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CPAs look awful, so you pause the ads, and then revenue drops across channels. That’s not you. That’s the new reality of Meta Andromeda and the GEM-style ecosystem where “underperformers” can be the very ads feeding your whole business.
John Moran is back to help us break down why cost per result and conversion columns can completely derail your decision-making. We walk through a real example where shifting spend away from a core set of ads didn’t just hurt Meta; it dragged down Amazon, Google, and everything else.
Stick around to learn how we analyze ads by spend, identify themes the market is responding to, and only layer in conversion data after we’ve found the real winners.
In This Episode:
- Why you should stop pausing “underperforming” ads
- Case study: analyzing active ads differently
- How spending shifts affect performance across channels
- Using ad spend instead of conversions to find winning ads
- Real-life example of using spend to analyze ads
- CPA and conversion data challenges
Mentioned in the Episode:
Previous Episode On Why Meta Is The Best Ad Platform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRnglXjlwMo
Partner With Our Meta Ads Experts: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply
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Consult Mongoose Media - https://mongoosemedia.us/
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Create ads that convert every time with Motion’s AI tagging. Get 10% off the first three months of Motion using code TRAFFIC10 at checkout: https://motionapp.com
Are you still treating organic and paid content as separate? It’s time to reconsider! Reza Khadjavi, CEO of Motion, joins us today to break down the key creative trends for 2026. We talk about the importance of "psychological kill shots" (or killer hooks) and how to use them to craft content that not only stops the scroll but drives conversions.
Reza explains how understanding your audience’s organic consumption patterns can guide your paid creative approach for maximum impact. We also discuss the massive shift in creative strategy that’s reshaping how we create ads. From the "effort signal" to the visual diversity needed to avoid creative fatigue, we explore practical tips for maximizing engagement.
Plus, Reza shares valuable data from Motion’s recent creative trends event and how creative testing can be more than just tweaking a few visual elements. Join us for a fresh perspective on how to leverage AI tools and creative iteration to push your campaigns to the next level.
In This Episode:
- Motion's record-breaking virtual event on creative trends
- The collision of organic and paid media
- Mastering hooks: psychological kill shots that drive engagement
- How to create hundreds of ads from a single messaging angle
- Why creative strategists need business acumen
- Determining good creatives and visual formats for ads
- Using Motion for creative inspiration and testing
- Upcoming exclusive Motion bootcamp
- How to connect with Reza Khadjavi
Mentioned in the Episode:
Test Motion AI Tagging: https://motionapp.com/releases/introducing-ai-tagging?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=sponsor&utm_campaign=perpetual-traffic-podcast&utm_content=introducing-ai-tagging
Book a Demo with Motion: https://motionapp.com/book-a-demo?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=sponsor&utm_campaign=perpetual-traffic-podcast&utm_content=book-a-demo
Watch Previous Episodes on Meta’s Andromeda: https://perpetualtraffic.com/?s=andromeda
Watch the Episode on YouTube: https://perpetualtraffic.com/youtube
Motion’s 2026 Creative Trends Event: https://motionapp.com/2026-ad-creative-trends-live-lightning-round-motion
Gruns Superfoods Meta Ads Library: https://www.facebook.com/ads/library/?active_status=active&ad_type=all&country=ALL&is_targeted_country=false&media_type=all&search_type=page&source=page-transparency-widget&view_all_page_id=107585658730958
Gruns Ads Landing Page: https://gruns.co/pages/first-order
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Connect with Reza Khadjavi
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/reza-khadjavi-46802918/
Website: https://www.usemotion.com/
Twitter (X): https://x.com/rezakhadjavi
Motion on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/motion1/?originalSubdomain=ca
Connect with Ralph Burns:
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/
Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-now
Connect with Lauren Petrullo:
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LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenpetrullo
Consult Mongoose Media - https://mongoosemedia.us/
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https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/
https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/
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Are you drowning your leads with follow-up after follow-up? It’s a mistake many service-based businesses make, thinking more is better. But in reality, too much follow-up could be killing your sales instead of helping them.
