In this episode of Confidence and Coffee, the host has a conversation with Rich Grogan, a sixth degree black belt in Master Martial Arts with 40 years of experience who has spent the last 30 years of his life teaching, coaching, and educating kids and adults about the power of hope, courage, and confidence to overcome their fears and stand up to bullying. Rich is also a life coach and a bully-proof expert with a podcast about bullying.

During the conversation, they discuss the reality of church trauma and deconstruction and the importance of being there to help people when they are ready, without cramming anything down their throat. They also talk about the concept of selflessness and how it is difficult for humans because of our natural selfishness. Rich shares a story about how people say they are selfless but still want to look good in pictures. Overall, the conversation is insightful and provides listeners with valuable insights into bullying, confidence, and personal growth.

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