Discussing single-use plastics, recycling and the drive for a circular economy: Bernard Merkx and Leslie Maliepaard chat to Lisa Burke about the issues and solutions.

"People started pollution so people can stop pollution" says Leslie, who founded The Planet Calls whilst living in Ireland.

Bernard talks about how we need a mindset shift to understand that plastics have value, just like our mobile phones or fridges. Bernard has spent his life working in the plastics industry and lobbies at EU level for regulation change.