Parity Podcast

Parity Podcast

By Cathy Nestrick and Deborah Pollack-MilgateSociety & CultureBusiness
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Parity Podcast episodes

  • The World Is Bigger Than Your Backyard, Interview of Tracy J. Edmonds

    In this episode, Tracy J. Edmonds, the author of Wild Hair and the owner of TJE Coaching and Consulting, explains how authenticity can disrupt gender bias, help us connect with others, and transform women into more effective and visible leaders.

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    Intro

    1:20 Tracy J. Edmonds is a mom, coach, consultant, and author of Wild Hair

    Episode Breakdown

    1:55 In today's episode we discuss:

    1. What is authenticity and how do we discover who we are
    2. How does authenticity impact leadership, working moms, vulnerability, and workplace culture
    3. How does authenticity relate to each element of the Parity Prescription and practical advice for listeners striving to be authentic at work

    Who is Tracy J. Edmonds?

    2:35 Recovering corporate soldier, 31 year corporate veteran, former Chief Diversity Officer of Fortune 500 company

    2:53 Pivoting to entrepreneurship and unlearning in order to chart a new path

    3:00 Now coaches women and offers diversity consulting - TJE Coaching & Consulting, LLC

    What is authenticity?

    3:30 Important for women to be authentic but it is challenging in male-dominated organizations and industries

    4:00 Definitions of authentic, Webster's definition

    4:12 Authenticity is also being true to yourself

    4:40 We all have different lived experiences and being true to ourselves is different for each of us

    How do we discover our own authenticity?

    5:15 Discovering your own authenticity is challenging

    5:30 Don't assume that you know who you are

    5:54 We are often defined by expectations of others

    6:16 Discovering your own authenticity is a journey and takes time

    6:20 4 principles of authenticity

    1. Self honesty - look internally about who you are and what you want
    2. Courage - how do you put your fear in action
    3. Confidence - have a healthy respect for who you are and your abilities
    4. Resilience - stay the course over a lifetime

    7:50 Tracy's motivation to write Wild Hair

    8:55 Tracy's moments of dissonance or disagreements between her authentic self and what was expected of her

    9:15 Tracy straightened her hair for many years

    10:25 As the Chief Diversity Officer, she decided to make a change and wear her hair naturally - this was Tracy's "wild hair moment"

    10:55 Tracy's actions were freeing for many women, particularly Black women

    11:50 Too much emphasis on women's appearances and impact of COVID

    12:45 COVID created chaos but that gives us the opportunity to make change

    How does authenticity impact leadership, working moms, vulnerability, and workplace culture?

    14:40 People rate women highly on leadership skills but men recieve more leadership roles

    15:00 Authentic leadership can help women be seen inside organizations and disrupt unconscious bias

    15:45 Women don't need to check the box for all requirements to lean in and seek leadership opportunities

    17:00 It is empowering for women to think about:

    1. What is it that I do that no one else can?
    2. What makes me unique?
    3. What impact can I make through what I have and what I do?

    18:30 Increased focus on mothers due to COVID

    19:05 Understanding your own authenticity can help you navigate motherhood/parenthood

    19:45 Story of woman preparing for maternity leave

    20:55 Greatest challenge is when we're out of integrity with ourselves (ie, working instead of attending a baseball game or vice versa)

    21:40 Easy for us to "lose ourselves" as we struggle to keep up with work and personal life

    23:10 Navigating careers and work-life balance is easier when there are male allies providing support

    23:42 Importance of vulnerability in being authentic

    24:50 Only be vulnerable when it adds value - being overly vulnerable or giving TMI can be harmful

    25:30 Underrepresented groups have more on the line than others so we need to be careful about vulnerability

    26:23 Being authentically vulnerable can create authentic connections

    28:23 Tips for being vulnerable:

    1. Always add value when seeking new connections
    2. Give context to your story
    3. Speak a universal truth

    30:35 When is it time to leave your job? Consider, what are your goals/values and can your organization help you meet those goals/values

    30:45 Changing culture is challenging to execute and takes time

    34:20 Maya Angelou quote: "When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."

    34:25 Great Resignation: We can't unsee what we saw and unlearn progress like acceleration of digitization and success of WFH.

    36:33 COVID caused us to reprioritize our lives

    37:02 Work is an activity and not a place

    How does authenticity relate to each element of the Parity Prescription and practical advice for listeners striving to be authentic at work?

    38:50 The Parity Prescription is:

    Stop Trying to Change Women

    Create Diverse Teams

    Recognize Unconscious Bias

    Intentionally Include

    Partner with Men as Allies

    Talk About the Issues

    39:27 How can women resist the very real pressure to conform?

