Perry and Shawna have a conversation about perfect peace with Todd Krygsheld, the chaplain at Ottawa County Jail. We talk about how peace is not a perfect wintery postcard with the snow falling on a cozy cabin, but peace is in the baby who grew up and died and rose to give us peace and friendship with God. We also talk about how peace with God, friendship with him is our anchor in the swirling uncertainties and circumstances of life. We also realize that peace is not in big screen TVs, and I Phones and a flashy red Ford trucks but in being in friendship with God now and forever. THEN, the Church Lady visits us! And guess what?? The Church Lady got saved!! Then we wrap up with a conversation about Isaiah 26:3-4: “He will keep in perfect peace the one whose heart is steadfast, who trusts in the Lord. Trust in the Lord forever.