In today’s episode, we dive into a common problem many health and wellness businesses face: low conversion rates after generating quality leads. Lauren shares an in-depth example from one of her clients who was generating tons of leads but only achieving a 5% booking rate. We explore why this happens and how you can fix it.
From the crucial need for accurate data tracking to the importance of defining a "qualified lead," we outline the tweaks to your sales funnel that will boost lead conversions and significantly reduce your marketing spend.
In This Episode:
- Case study of high leads and low conversion rates
- Sample lead qualification and conversion framework
- Estimating the value of opt-ins
- The correct sequence of contacting leads
- Episode wrap-up and call-to-action
Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:
Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491
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Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-now
Connect with Lauren Petrullo:
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LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenpetrullo
Consult Mongoose Media - https://mongoosemedia.us/
Mentioned in this episode:
https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/
https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/
https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/
https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/
Stop obsessing over new audiences and creative tests in Meta ads. We’ve got something better! Tier 11’s John Moran is back to share his latest breakthrough: the Sticky Pixel strategy, the secret to maximising your ROAS in every campaign.
Through real-world examples in highly competitive spaces, John reveals how creative diversification and understanding Meta's Andromeda update unlock massive cost reductions. His team has managed to acquire new customers for less than the cost of a click, something that would be nearly impossible if you used traditional Google Ads.
We explore the real power of Meta’s new audience-building system and how it keeps your pixel "sticky" to past users while optimizing ad spend. This isn't just about theory; it’s a strategy backed by data and results. Join us now to discover how you can tweak your current campaigns to reduce cost-per-acquisition and increase your ad performance.
In This Episode:
- What is the Sticky Pixel Strategy?
- Case study: application of the Sticky Pixel Strategy
- Limitations of messaging testing in driving results
- Results from broad targeting in TRT campaigns
- Overcoming objections with targeted messaging
- Using the feeder strategy in Meta ads
- Final takeaways on Meta ads spend and strategy
Mentioned in the Episode:
Partner With Tier 11’s Marketing Experts: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply
Tier 11 nCAC: https://www.tiereleven.com/ncac
Creative Diversification Package: https://www.tiereleven.com/cd
Tier 11 Data Suite: https://www.tiereleven.com/what-we-do/data-suite
Listen to Previous Ad Lab Live Sessions: tiereleven.com/youtube
Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:
Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491
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Connect with John Moran:
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnmorangads
Connect with Ralph Burns:
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/
Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-now
Connect with Lauren Petrullo:
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/laurenepetrullo/
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenpetrullo
Consult Mongoose Media - https://mongoosemedia.us/
Mentioned in this episode:
https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/
https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/
https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/
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Stop using AI like Google for market research. Here is an easy, done-for-you marketing research prompt to help you draft Meta ads that convert: https://www.tiereleven.com/prompt
Are you still guessing what your market wants and calling it “creative testing”? That’s the fastest way to burn your budget in 2026. If your ads aren’t resonating, it’s probably not the algorithm. It’s your research. Most marketers skip the hardest part and wonder why creative diversification never works.
In this episode, Cole Turner from Tier 11 breaks down a smarter way to do market research using AI. We walk you through a live demo showing how a multi-step prompting process compresses weeks of manual research into minutes. The real unlock isn’t the tool; it’s how you structure prompts to extract real voice-of-customer data, emotional triggers, and problem-aware insights that actually drive clicks, leads, and sales.
We wrap by showing how to turn that research into ads, scripts, and landing pages that don’t sound like AI fluff. You’ll hear exactly how we use this internally before launching Meta campaigns, and why “garbage in, garbage out” is an accurate statement.
