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Four in ten adults, most with no idea — and one of the most reversible conditions there is. What fills a liver, and what empties it.
Deepavali has just been and gone — and the organ that worked hardest through the feast is the one we talk about least. Fatty liver, now called MASLD, affects about three in ten adults worldwide and nearly four in ten in India's cities — mostly without symptoms, and not only in people who are overweight. Ashok and Meera explain how a liver gets fat (sugar, especially fructose, alcohol and sitting still), why it's a warning light for the heart, and the good news: weight loss of 5–10%, cutting sugary drinks, exercise and a Mediterranean-style plate can reverse it — even scarring.
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The internet's newest nutrition craze is backing the one nutrient almost all of us are short of — but the fibre soda isn't the answer. Your dal is.
Last year it was proteinmaxxing. This year it's fibremaxxing — chia in everything, beans at breakfast, even fibre soda. Ashok and Meera explain why the internet has, for once, backed the right horse: most of us already eat enough protein but get only about half the fibre we need. What fibre actually does (feeding the gut bacteria that feed you), why 'nature's Ozempic' is overstated, where fibremaxxing goes wrong, and the everyday kitchen foods — dal, chana, guava, whole grains — that close the gap without a single gummy.
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Low-fat aisles, olive-oil halos and the organ we forgot we had — why fat was never the villain, never the hero, and what the evidence says to put on your plate.
For twenty years fat was nutrition's number one villain. Now olive oil, nuts and avocado are heroes. Same nutrient, opposite reputation — which suggests we've been asking the wrong question. Ashok and Meera look at the fat we carry (an organ that talks to your brain, plus a brown fat that burns energy) and the fat we eat (essential fats, and the vitamins that can't get in without it). Then the evidence: why the low-fat era backfired, what the American Heart Association found, and the PREDIMED trial, where olive oil and nuts beat a low-fat diet for heart health.
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Juice cleanses, liver flushes and foot pads that turn brown overnight — versus the 24/7 detox system you already own, and the foods that genuinely help it.
Co-hosts Ashok and Meera Vasudevan pull up two chairs for a quick chat — evidence-based, a little cheeky, and firmly in the kitchen, never the clinic. This week: the detox industry, and the question it never answers.
So they ask the question the detox industry never answers: what exactly is a detox diet detoxing? Then they meet the real thing. The liver — a kilo and a half of a chemical processing plant — works in two steps: tweak the molecule, then attach a little molecular handle (conjugation) so it dissolves in water. Grab it, tag it, ship it. The kidneys filter around 180 litres of fluid a day and ask for nothing more exotic than water.
Then the cleanse goes on trial. A 2015 review found no compelling evidence that commercial detox diets remove any toxins at all. Worse, the liver’s ‘handles’ are built largely from protein — so a juice-only cleanse sends the cleaning crew home without lunch. And heavy green-juice cleanses, loaded with oxalate, have landed some people with kidney damage.
Finally, the kitchen pharmacy: cabbage-family vegetables that switch on the liver’s own enzymes; a carefully measured study in Qidong, China, that shows the difference between feeding the liver and ‘cleansing’ it; fibre that stops the liver’s work from being ‘returned to sender’; and the grapefruit warning on medicine labels — proof that food genuinely talks to your liver.
In this episode
● Which toxin? The question detox marketing never answers
● Your liver’s two-step system: grab it, tag it, ship it
● Kidneys: your entire plasma, filtered about sixty times a day
● What the evidence says about juice cleanses — and why they can backfire
● Cabbage family, fibre and water: feeding the cleaning crew
● Grapefruit and the medicine label: food is chemistry
● The real detox: take less in — and a teaser for our fatty-liver episode
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The MUST Test: Raising the Bar on Food
A pill must prove it does good. A food additive only has to prove it does no harm. Why?
Three weeks of asking what is in your food, and now the question the whole series was built for. Before a medicine reaches you it must prove not only that it will not harm you, but that it actually does something — measured against a placebo, under scrutiny that assumes nothing. A food additive, eaten daily for a lifetime, faces a far lighter test. In the United States a great many enter the food supply under a doctrine called GRAS, “generally recognized as safe,” where the company making the additive often assembles its own evidence and declares it safe. In this finale Ashok and Meera make a proposal that is not “ban the chemicals” — it is change the question. Call it MUST: Minimal, Useful, Safe, Tested. They take the fair objection head-on (who decides what “useful” means, and wouldn’t industry capture the new bar as it shaped the old?), then come home to the one shelf you actually control. Your pantry should be a cook’s workshop, not a miniature of the supermarket aisle.
Based on Ashok’s essay “Trust but Read the Label”: https://ashokv.substack.com/p/trust-but-read-the-label
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Food Additives: Banned There, Allowed Here
Same chemical, same evidence, opposite verdicts — and the global safety vote that passed sixty-nine to sixty-seven.
