Dean Vander Mey of Set Free Ministries joins Perry and Shawna to wrestle with wrestling with God. There is no easy path to spiritual depth—the only way there is through the pain, through the seasons of struggle with God. Wrestling brings us to the end of ourselves and to the beginning of God. First we take a stab at defining wrestling with God, what it looks like in real life and why we have to wrestle. And then Dean shares what he learned from almost dying (twice!) in 2018 after contracting malaria. Then Dean shares what he and his wife learned from the death of their first child—the beauty that came out of the indescribable agony of that loss. Then Dean shares the story his friend who was pregnant and chose to forego chemotherapy so that her child would live. Dean and his friends were sure she would be healed after making such a noble choice, but she wasn’t. Find out what Dean learned in that season of crying out to God “Why??” And finally Dean tells us about his friend Todd who was living the American Dream without a care in the world, including any care for God. But then he was diagnosed with ALS. Everything was stripped from Todd’s life but Todd was able to say “Dean, I’m so thankful for ALS, because I would not have come to know Jesus any other way. www.setfreemin.org