In This Episode:
- Why creative research still matters
- ChatGPT market research framework
- Turning research output into ads
- When multiple ChatGPT prompts are necessary
- How to access and use the market research prompt
- Final advice on AI prompting
Mentioned in the Episode:
Previous Episode With Cole Turner: https://perpetualtraffic.com/podcast/episode-747-the-1-mistake-thats-secretly-killing-your-meta-andromeda-ads-with-cole-turner/
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Connect with Cole Turner:
- LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/coleturner98
Connect with Ralph Burns:
- LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns
- Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/
- Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-now
Connect with Lauren Petrullo:
- Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/laurenepetrullo/
- LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenpetrullo
- Consult Mongoose Media - https://mongoosemedia.us/
Mentioned in this episode:
https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/
https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/
https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/
https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/
The Meta platform continues to evolve, leaving marketers with mixed feelings. While some fear the loss of control, others are already seeing extraordinary results. Today, we revisit a lab live session we had on Meta’s new Advantage+ sales system and share a game-changing creative strategy you’ll want to try.
We’re hosting John Moran, who has spent over $1 million testing Meta's updates in real time. We discuss the shift from traditional targeting to AI-driven strategies in Meta’s Advantage+ campaigns. John reveals how advertisers are now at the mercy of the algorithm, with little control over exclusions or targeting.
However, we’ll also show you how to fight back with custom event cAPI imports, a strategy that’s helping us regain some of the control Meta has taken away. Plus, we break down the shifts in creative testing, campaign structures, and customer targeting to keep you ahead of the curve.
In This Episode:
- Advantage+ campaigns vs. manual setup
- Results from testing Meta’s algorithmic shift
- How is Advantage+ different from PMax?
- Testing Advantage+ for new customer acquisition
- Merging Advantage+ with cAPI imports
- Custom event cAPI imports explained
- Step-by-step process of setting up Advantage+ campaigns
- Inclusions and exclusions with the cAPI strategy
- Regaining control with new creative strategies
Mentioned in the Episode:
Episode 691: The MAJOR Meta Advantage+ Changes You Must Know: https://perpetualtraffic.com/podcast/episode-691-the-major-meta-advantage-changes-you-must-know/
Meta Advantage + Breaking News! | Tier 11 Live! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9-nEIymAkw
Get Your nCAC Calculator Now! https://www.tiereleven.com/ncac
Tier 11 Data Suite: https://www.tiereleven.com/what-we-do/data-suite
Partner with Tier 11’s digital marketing experts: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply
Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:
Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491
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https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/
https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/
https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/
Are you convinced your SEO is outperforming paid ads and wondering why you’re still spending six figures on Meta and Google? That assumption might be one of the worst mistakes holding your growth back. We see it all the time: brands looking at last-click data, celebrating “free” organic revenue, and completely missing what’s actually driving demand.
In today’s episode, Tier 11’s John Moran breaks down a real client example showing why channel-vs-channel thinking is broken. We unpack how Meta creative diversification fuels branded search, why organic conversions are often downstream of paid traffic, and how Google Search Console exposes real brand lift.
We also dispel the impression share myth, explain why doubling spend rarely doubles results, and show how feeder strategies inside Meta Andromeda let you sell multiple products on command. You’ll understand how to read organic data correctly, test hook rates without risking massive budgets, and use feeder campaigns to unlock scalable growth across product lines.
In This Episode:
- Should you spend more on SEO or paid ads?
- Results from organic brand search
- Breaking the impression share myth
- The feeder strategy explained
- Testing the feeder strategy on multiple products
- How to test hook rates safely
- Hook rates for videos versus statics
Do you need help to scale your Meta ads in 2026?
Partner with Tier 11’s digital marketing experts: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply
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https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/
https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/
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As we gear up for the new year, we step back and look at the four Perpetual Traffic episodes you listened to the most in the past year and what they reveal about where digital marketing is actually headed. The selected episodes explain why AI-powered customer conversations are being underused and how Advantage+ quietly removed real targeting control.
