Pages and Prejudice

Pages and Prejudice

By Adrie Rose, StitchArtsBooks
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Pages and Prejudice episodes

  • E70: Manic Pixie Goth GF - the Commodification of Alt Girls in Media

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    Hosted by:

    Adrie Rose (@adrierising on bsky, twitter, instagram, & tiktok)

    Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)


    Guests:

    Another Bad Salad (@anotherbadsald on tiktok and youtube) aka the Bob’s Burger’s lady


    It’s not a phase mom, this is who I am!


    Adrie and guest Holly (anotherbadsalad) dig into the "manic pixie goth girl" — the pop culture archetype of the politically-charged, aesthetically-consumed goth girl in teen and animated media, and why her actual beliefs almost always get tossed aside in favor of her look. From Ally Sheedy's makeover in The Breakfast Club to Jane Lane vs. Daria, Marceline's emotional labor in Adventure Time, Debbie Hyman in American Dad, the Hex Girls, and the underrated Wendell & Wild — they trace how goth girls get fetishized, disposed, tied to trauma, and rarely allowed to just be. Plus: the racialization of goth aesthetics, the goth-to-supernatural pipeline, and why the Catholic Church is actually very goth.


    Topics: goth girl trope, manic pixie dream girl, media criticism, animated media, fetishization, teen media, Daria, Danny Phantom, Teen Titans, American Dad, Wendell & Wild, fandom, representation, goth aesthetics



    Reading Recommendations:


    Fiction:

    • The Vampire Kisses series by Ellen Schreiber
    • Leech by Hiron Ennes


    Television:

    • Chilling Adventures of Sabrina
    • MTV’s Downtown
    • O’Grady


    Film:

    • The Craft
    • Forbidden Fruits


    Past Episodes:

    • E45: Once You Go Alien
    • E49: A Thin Line Between Love & Hate
    • E54: Gay Twitches! Gay Twitches!


    Music: ⁠⁠HOLY MOLY⁠⁠ by Shane Ivers

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    1 hr 4 min
  • E69: Leave Room for My God Complex - Kink Panic and the New Puriteens

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    Hosted by:

    Adrie Rose (@adrierising on bsky, twitter, instagram, & tiktok)

    Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)


    Leave room for Jesus, but it’s a 20 year old virgin on tiktok.


    Adrie and Stitch dig into how purity culture is making a comeback — not just from the religious right, but from within progressive fandom and online spaces — and why the result looks eerily similar from both ends of the political spectrum. They explore the "SVU-ification" of media, the rise of kink-shaming in fandom, why nuance is dead on the internet, and how algorithm-driven outrage is producing a generation that can't sit with discomfort — let alone articulate it. From discourse about problematic romance fiction and RPF, to the harassment of actors for being straight, to the hot takes on God of War's Begtse, this episode asks: are we actually protecting anyone, or are we just doing purity culture from the left?


    Topics: purity culture, fandom discourse, kink-shaming, consent language, SVU, romance fiction, RPF, problematic faves, fanfic, AO3, Heated Rivalry, and more.


    Reading Recommendations:


    Fiction:


    • The Planet of Kings series by Lee Savino and Tabitha Black
    • The Alpha Horde series by Milana Jacks
    • Cold Sweat by Vera Valentine
    • basically anything by Loki Reynard
    • Maneater
    • Royal Reincarnation
    • The Mating of Elves
    • Holesome Romance 


    Music: ⁠⁠HOLY MOLY⁠⁠ by Shane Ivers

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    1 hr 29 min
  • E68: Graphic Romance - Hot Girls Read Webtoons Too

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    Hosted by:

    Adrie Rose (@adrierising on bsky, twitter, instagram, & tiktok)

    Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)


    And what if I said erotica is a social good?


    From ukiyo-e erotica and Tijuana Bibles to webtoons and Kickstarter comics, Stitch and Adrie trace the surprisingly rich history of graphic romance. They cover the rise and fall of 1950s romance comics, the Comics Code's self-inflicted wounds, the erasure of Black and queer stories, and how manga, indie publishers, and the internet finally gave readers the romantic and erotic comics they actually wanted.


