test of mental toughness and perseverance.
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From being carried off on a stretcher to discovering the best BBQ in Tokyo during rehab, from dealing with injuries to battling through turf-field pain with icy hot and tape, Mark's story is about resilience, adaptation, and the bond between teammates who lean on each other when everything falls apart.
This is the Lions Reunion Episode - two Americans who lived the same experience but had completely different years.
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Hosts: Jasper Spanjaart & David MacKinnon
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#PacificSwings #MarkPayton #SeibuLions #DavidMacKinnon #NPB #JapaneseBaseball #BaseballPodcast #西武ライオンズ #プロ野球
🇯🇵 日本語: エピソードタイトル: ライオンズ:再会エピソード
2023年、西武ライオンズで共に戦ったマーク・ペイトンとデビッド・マキノンが再会。怪我、日本の野球文化、そしてNPBでプレーする現実について語ります。
主要トピック:
キーワード: マーク・ペイトン、西武ライオンズ、デビッド・マキノン、怪我、リハビリ、記者会見、山下舜平大、源田壮亮
🇰🇷 한국어: 에피소드 제목: 라이온즈: 재회 에피소드
2023년 세이부 라이온즈에서 함께 뛴 마크 페이튼과 데이비드 매키넌이 재회. 부상, 일본 야구 문화, NPB에서 플레이하는 현실에 대해 이야기합니다.
주요 주제:
키워드: 마크 페이튼, 세이부 라이온즈, 데이비드 매키넌, 부상, 재활, 야마시타 슌페이타, 겐다 소스케
In Part 2 of Pacific Swings, David MacKinnon and Jasper Spanjaart continue their conversation with Gosuke Katoh, diving into the mental strategies and development philosophies that shaped his unique career path.
After 10 years grinding through six different MLB organizations, Gosuke finally reached the majors with Toronto before setting NPB rookie records with the Hokkaido Nippon-Ham Fighters. Now at 30, he's bringing that experience to the Blue Jays front office, evaluating players with a perspective few scouts can match.
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"The first couple years were the hardest. I was miserable every day in rookie ball. But you just gotta keep going. Me and Mac have the same trajectory - in the end, you just gotta keep going."
From the pressure of being an 18-year-old second-round pick to scouting for a top-5 payroll MLB team, Gosuke's journey shows that persistence and adaptation create opportunities talent alone never could.
Gosuke Katoh is a baseball operations assistant for the Toronto Blue Jays, former utility infielder for the Hokkaido Nippon-Ham Fighters, and the first player in baseball history to be drafted by both MLB and NPB.
🇯🇵 日本語: エピソードタイトル: ネバー・ギビング・アップ 加藤豪将(後編)
パート2では、加藤豪将の独特なキャリアパスを形作ったメンタル戦略と育成哲学を深掘りします。
主要トピック:
「最初の数年が一番辛かった。ルーキーボールで毎日惨めだった。でも続けるしかない。俺とマックは同じ軌跡をたどった - 結局、続けるしかないんだ」
Season Number: 1 Episode Number: 15 Part 2 加藤豪将インタビュー 後編
キーワード: 加藤豪将、選手育成、メンタルゲーム、イチロー、清宮幸太郎、トロント・ブルージェイズ、日本ハムファイターズ
In this first-part of a two-part episode of Pacific Swings, David MacKinnon and Jasper Spanjaart sit down with Gosuke Katoh, the first player in baseball history to be drafted by both MLB and NPB, who just retired at 30 to join the Toronto Blue Jays front office.
Drafted 66th overall by the New York Yankees in 2013 as an 18-year-old, Gosuke spent a decade grinding through six different organizations in the minor leagues. Then many years later, he woke up at 3am in California to discover he'd made history - the Hokkaido Nippon-Ham Fighters had drafted him in Japan, making him the first player ever selected by both leagues.
After finally reaching the majors with Toronto, Gosuke headed to Japan where he set an NPB rookie record with 10 consecutive games with a hit to start his career. Now he's bringing that unique perspective to the Blue Jays front office, scouting and evaluating players while watching the game from an entirely new angle.
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From Yankees farmhand to historic draft pick to Japan Series contender to MLB front office - Gosuke's journey proves that persistence and adaptation can take you places you never imagined.
Gosuke Katoh is a baseball operations assistant for the Toronto Blue Jays, former utility infielder for the Hokkaido Nippon-Ham Fighters, and the first player in baseball history to be drafted by both MLB and NPB.
