Kath tells Pat the story of a scam from the height of America's sweepstakes craze, featuring a cast of unusual characters and a cameo by Donald Trump himself.

The reporting in this episode comes from Jeff Maysh, an incredible documenter of scams, who wrote about Chuck Seidman and CBS in the New Yorker in 2022. You can read his reporting here.

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