    Topics: romance comics history, Comics Code Authority, Fredric Wertham, manga and shojo, graphic novels, webtoons, queer comics, Jackie Ormes, Women in Refrigerators, Kickstarter adult comics


    Reading Recommendations:


    Fiction:

    • IDW’s Weird Love Romance Comic Anthologies from 2014
    • Break Protocols by Sarybomb
    • Artificial Love by Maria Llovet
    • The Mafia Nanny
    • Lore Olympus by Rachel Smythe
    • Smut Peddler Presents: My Monster Boyfriend
    • Sunstone by Stjepan Šejić 
    • Starfighter by hamletmachine
    • Lucifer’s Garden by hamletmachine
    • Super Fun Sexy Times by Meredith McClaren
    • Vampire Knight by Matsuri Hino
    • Ouran High School Host Club by Bisco Hatori


    Non-Fiction:

    • Comic Book Women: Characters, Creators, and Culture in the Golden Age by Peyton Brunet and Blair Davis with an introduction by Trina Robbins
    • Love on the Racks: A History of American Romance Comics by Michelle Nolan
    • Sequential Crush
    • Race and Romance from Love Between the Covers


    Podcasts:

    • Service95 Book Club hosted by Dua Lipa
    • The Great Comic Book Scare | History This Week


    Music: ⁠⁠HOLY MOLY⁠⁠ by Shane Ivers

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    1 hr 17 min
  • E67: Kill Your Alpha Holes - The Rise of the Dark Romance Antihero

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    Hosted by:

    Adrie Rose (@adrierising on bsky, twitter, instagram, & tiktok)

    Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)


    Guests:

    Ella Dawson (@brosandprose on bsky and instagram) is an NYC-based sex and culture critic and the author of But How Are You, Really, a romance novel about college reunions and millennial angst. She is also the host of the Rebel Ever After podcast about progressive romance novels.


    If I’m going to suffer at the hands of a man, I would at least like a little narrative consistency.


    Hosts Adrie and Stitch explore the history of the romance hero — from bodice-ripping pirates to soft cinnamon rolls — and why the sociopath anti-hero is making a loud, alarming comeback. Then they sit down with Ella Dawson (Rebel Ever After podcast, But How Are You Really?) to talk about why readers are drawn to these narratives, what the rise of dark romance says about hetero pessimism and the modern dating landscape, the genre collapse between erotica and romance, and why asking "why do you like what you like?" shouldn't be a threat.


    Topics: dark romance, alpha heroes, romance tropes, genre criticism, consent in fiction, BookTok, feminist theory


    Reading Recommendations:


    Fiction:

    • The Songs of Submission series by CD Reiss
    • The Right to Bear Arms by Vivienne Savage
    • To Conquer a Highlander by Mary Wine
    • The Fever series by Karen Marie Moning
    • Devoured: The Serpent and the Pomegranate by Eunren and Gamjajeon
    • One Night Only by seowoo
    • Love is an Illusion: the Queen by Fargo
    • Steel Under Silk by snob
    • The Devil in Winter by Lisa Kleypas
    • Pot Shot by Laura Piper Lee
    • Willing Prey by Allie Oleander
    • Back for Seconds by Betty Corello


    Music: ⁠⁠HOLY MOLY⁠⁠ by Shane Ivers

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    1 hr 44 min
  • E66: Make Me Want You

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    Adrie Rose (@adrierising on bsky, twitter, instagram, & tiktok)

    Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)


    Unfortunately, romance wouldn’t sell as well if the FMCs blocked the MMC every time he was annoying.


    Reading Recommendations:

    Fiction:

    • Sensual Stress Relief by Pochitaro
    • The Villainess is being Pleasure Interrogated by a Steely Knight 
    • Tell Me When You're Full! By pokerou
    • I Got Isekai'd as a Succubus and Became the Familiar of a Super Sadistic Magician!
    • Faeling by SE Wendel 
    • Hunger in His Blood by Zoey Draven
    • Omega’s Gambit by Flora Quincy
    • The Georgina Kincaid series by Richelle Mead


    Non-Fiction:

    • The Great Big Anita Blake Reread: Approaching the Ardeur (An Explainer)


    Music: ⁠⁠HOLY MOLY⁠⁠ by Shane Ivers

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    1 hr 18 min
  • E65: That's My Emotional Support Cinnamon Roll

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    Hosted by:

    Adrie Rose (@adrierising on bsky, twitter, instagram, & tiktok)

    Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)


    The pandemic emotionally dysregulated me and all I got was this cozy romance novel.


    Reading Recommendations:


    Fiction:


    • The Brown Sisters trilogy by Talia Hibbert
    • Necking by Chris Salvatore
    • After this episode was published, we learned that Sylvie Stray uses or used generative AI for several of her works. We do not support or endorse the use of any technology which promotes theft or degradation of the arts. These notes have been edited to remove the recommendation of her work.
    • The Claws & Cubicle series by Kate Prior
    • Adults’ Picture Book by Kei Itoi
    • Hawk & March by Charlie Amen
    • Bless by Yukino Sonoyama


    Music: ⁠⁠HOLY MOLY⁠⁠ by Shane Ivers

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    1 hr 38 min
  • E64: What's Your Y/N?