🇯🇵 日本語: エピソードタイトル: ネバー・ギビング・アップ 加藤豪将(前編)
史上初のMLB・NPB両ドラフト指名選手、加藤豪将が登場!2013年ヤンキース2巡目指名から10年間のマイナーリーグ生活、2016年日本ハムファイターズからの指名、そして30歳でブルージェイズのフロントオフィスへ転身するまでの軌跡を語ります。
主要トピック:
Season Number: 1 Episode Number: 15 Part 1 加藤豪将インタビュー
キーワード: 加藤豪将、日本ハムファイターズ、トロント・ブルージェイズ、ドラフト、新庄剛志、イチロー
🇰🇷 한국어: 에피소드 제목: 네버 기빙 업 가토 히데마사 (1부)
역사상 최초로 MLB와 NPB 양쪽에서 드래프트된 선수 가토 히데마사가 출연! 2013년 양키스 2라운드 지명부터 10년간의 마이너리그 생활, 2016년 홋카이도 닛폰햄 파이터즈 지명, 그리고 30세에 블루제이스 프런트오피스로 전향하기까지의 궤적을 들려줍니다.
주요 주제:
Season Number: 1 Episode Number: 15 Part 1 가토 히데마사 인터뷰
키워드: 가토 히데마사, 홋카이도 닛폰햄 파이터즈, 토론토 블루제이스, 드래프트, 신죠 타케시, 이치로
In this episode of Pacific Swings, David MacKinnon and Jasper Spanjaart sit down with Anthony Kay, the Yokohama DeNA BayStars left-hander who went from first-round draft pick heartbreak to Japan Series champion in one of baseball's most inspiring turnaround stories.
Drafted 31st overall by his hometown New York Mets in 2016, Anthony's dream quickly turned into a nightmare when he needed Tommy John surgery immediately after signing. Fast-forward to 2024, and he's throwing six hitless innings in the playoffs and celebrating Japan's ultimate prize with the BayStars.
Anthony opens up about the mental challenge of that year-plus rehab, why he's become a "completely different pitcher" in Japan, and how Trevor Bauer has helped refine his approach. From learning a devastating two-seam fastball to keep Japanese hitters honest, to understanding why throwing 500 batting practice swings daily is just normal in Japanese spring training.
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From Wareham Gatemen teammates to crossing paths again on Pacific Swings - Anthony proves that sometimes baseball takes you exactly where you need to be, even if it's 7,000 miles from where you started.
Anthony Kay is the left-handed pitcher for the Yokohama DeNA BayStars, 2024 Japan Series champion, and former first-round draft pick of the New York Mets who has found his home and success in Japanese baseball.
🇯🇵 日本語: エピソードタイトル: アンソニー・ケイ:トミージョン手術から日本シリーズ優勝まで
横浜DeNAベイスターズの左腕アンソニー・ケイが登場!2016年メッツ1巡目指名直後のトミージョン手術から2024年日本シリーズ制覇まで、野球人生の波乱万丈な軌跡を語ります。
主要トピック:
Season Number: 1 Episode Number: 14 Anthony Kay Interview キーワード: アンソニー・ケイ、横浜DeNAベイスターズ、日本シリーズ、トミージョン手術、トレバー・バウアー
🇰🇷 한국어: 에피소드 제목: 앤서니 케이: 토미 존 수술에서 일본시리즈 우승까지
요코하마 DeNA 베이스타즈의 좌완 앤서니 케이가 출연! 2016년 메츠 1라운드 지명 직후 토미 존 수술부터 2024년 일본시리즈 제패까지, 파란만장한 야구 인생을 들려줍니다.
주요 주제:
Season Number: 1 Episode Number: 14 앤서니 케이 인터뷰 키워드: 앤서니 케이, 요코하마 DeNA 베이스타즈, 일본시리즈, 토미 존 수술, 트레버 바우어
In this episode of Pacific Swings, David MacKinnon and Jasper Spanjaart sit down with Tyler Nevin, the Seibu Lions first baseman who's transformed from MLB organizational depth to becoming one of NPB's most consistent hitters and a legitimate batting title candidate. Tyler's having the season Lions fans have been dreaming about since 2023, opening up about why choosing Japan over grinding in Triple-A was the best decision he ever made.