We also break down why most attribution data is misleading, even with CAPI, and what Meta’s massive AI investments mean for marketers and small businesses moving forward. Each episode highlights a different failure point we see inside ad accounts every day: wasted spend, false confidence in platform data, and missed opportunities to turn engagement into revenue.
If you want to understand what really worked in 2025 and what will matter most going into 2026, this episode ties it all together.
In This Episode:
- Episode #4: Using AI to convert customer conversations
- Episode #3: Advantage+ and loss of targeting control
- Episode #2: CAPI vs attribution with Tier 11’s Data Suite
- Episode #1: DeepSeek and the future of advertising
- Final thoughts and episode wrap-up
Featured Episodes:
DeepSeek Explained: What Marketers Need to Know: https://youtu.be/Ai9fJx41cK0
Why Your Marketing Tracking Sucks (Even If You Think It Doesn’t) and How to Fix It: https://youtu.be/SxUaKkz-5Ok
How Meta Ads Are Changing Forever: Advantage+ & cAPI Subterfuge Revealed: https://youtu.be/V4vAn65Y6nI
How Meta Ads Manager Is Lying to You & What You Can Do About It: https://youtu.be/kZFiQezrv00
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https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/
https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/
https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/
In this final part of our four-part series on why Meta remains the top platform for scaling in 2026, we continue analysing the evolution of Meta’s advertising engine. From the days of custom audience uploads in 2012 to the impact of the 2016 election and the fallout from the Cambridge Analytica scandal, these milestones have shaped the platform’s current landscape.
We also explore how the iOS 14 update and the rise of TikTok have pushed Meta to adapt and innovate in ways that make 2026 the best time to advertise on the platform. Central to these innovations is the Andromeda algorithm and creative diversification, which are set to revolutionize your advertising strategy.
You’ll discover how you can leverage these advancements to refine your marketing strategy, understand what the Andromeda update means for your campaigns, and why the future of advertising on Meta has never been more promising.
In This Episode:
- Why creative is now at the core of Meta ads
- Cambridge Analytica scandal and the 2016 elections
- Privacy issues and ad bans after Cambridge Analytica
- Navigating iOS 14's App Tracking Transparency (ATT) prompt
- The rise of TikTok and short-form content
- Andromeda update and its impact on marketing
Mentioned in the Episode:
Partner With Tier 11’s Digital Marketing Experts: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply
How Facebook Won Trump The Presidency In 2006: https://www.wired.com/2016/11/facebook-won-trump-election-not-just-fake-news/
Brad Parscale Interview on 60 Minutes: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/parscale-tv-news-thought-i-was-a-joke/
Learn More About Creative Diversification: https://www.tiereleven.com/cd
The Cambridge Analytica Scandal: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6073073/
Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:
Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491
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https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/
https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/
https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/
Do you still consider Meta a targeting platform? If so, that mindset is probably costing you scale, efficiency, and confidence in your numbers. We see too many marketers clinging to old playbooks, such as hyper-specific audiences, exclusions, and lookalikes, without realizing the platform has fundamentally changed.
In this episode, we continue our discussion on the evolution of Meta advertising, from the early days of right-hand rail ads and insane third-party data to what’s happening right now. We break down why targeting used to do the heavy lifting, why that era is over, and how AI-driven delivery flipped the model on its head.
If you’re running ads or managing clients who are, this series on Meta’s history and current strategies will recalibrate how you think about Meta before launching your 2026 marketing plan.
In This Episode:
- Early Facebook monetization and newsfeed ads
- Facebook Beacon and other early failures
- The birth of Facebook’s ad engine
- Facebook’s IPO and Instagram acquisition
- AlexNet and the foundation of AI ads
- When targeting started ruling Meta ads
- Creative replaces targeting
Mentioned in the Episode:
Facebook’s Failed Beacon Project: https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/facebook-shuts-down-beacon-marketing-tool-1.832698
Partner With Tier 11's Digital Marketing Experts: https://www.tiereleven.com/apply
Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:
Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491
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https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/
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