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    Hosted by:

    Adrie Rose (@adrierising on bsky, twitter, instagram, & tiktok)

    Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)


    I accidentally made eye contact with Y/N and now HR is asking me to clean out my desk.


    Reading Recommendations:


    Fiction:

    • Love and Deepspace (yes, the entire mobile game)


    Non-Fiction:

    •  Fanlore’s page on the Mary Sue


    Music: ⁠⁠HOLY MOLY⁠⁠ by Shane Ivers

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    1 hr 22 min
  • E63: I Got a Pocket Full of Cheap Books

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    Hosted by:

    Adrie Rose (@adrierising on bsky, twitter, instagram, & tiktok)

    Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)


    Quit tellin' everyone I"m dead!


    Reading Recommendations:


    Fiction:

    • The Highlander series by Karen Marie Moning
    • The Love at Stake series by Kerrelyn Sparks
    • The Parasol Protectorate series by Gail Carriger
    • The Fallen Angels series by JR Ward
    • The Argeneau Vampires series by Lynsay Sands
    • The Psy/Changeling series by Nalini Singh
    • The Guildhunters series by Nalini Singh
    • Flowers in the Attic by V.C. Andrews
    • The Dark Hunter series by Sherrilyn Kenyon
    • Sweet Valley High by Francine Pascal


    Non-Fiction:

    • Mass Market Romance is Still Important, Ya’ll by Jessica Pryde | Book Riot
    • Print Book Sales Saw a Small Sales Increase in 2024 | Publisher’s Weekly
    • Mass Market Paperbacks are Dead by Daniel Greene | Youtube
    • How Mass-Market Paperbacks Rewrote Reading Culture by Retha Tep | History
    • Don’t Call Them Trash by Sophie Gilbert | The Atlantic
    • So Long to Cheap Books You Could Fit in Your Pockets by Elizabeth A. Harris | NYT


    Music: ⁠⁠HOLY MOLY⁠⁠ by Shane Ivers

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    1 hr 10 min
  • E62: Ship War of Theseus

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    Hosted by:

    Adrie Rose (@adrierising on bsky, twitter, instagram, & tiktok)

    Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)


    It is these damn phones.


    Music: ⁠⁠HOLY MOLY⁠⁠ by Shane Ivers

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    1 hr 10 min
  • E61: Monsters on My Mind

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    Hosted by:

    Adrie Rose (@adrierising on bsky, twitter, instagram, & tiktok)

    Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)


    Guests:

    Jeffrey Jerome Cohen is Dean of Humanities at Arizona State University and former co-president of the Association for the Study of Literature and the Environment, the largest professional organization in the environmental humanities. His research examines strange and beautiful things that challenge the imagination, phenomena that are alien and intimate at once.


    So, this is what it's like to have all your dreams come true.


    Reading Recommendations:


    Fiction:

    • Why Don’t You Eat Me, My Dear Wolf by Ao Koshikawa
    • Eat by Nagabe
    • The Great Snake’s Bride by Fushiashikumo
    • The Monsters in Like series by 0nlyamemory, VagabondsAndConventGirls (fan fiction)
    • The Summer Hikaru Died by mokumokuren
    • Boys of the Dead by Douji Tomita
    • Monster and Beast by Renji
    • Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba by Koyoharu Gotouge


    Non-Fiction:

    • Monster Theory: Reading Culture by Jeffrey Jerome Cohen
    • Of Giants: Sex, Monsters, & the Middle Ages by Jeffrey Jerome Cohen
    • Why Dragons Dominated the Landscape of Medieval Monsters
    • Monsters in the Closet: Homosexuality and the Horror Film by Harry Benshoff
    • Becoming the Monster: Queer Monstrosity and the Reclamation of the Werewolf in Slash Fandom by Jacquelin Elliot
    • K-Pop Fandom Performing Deokhu from the 1990s to Today By Areum Jeong


    Music: ⁠⁠HOLY MOLY⁠⁠ by Shane Ivers

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    56 min

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Welcome to Pages & Prejudice — your new favourite podcast exploring the best, worst, and most blush-worthy corners of the romance genre. Hosted by Stitch and Adrie Rose, two black femmes with…

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