In this episode of TMO, Billy Corgan sits down with songwriting legend Paul Williams for a free‑wheeling conversation that spans astrology, Williams’ nomadic childhood and early hormone therapy, his breakthrough at A&M Records, and the creation of “We’ve Only Just Begun”, sessions with the Wrecking Crew, trading quips with Johnny Carson on The Tonight Show, Williams’ roles in Battle for the Planet of the Apes and Brian De Palma’s cult classic Phantom of the Paradise, and his memorable “Love Boat” theme. Both reflect on struggles with addiction: Williams’ 1989 cocaine‑induced breakdown that led to long‑term sobriety and Corgan’s experience with his father’s substance abuse.

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