Fresh off becoming the first player to 100 hits in the Pacific League and winning MVP honors for May, Tyler explains how he escaped MLB "survival mode" where you're just trying to get hits to avoid getting optioned the next day. Instead of worrying about his next paycheck, he's actually been able to develop as a player for the first time since Double-A ball.
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Tyler Nevin is the first baseman for the Seibu Lions, the first player to 100 hits in the 2025 Pacific League season, May MVP winner, and holder of a rare mid-season extension after proving essential to the organization.
🇯🇵 日本語: エピソードタイトル: タイラー・ネビン:MLBサバイバルモードから西武ライオンズ成功への道
西武ライオンズのタイラー・ネビン選手が初登場!MLB組織の底辺からNPB最高の打者の一人へ、そして正当な首位打者候補になるまでの軌跡。日本選択がトリプルAでの苦闘より最良の決断だった理由を語ります。
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Season Number: 1 Episode Number: 13 Tyler Nevin Interview キーワード: タイラー・ネビン、西武ライオンズ、NPB、首位打者争い、一塁手、フィル・ネビン
🇰🇷 한국어: 에피소드 제목: 타일러 네빈: MLB 서바이벌 모드에서 세이부 라이온즈 성공까지
세이부 라이온즈의 타일러 네빈이 첫 출연! MLB 조직 하부에서 NPB 최고의 타자 중 한 명이 되어 정당한 타율왕 후보가 되기까지의 여정. 트리플 A에서의 고군분투보다 일본 선택이 최선의 결정이었던 이유를 들려줍니다.
주요 주제:
Season Number: 1 Episode Number: 13 타일러 네빈 인터뷰 키워드: 타일러 네빈, 세이부 라이온즈, NPB, 타율왕 경쟁, 1루수, 필 네빈
Dave fired his translator app, paid to ride trains with his own face on them, and somehow convinced us he's funnier than the average Joe. Meanwhile, Jasper's threatening to sell Dave's signed NPB card for five bucks and we're introducing "Cartoon Dave" - complete with progressive beatdowns every episode.
In this episode of Pacific Swings Q&A #2, we tackle your burning questions about Asian baseball. From heated debates about whether Samurai Japan could win the WBC without their MLB superstars to Dave's embarrassing encounters with 19-year-old Korean robot umpires (yes, really), this mailbag episode has it all.
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Dave also reveals he was never "gifted with a swing" like Mike Trout, explains why he timed himself up for 85 mph splitters against Japanese pitchers, and shares his master plan for live shows in Japan and Korea. Plus: Dustin Pedroia losing his mind in the most relatable post-game interview ever.
🇯🇵 日本語: エピソードタイトル: 太平洋スウィングス Q&A #2: NPB対KBO、MLB抜きの侍ジャパン、デイブの野球カード
デイブの翻訳アプリが解雇され、自分の顔が載った電車に運賃を払い、平均的な人より面白いと自分を納得させた第2回Q&Aエピソード。NPBとKBOの実力差、大谷・山本・佐々木なしの侍ジャパンのWBC優勝可能性、若手西武選手、日本の球場体験などファンの質問に答えます。
主要トピック: NPB対KBO実力比較、MLB抜き侍ジャパン論争、注目若手選手、日本球場体験、各国審判比較、NPB野球カード、メディア関係
シーズン番号: 1 エピソード番号: Q&A #2 キーワード: Q&A、NPB、KBO、侍ジャパン、WBC、野球カード、審判、球場体験
🇰🇷 한국어: 에피소드 제목: 태평양 스윙스 Q&A #2: NPB vs KBO, MLB 없는 사무라이 재팬, 데이브의 야구카드
데이브의 번역앱이 해고되고, 자신의 얼굴이 붙은 전철에 요금을 내며, 평균적인 사람보다 재미있다고 스스로를 설득한 두 번째 Q&A 에피소드. NPB와 KBO의 실력차, 오타니·야마모토·사사키 없는 사무라이 재팬의 WBC 우승 가능성, 젊은 세이부 선수들, 일본 구장 경험 등 팬들의 질문에 답합니다.