    40:45 Many women feel pressure to conform - don't work where you are "less than" or must conform, but have a plan before walking out the door

    42:00 When women are on boards and in senior leadership roles, organizations have better financial outcomes

    42:27 Men can be terrific allies and are often those men with daughters or who are married to BIPOC women

    43:10 Tips to detect pressure to conform

    44:40 We all show up in different ways and leaders don't always look the same

    45:00 Example of woman who conformed and modeled the behavior of men to get to the top but it took her 2x as long as her male peers

    46:25 Women experience unconscious bias in different ways

    47:18 Black women have additional unconscious biases to navigate - intersectionality is a challenge

    48:18 Trust can be a challenge for women at work

    50:30 Story of how authenticity can disrupt unconscious bias

    52:57 Practical tips to increase inclusion

    1. Remember that the world is bigger than your backyard
    2. Work with different people
    3. Make sure the introverts have space to speak up on calls
    4. Be willing to be vulnerable
    5. Have a learning mindset

    56:18 Effective male allies need to be vulnerable and admit that they don't know everything; reflect on times when they were in a group, didn't fit in, and they knew it.

    59:55 The shadow of top leaders creates culture and they need to set the tone so that it is ok to talk about the issues

    Where You Can Find Us

    Website: www.par-ity.com

    Follow us on Instagram, Twitter and LinkedIn

    Co-Hosts: Deborah Pollack-Milgate and Cathy Nestrick

    Today's Guest: Tracy J. Edmonds

    Email [email protected] with questions or comments

    1 hr 6 min
  • How to Discover and FLEX Your Authenticity at Work

    Women receive mixed messages to be authentic but also to conform, fall in line, fit in. It's a challenging tightrope to walk but we have solutions. In this episode, learn how to discover your own authenticity, and then how to FLEX so that you can contribute at work in a way that reflects who you are.

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    Intro

    2:10 Women are told to be authentic but also to conform

    2:29 We need to stop trying to change women

    3:00 Mixed signals start at birth

    5:05 Girls are trained to smile, be pleasant, play well with others

    6:00 Sometimes we don't know who we are

    Episode Breakdown

    6:19 In today's episode we will discuss:

    1. What is authenticity and what are tips for you to best discover who you are
    2. Why is authenticity at work critical
    3. How can you navigate between being authentic and the pressure to conform or fit in

    6:40 Tracy J. Edmonds author of Wild Hair

    Tips to Discover Your Authenticity

    9:20 Definitions of authentic

    Webster's definition

    10:35 Uncover authenticity by asking

    • who or what you trust
    • what you cherish
    • what brings meaning and purpose to your life
    • what gives you peace

    Dr. Nithila Peter of eiLeads

    12:45 (Cathy), 16:12 (Deborah) Who or what you trust answers

    18:22 (Deborah), 19:50 (Cathy) What do you cherish answers

    22:20 (Cathy), 24:40 (Deborah) What brings meaning and purpose to your life answers

    28:25 (Deborah), 29:28 (Cathy) What gives you peace answers

    30:46 (Cathy), 32:05 (Deborah) 3 characteristics or values

    35:05 Strengths Finder by Tom Rath

    35:30 Women have to prove themselves over and over again

    How to Understand Unconscious Bias So We Can See Women

    Why Authenticity Matters at Work

    36:36 Inauthenticity akes you feel uncomfortable

    36:58 Story of friend rated poorly because she was being authentic

    38:15 ⅓ employees feel pressure to conform

    How to Be More Authentic at Work by Dr. Patricia Hewlin

    38:30 Examples are:

    -parents downplay importance of parenting

    -employees won't wear clothing reflecting their religion

    -people stay silent on social justice issues

    -people don't speak up about inequity or workplace microaggressions

    38:58 We learn when to smile, frown, nod

    How to Be More Authentic at Work by Dr. Patricia Hewlin

    39:27 Being authentic improves marketing skills

    How to Express Authenticity - Flexing

    40:20 What is flexing

    40:38 Tips for those early in career

    40:52 Tips for interviews

    41:40 Using authenticity to nudge culture in the right direction

    42:01 Examples:

    -Don't like sports

    -Social justice issue matters to you

    -Challenges with parenting

    42:28 Tip for allies

    42:45 Flex through vulnerability

    42:50 What is vulnerability

    Books by Dr. Brene Brown

    43:30 Dr. Brene Brown 2010 Ted Talk: The Power of Vulnerability

    43:44 Vulnerability births innovation, creativity, change

    Vulnerability is the birthplace of creativity, innovation, and change by Dr. Brene Brown

    44:35 Importance of:

