On the latest Off the Edge with Cam Jordan podcast, Cam is joined by two rising stars in the NFL's defensive backfield, Broncos cornerback Patrick Surtain II and Lions safety Kerby Joseph.

First up is Patrick Surtain II, who walks us through his electrifying 100-yard pick-6 against the Raiders. He shares the instincts behind that game-changing play, as well as his thoughts on young cornerbacks like Christian Gonzalez modeling their game after his. Patrick also reflects on the heated exchange between head coach Sean Payton and quarterback Bo Nix, praising his quarterback's competitive drive.

Next, Lions safety Kerby Joseph talks about the challenges of the highly competitive NFC North, especially with the Vikings' hot 5-0 start. He discusses how the Lions are preparing to keep pace and why he considers anything less than a Super Bowl appearance a failure for their season.

He also shares how he's embracing the coaching staff's challenge to improve his man coverage skills and step into a leadership role with a young defensive unit.

The Off the Edge with Cam Jordan podcast is a production of the NFL in partnership with iHeart Radio.

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.