주요 주제: NPB vs KBO 실력 비교, MLB 없는 사무라이 재팬 논쟁, 주목할 젊은 선수들, 일본 구장 경험, 각국 심판 비교, NPB 야구카드, 미디어 관계
시즌 번호: 1 에피소드 번호: Q&A #2 키워드: Q&A, NPB, KBO, 사무라이재팬, WBC, 야구카드, 심판, 구장경험
#PacificSwings #QandA #NPBvsKBO #SamuraiJapan #WBC #BaseballCards #NPB #KBO #JapaneseBaseball #KoreanBaseball #SeibuLions #UmpireComparison #StadiumExperience #YoungProspects #BaseballPodcast #AsianBaseball #ProfessionalBaseball #BaseballCulture #MLBvsNPB #BaseballMedia #SocialMedia #BaseballFans #태평양스윙스 #야구 #프로야구 #사무라이재팬 #세이부라이온즈 #太平洋スウィングス #野球 #プロ野球 #侍ジャパン #西武ライオンズ
In this episode of Pacific Swings, David and Jasper talk with Casey Kelly, the man who truly mastered the Pacific swing. After five and a half years with the LG Twins, Casey became Korean baseball royalty - earning the nickname "Jamsil Jesus" and helping end the team's 29-year championship drought in 2023.
From nearly walking away from baseball to becoming a Korean legend, Casey opens up about his transformative journey that took him from reluctant Korea signing to beloved superstar who brought a championship to Seoul.
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Casey also breaks down the differences between Korean and Japanese baseball, shares stories about becoming Korean celebrities, and explains why David MacKinnon's release from Samsung still doesn't make sense.
Whether you're curious about international baseball culture or want to understand what it takes to become a legend in a foreign country, this episode delivers authentic insights from someone who lived the dream.
Casey Kelly is a former MLB pitcher who became a Korean baseball legend with the LG Twins, earning the nickname "Jamsil Jesus" while helping end their 29-year championship drought in 2023.
🇰🇷 한국어: 에피소드 제목: 케이시 켈리가 어떻게 '잠실 예수'가 되어 29년 만의 우승 가뭄을 끝냈는가
에피소드 노트: LG 트윈스에서 5년 반을 보낸 케이시 켈리가 한국 야구의 로열티가 되어 '잠실 예수'라는 별명을 얻고 2023년 팀의 29년 만의 우승 가뭄을 끝내는 데 도움을 준 이야기를 들려줍니다.
주요 주제:
Season Number: 1 Episode Number: 11 키워드: 케이시 켈리, LG 트윈스, KBO, 잠실 예수, 한국시리즈, 우승, 한국 야구
In this episode of Pacific Swings, David and Jasper talk with Kaima Taira (平良海馬), the Seibu Lions ace closer who has dominated Japanese baseball with a legendary 1.88 career ERA across seven NPB seasons. For the first time ever, Kaima Taira speaks in English!
From his devastating slide step that makes elite hitters look foolish to his ambitious quest to throw 170 km/h (105 MPH), Taira opens up about his journey from a tiny 6-player junior high school team in Okinawa to becoming one of the most feared closers in Japanese baseball.
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Whether you're fascinated by elite pitching mechanics or want to understand what separates NPB's best closers from the rest, this episode delivers rare insights from someone operating at the absolute pinnacle of Japanese baseball.
Kaima Taira is the ace pitcher for the Seibu Lions with a career 1.88 ERA across seven NPB seasons, known for his devastating slide step and 100+ MPH fastball while pursuing his goal of throwing 170 km/h.
🇯🇵 日本語: エピソードタイトル: 日本の100マイル・クローザーが打てないスライドステップの秘密を明かす
エピソードノート: 西武ライオンズのエース・クローザー平良海馬が、NPB通算防御率1.88という伝説的な成績を誇る投手として、沖縄の6人制高校チームから日本最恐のクローザーまでの軌跡を語ります。
主要トピック:
Season Number: 1 Episode Number: 10 キーワード: 平良海馬、西武ライオンズ、NPB、クローザー、スライドステップ、100マイル
🇰🇷 한국어: 에피소드 제목: 일본의 100마일 마무리 투수가 치기 어려운 슬라이드 스텝의 비밀을 공개
에피소드 노트: 세이부 라이온즈의 에이스 마무리 투수 타이라 카이마가 NPB 통산 평균자책점 1.88이라는 전설적 성적을 자랑하는 투수로서, 오키나와의 6인제 고교팀에서 일본 최강의 마무리 투수까지의 궤적을 들려줍니다.