    Sharing new ideas at work

    Disagreeing with someone at work

    Admitting that you made a mistake

    46:36 Risks of flexing authenticity

    47:40 Leaders should model authenticity

    48:20 Parity in Play

    48:34 Afghan women and girls

    CSIS article

    48:54 Girls barred from secondary school

    BBC article

    49:10 Unconscious bias in the US

    How to Understand Unconscious Bias So We Can See Women

    Unconscious Bias: Hidden Forces Undermining Women at Work

    Where You Can Find Us

    Website: www.par-ity.com

    Follow us on Instagram, Twitter and LinkedIn

    Co-Hosts: Deborah Pollack-Milgate and Cathy Nestrick

    Contributor: Dr. Nithila Peter of eiLeads

    Email [email protected] with questions or comments

    54 min
  • Only Wonder Women Need Apply: Solutions for Working Moms

    Juggling work and motherhood is a bone-weary challenge unless you're Wonder Woman. While women's skills grow after becoming mothers, we often face biases that stall careers. The pandemic made the situation more dire but now is a golden opportunity to find solutions with the Parity Prescription.

    Subscribe! Time-stamped show notes are below.

    Intro

    00:27 Time for gender parity increased from 100 to 135 yrs; COVID widened the gender gap, CNBC

    5:23 Need workplace support; Unfinished Business by Anne Marie Slaughter

    Unique Skills of Working Moms

    8:29 Skills grow; Modern Family Index; Why Mothers Make Excellent Employees, DiversityQ

    12:42 Skills developed as mothers

    13:35 Remain calm under pressure

    14:29 Improve communication skills

    14:50 Hone negotiation skills

    15:10 Improve creativity

    Biases Against Mothers

    16:19 50% believe mothers are less committed to work; Modern Family Index

    17:54 Mothers MORE devoted

    18:25 Won't "half-ass" my job - kids are watching

    19:08 Sleep deprived v. less interest

    20:00 Moms lose opportunities

    20:15 'She won't have time'

    20:37 "Benevolent" leaders harm careers

    20:42 Fathers face bias too

    21:15 Women judged for flex schedules; Modern Family Index

    21:32 Motherhood biases + regular biases against women; How to Understand Unconscious Bias So We Can See Women, Parity Podcast (Apple); How to Understand Unconscious Bias So We Can See Women, Parity Podcast (Spotify); Unconscious Bias: Hidden Forces Undermining Women at Work

    12:03 Boss not supportive

    22:20 Will mother return to work?

    23:44 Miscarriage, morning sickness, breast pumping at work

    25:02 Common questions causing guilt

    27:44 Child crying on Zoom

    28:30 Opportunities given to less qualified employees; The Wage Gap is Wider for Working Mothers; The Hazard of the Motherhood Penalty

    29:16 Mothers MORE ambitious; For mothers in the workplace, a year (and counting) like no other, McKinsey

    30:44 Women do more housework; Mothers' Careers Are At Extraordinary Risk Right Now, Atlantic Monthly

    32:01 Work culture; 8 Signposts of Cultures Where Women Thrive, Parity Podcast (Apple); 8 Signposts of Cultures Where Women Thrive, Parity Podcast (Spotify)

    Impact of COVID

    32:56 Job losses; OxFam International

    34:10 Women overrepresented in low wage jobs; Women in Low-Wage Jobs are Underpaid and Overloaded, Atlantic Monthly

    34:29 Working thru pandemic

    36:22 Feeling judged; Mothers' Careers Are At Extraordinary Risk Right Now, For mothers in the workplace, a year (and counting) like no other

    Solutions

    37:45 Parity Prescription helps; How the Parity Prescription Can Work for You

    38:29 Recognize Unconscious Bias; How to Understand Unconscious Bias So We Can See Women, Parity Podcast (Apple); How to Understand Unconscious Bias So We Can See Women, Parity Podcast (Spotify); Unconscious Bias: Hidden Forces Undermining Women at Work

    39:29 Focus on skills

    40:51 Partner with Allies; How Male Allies Can Lean In for Measurable Gains to Achieve Parity, Parity Podcast (Apple); How Male Allies Can Lean In for Measurable Gains to Achieve Parity, Parity Podcast (Spotify)

    41:15 Allies at home

    44:15 Allies at work

    49:19 Talk About the Issues; How to Have Tough Conversations at Work, Parity Prescription (Apple); How to Have Tough Conversations at Work, Parity Prescription (Spotify)

    Parity in Play

    51:05 Some universities not supportive of women in STEM programs; The Parent Trap: Scholars find antagonism towards motherhood dissuades women from pursuing academic science careers, UC Santa Barbara, July 15, 2021

    Where You Can Find Us

    Website: www.par-ity.com

    Follow us on Instagram, Twitter and LinkedIn

    Co-Hosts: Deborah Pollack-Milgate and Cathy Nestrick

    Contributor: Dr. Nithila Peter of eiLeads

    Email [email protected] with questions or comments

    57 min
  • 8 Signposts of Cultures Where Women Thrive

    Business culture can make or break your career. It's that invisible but ever-present force that determines whether you are seen and heard, welcomed and respected. In this episode, you will learn the eight signposts of a robust culture where women-- and everyone --can thrive.

