This week we're talking about panic attacks and how dealing with them is not only challenging but counterintuitive.

Martin tells me we can't take a break, even for the Queen's Jubilee, I moan about street parties, we agree that traveling to Florida sounds incredibly dangerous, and there is some fish snobbery.

At the end, I've left you a little gift to mark the end of season 5(!!)

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