주요 주제:
Season Number: 1 Episode Number: 10 키워드: 타이라 카이마, 세이부 라이온즈, NPB, 마무리 투수, 슬라이드 스텝, 100마일
In this special episode of Pacific Swings, David MacKinnon addresses his viral tweet about NPB ties that sparked outrage across Japanese baseball Twitter with 1.4 million impressions. Now he's officially launching his campaign to become NPB Commissioner with a platform built on controversy and questionable logic.
"Most home runs wins. That's it."
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David doubles down on his controversial stance while Jasper tries to rein in the chaos. From abolishing ties to implementing home run contests, Commissioner MacKinnon's platform is equal parts revolutionary and ridiculous. Whether you love him or think he's completely lost it, one thing is certain: Japanese baseball will never be the same.
David MacKinnon played professional baseball in MLB, NPB (Seibu Lions), and KBO before retiring to become a controversial voice for baseball reform and self-appointed NPB Commissioner candidate.
🇯🇵 日本語: エピソードタイトル: マキノンNPBコミッショナー候補:引き分け撲滅宣言 エピソードノート: デビッド・マキノンのNPB引き分けに関する物議を醸したツイートが140万インプレッションを記録し、日本野球界を騒然とさせる。彼が提案するNPB改革案とコミッショナー就任への野望を語る。
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🇰🇷 한국어: 에피소드 제목: 맥키넌 NPB 커미셔너 후보: 무승부 폐지 선언 에피소드 노트: 데이빗 맥키넌의 NPB 무승부 관련 논란의 트윗이 140만 노출수를 기록하며 일본 야구계를 발칵 뒤집어놓았다. 그가 제안하는 NPB 개혁안과 커미셔너 취임 야망을 들어본다.
주요 주제:
Season Number: 1 Episode Number: 9
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In this episode of Pacific Swings, David and Jasper talk with Trey Cabbage, the Tennessee slugger who went from breaking exit velocity records in the minors to demolishing baseballs at the Tokyo Dome for the Yomiuri Giants. From 487-foot home runs to 121.1 mph exit velocity, Cabbage opens up about the mental and technical adjustments needed to succeed in NPB.
"My job is to barrel the baseball and do some damage"
Key Topics Covered:
Cabbage gets candid about the mental side of international baseball, from dealing with information overload in scouting meetings to the discipline required when preparation routines change. He breaks down why NPB pitchers attack foreign hitters differently, explains the humidity's effect on ball flight, and shares what it's like being married to baseball in the world's biggest city.
Trey Cabbage was drafted by the Minnesota Twins and played in MLB with the Los Angeles Angels and Houston Astros before joining the Yomiuri Giants in NPB, where he's become known for his mammoth home runs and 121.1 mph exit velocity record.
🇯🇵 日本語: エピソードタイトル: 巨人のパワー:トレイ・キャベッジが語る487フィート弾、NPB適応、東京生活 エピソードノート: 2024年読売ジャイアンツのトレイ・キャベッジが、マイナーリーグでの記録破りから東京ドームでの活躍まで、NPBでの技術的・精神的調整について語ります。487フィート本塁打と121.1マイル/時の打球速度記録保持者が、日本野球への適応と東京での生活を率直に語る。 主要トピック: 487フィート本塁打でマイナーリーグ記録更新 121.1mph打球速度記録(3週間保持) NPB投手の技術的違い:球速差対パワー 精神的準備の調整:恐れから自信へ 文化的適応:教科書的日本語対スラング ファン文化:MLB5人対NPB50人のメディア対応 巨人チームメイトとの関係:長野、坂本らとの交流 Season Number: 1 Episode Number: 8
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Pacific Swings brings you exclusive interviews and insider stories from players who’ve crossed the Pacific Ocean. Hosted by former MLB, NPB & KBO player David MacKinnon and…
David MacKinnon (1994) played professional baseball for nearly a decade, competing in Major League Baseball (MLB), Nippon Professional Baseball (NPB), and the Korean Baseball Organization (KBO).
Jasper Spanjaart (1995) is an established journalist and documentary filmmaker specializing in sports and cultural storytelling. His work focuses on the intersection of athletics and international culture.
Together, they host Pacific Swings, a podcast dedicated to exploring the cultural and athletic connections between American, Japanese, and Korean professional baseball. Through exclusive interviews and insider perspectives, the show bridges baseball’s two worlds, offering listeners unique insights into the global game.
Two worlds, one podcast, countless stories.
ありがとう, 감사합니다, and welcome to Pacific Swings.