In Part 1 of the two-part Sunday podcast, The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Ryen Russillo to discuss the Suns’ Game 4 win over the Clippers, Deandre Ayton’s importance to the Suns’ success, the uncertainty surrounding Kawhi Leonard, why Bill thinks the Clippers still have a chance, and more (2:30) before they revisit the 2018 NBA draft and discuss potential trades leading up to the 2021 NBA draft, Team USA, and more (44:00).

Host: Bill Simmons

Guest: Ryen Russillo

Producer: Kyle Crichton

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