In this episode, we explore one of the most tender parts of grief: allowing ourselves to feel joy again — without guilt, without pressure, and without making it mean that our grief has disappeared.

We’re joined by Joseph Jay, widower to his wife Casey and dad to Annie. Joseph has been an early and loyal listener of Two Girls With Grief, and recently crossed his one-year death anniversary — a milestone that has brought reflection, growth, heartbreak, and moments of unexpected joy. His honesty, vulnerability, and commitment to healing (both his and Annie’s) make this conversation incredibly special.

This episode is heartfelt, spacious, and real. If you’ve ever felt afraid of joy, guilty for laughing, or unsure how to live fully while grieving, this conversation will meet you exactly where you are.

• What the early days after losing Casey looked like

• How becoming a solo parent shaped his grief

• What the one-year mark revealed about where he’s been — and where he’s going

• How fatherhood, survival, and grief collide in unexpected ways