The same additive is illegal in one country and perfectly legal in another. Not because one set of scientists found harm and the other did not — but because the two are answering different questions. This week Ashok and Meera open the case files: potassium bromate, banned across the EU, UK, Canada, Brazil, China and India and still legal in the United States; titanium dioxide, the bright white in icing, banned in the EU in 2022 and permitted in the US; the nitrites in cured meat, the one genuinely settled item on the tour. Plus a deliberate act of fairness — the exoneration of MSG, the most feared additive of the last half century that turned out to be among the safest. And then the moment the whole series has been walking towards: July 2012, when Codex could not reach consensus on a growth drug in the world’s meat, and so it voted. Sixty-nine to sixty-seven. Seven abstentions. That is how the global definition of “safe” was settled.
Based on Ashok’s essay “Trust but Read the Label”: https://ashokv.substack.com/p/trust-but-read-the-label
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CODEX: The Committee That Feeds the World
A committee in Rome decides what goes into your food — and it was never asked whether any of it makes you well.
Last week we turned a packet over. This week we go to Rome — to a building most people have never heard of, housing a committee that quietly decides what may go into food, everywhere on earth. Ashok and Meera introduce Codex Alimentarius: founded in 1963 by two arms of the United Nations, 189 members, and the author of the rulebook behind almost everything in your kitchen. It ended chalk in the flour and water in the milk, and it deserves real credit for that. But read its own stated purpose twice — “protecting consumers’ health and ensuring fair practices in the food trade” — and you find health and trade in the same breath. The operative word is protect. Not promote. In this episode: why a Codex number is a passport rather than advice, the machine that subtracts goodness from food and sells a fraction of it back as innovation, and the startling arithmetic of who actually sits in the room where “safe” gets defined.
Based on Ashok’s essay “Trust but Read the Label”: https://ashokv.substack.com/p/trust-but-read-the-label
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Food Labels: What’s Really in Your Food?
The ice cream that wouldn’t melt — and the question nobody is asking about what you eat.
Ashok bought an ice cream bar at a railway kiosk in Wales and made the mistake of turning it over: the first seven ingredients belonged in a kitchen, the next ten in a lab. Then, from Wales to Antigua — where Meera made her own discovery: a strawberry ice cream in a cup that simply refused to melt, sitting there like a mousse, holding its pose long after real ice cream would have surrendered into cream. In this opener of our four-part Read the Label series, Ashok and Meera ask the question nobody official is asking about your food: not “is it safe?” — that’s been answered thousands of times — but “is it good for you?” From an 18-ingredient loaf of bread to the strange comfort of the word “approved,” this is where the story of your label begins.
Based on Ashok’s essay “Trust but Read the Label”: https://ashokv.substack.com/p/trust-but-read-the-label
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The Kitchen and the Pivot: Pay the Farmer, Not the Pharmacy (We Are What We Eat, Part 4 of 4)
The finale begins in the oldest wellness institution on earth: grandmother's kitchen. Turmeric, ferments, whole grains, seasonal vegetables — preventive medicine served three times a day and called lunch. In the closing episode of the series based on Ashok's Substack essay, Ashok and Meera connect that compressed wisdom (via Michael Pollan's famous rule) to the modern evidence — and then make the pivot: an appeal to the food industry itself. Scale and nutrition are not in conflict. Convenience and integrity are not opposites. Drawing lightly on Ashok's four decades in food, this episode argues that community health isn't a constraint on business — it's the foundation of it.
Plus: what "pay the farmer, not the pharmacy" actually means, and three evidence-based things you can do this week.
📖 Read the essay that inspired the series: https://ashokv.substack.com/p/we-are-what-we-eat
We are what we eat. Eat well — and pay the farmer, not the pharmacy.
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The Great Decoupling: Sixty Years, One Chart (We Are What We Eat, Part 3 of 4)
At the heart of Ashok's Substack essay is a single chart: sixty years of food industry growth — revenue up ~26x, market value up ~100x since 1980 — drawn against sixty years of rising obesity, diabetes, hypertension, and depression. In Part 3, Ashok and Meera read that chart honestly: not as prosecution (correlation isn't causation, and they say so), but as provocation. What changed in the 1970s and 80s, when food science shifted from preserving food to engineering desire? How did the "bliss point" become a business model, and ultra-processed products come to supply over half our calories? And why did nobody decide any of this — yet it happened anyway?
The decoupling of business success from community health wasn't a conspiracy. It was ten thousand small optimizations. Which means it might be reversible the same way.
📖 See the chart and read the full essay: https://ashokv.substack.com/p/we-are-what-we-eat
We are what we eat. Eat well — and pay the farmer, not the pharmacy.
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