Host Megan Hamilton welcomes Pam Grossman, a prominent figure in the world of witchcraft and creativity. They discuss Pam's recent experiences, including casting a love spell at Carnegie Hall, the significance of hope in challenging times, and the insights from tarot readings.

Pam also shares details about her upcoming book, 'Magic Maker,' which explores the intersection of magic and creativity. The conversation emphasizes the importance of community, the role of spirit in creative processes, and the humor that can be found in spiritual practices.

Megan and Pam explore the intersections of punk rock, witchcraft, and personal empowerment. They discuss the significance of reclaiming the title of 'witch,' the historical context of witch hunts, and the importance of community and activism in modern witchcraft.

The dialogue emphasizes the power of language, the role of magic in protection, and the need for inclusivity within spiritual practices. Pam shares her personal journey and insights on how witchcraft can serve as a tool for empowerment and resistance against societal norms.

Chapters

(00:00) Introduction to Pam Grossman and Her Work

(02:54) The Carnegie Hall Experience and Its Significance

(05:52) Navigating Anxiety and Embracing Spirit

(09:02) The Role of Hope in Challenging Times

(11:53) Tarot Insights and Personal Reflections

(14:57) Exploring the New Book: Magic Maker

(17:59) Creativity as a Collaborative Process

(20:56) The Intersection of Humor and Spirituality

(28:02) Punk Rock Spirit and Rebellion

(29:59) Defining Witchcraft and Personal Journeys

(33:13) The Power of Language and Identity

(36:06) Historical Context of Witchcraft and Persecution

(40:51) Community, Activism, and Modern Witchcraft

(47:57) Magic as a Tool for Protection and Empowerment

(55:10) Building Community Through Spiritual Practices

More About Pam Grossman and her work:

Pam Grossman is a writer, curator, and teacher of magical practice and history. She is the host of the internationally-beloved podcast, The Witch Wave and the author of Waking the Witch and What Is A Witch. She is also co-editor and co-author of the WITCHCRAFT volume of Taschen’s Library of Esoterica series. Her forthcoming book MAGIC MAKER: THE ENCHANTED PATH TO CREATIVITY will be out from Penguin Life in October 2025. Her writing has appeared in numerous mediums, including The New York Times, The Atlantic, TIME.com, and many more. She divides her time between Brooklyn and the Western Catskills alongside her husband and their two feline familiars.

Pre-order her book Magic Maker: The Enchanted Path to Creativity

https://www.penguinrandomhouse.ca/books/753978/magic-maker-by-pam-grossman/9780593832363

Witch Wave Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/posts/witch-wave-plus-34958959

Personal Website: https://www.pamgrossman.com

Podcast Website: https://www.witchwavepodcast.com/

Personal Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/phantasmaphile

Witch Wave Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/witchwavepod/

YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@phantasmaphile

Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/phantasmaphile.bsky.social

More About Megan Hamilton and her work:

Megan Hamilton is a speaker, speaking coach, musician and host of the Embracing Enchantment podcast. She's currently writing her first book and her tarot readings are open until mid June!

Grab a tarot reading: https://www.ubuskills.com/tarot-readings

Podcast Website: ⁠https://www.embracingenchantment.com/⁠

Speaking Coaching Website: ⁠https://www.ubuskills.com/⁠

Speaking Coaching Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/ubuskills⁠

TikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@ubuskills⁠

Podcast Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/embracingenchantmentpod

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