    You can find the resources that we used for this episode at www.par-ity.com and we would love to hear from you at [email protected]. Follow us on Instagram, Twitter and LinkedIn, and subscribe to this podcast so that you don't miss a single episode.

    You can also find the hosts Deborah Pollack-Milgate and Cathy Nestrick on LinkedIn.

    We hope to connect with you again soon so that we can make progress with the Parity Prescription!

    46 min
  • The Treasure Trove of Emotional Intelligence: An Interview with Dr. Nithila Peter

    Emotional Intelligence - understanding ourselves and relating to others - will help us achieve parity. Join us as we interview Dr. Nithila Peter of eiLeads to learn how to improve your emotional intelligence and how EI helps us implement the Parity Prescription.

    You can find the resources that we used for this episode at www.par-ity.com and we would love to hear from you at [email protected]. Follow us on Instagram, Twitter and LinkedIn, and subscribe to this podcast so that you don't miss a single episode.

    You can also find the hosts Deborah Pollack-Milgate and Cathy Nestrick on LinkedIn. We hope to connect with you again soon so that we can make progress with the Parity Prescription!

    50 min
  • 5 Steps to Achieve Increased Leadership by Women

    A majority of people rate women higher than men for leadership skills. Studies show that many of the core competencies necessary for success as a leader are competencies at which women excel. Despite these strengths as leaders, men are more often awarded the coveted positions of power. In this episode, we will explore why and propose 5 steps to promote women into more leadership roles.

    You can find the resources that we used for this episode at www.par-ity.com and we would love to hear from you at [email protected]. Follow us on Instagram, Twitter and LinkedIn, and subscribe to this podcast so that you don't miss a single episode.

    You can also find the hosts Deborah Pollack-Milgate and Cathy Nestrick on LinkedIn. We hope to connect with you again soon so that we can make progress with the Parity Prescription!

    48 min
  • How Male Allies Can Lean In for Measurable Gains to Achieve Parity

    Women are frequently encouraged to "lean in," but we can only lean in so far before we lose our balance. Men, we need you to lean in as allies and meet us halfway because we cannot achieve parity without you. In this episode, we teach allies how to be effective by being mentors, sponsors, partners, and collaborators with women, and we guide women on how to identify and partner with male allies.

    You can find the resources that we used for this episode at www.par-ity.com and we would love to hear from you at [email protected]. Follow us on Instagram, Twitter and LinkedIn, and subscribe to this podcast so that you don't miss a single episode.

    You can also find the hosts Deborah Pollack-Milgate and Cathy Nestrick on LinkedIn. We hope to connect with you again soon so that we can make progress with the Parity Prescription!

    40 min
  • How to Have Tough Conversations at Work

    Want to talk about gender inequality at work? Having those tough conversations is critical to achieving workplace parity, and in this episode, we will give you a framework so you can consider when and how to start.

    You can find the resources that we used for this episode at www.par-ity.com and we would love to hear from you at [email protected]. Follow us on Instagram, Twitter and LinkedIn, and subscribe to this podcast so that you don't miss a single episode.

    You can also find the hosts Deborah Pollack-Milgate and Cathy Nestrick on LinkedIn.

    We hope to connect with you again soon so that we can make progress with the Parity Prescription!

    31 min
  • 5 Action Steps to Shake It Up with Greater Gender Diversity and Inclusion

    In this episode, we will lay out the business case for diversity and inclusion and give you 5 actions steps so that everyone feels welcome, connected, and included in your organization.

    You can find the resources that we used for this episode at www.par-ity.com and we would love to hear from you at [email protected]. Follow us on Instagram, Twitter and LinkedIn, and subscribe to this podcast so that you don't miss a single episode.

    You can also find the hosts Deborah Pollack-Milgate and Cathy Nestrick on LinkedIn.

    We hope to connect with you again soon so that we can make progress with the Parity Prescription!

    33 min
  • How to Understand Unconscious Bias so We Can See Women

    In this episode, we will examine the science and culture which causes unconscious bias which can make women seem invisible, and we will bust some myths along the way. Spoiler Alert: Women don't talk too much!

    You can find the resources that we used for this episode at www.par-ity.com and we would love to hear from you at [email protected]. Follow us on Instagram, Twitter and LinkedIn, and subscribe to this podcast so that you don't miss a single episode.

    You can also find the hosts Deborah Pollack-Milgate and Cathy Nestrick on LinkedIn. We hope to connect with you again soon so that we can make progress with the Parity Prescription!

    29 min

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Women have had the right to vote for 100 years, but most experts believe that we will not achieve workplace parity for another 135 years! 135 years is a long time, friends, to wait for gender equality…