In this episode, the hosts delve into the complexities of the characters in 'Dead House Gates', particularly focusing on Felisin's struggles with addiction and survival. They explore the intricacies of character relationships, the implications of rituals, and the mysteries surrounding the Path of Hands, culminating in a humorous discussion about Fiddler's horse as an unexpected hero. In this conversation, the participants delve into the themes of violence, uprisings, and the nature of humanity as depicted in the Malazan series. They explore the moral complexities of supporting uprisings against oppressive forces while grappling with the violence that often accompanies such actions. The discussion also touches on the savagery inherent in human nature, the role of prophecy, and the perceptions of age and maturity among characters, particularly Fiddler and Crokus. The participants delve into various themes from the Malazan series, focusing on character development, narrative techniques, and overarching themes such as pragmatism and identity. 

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