As a manager, there's no getting around the fact that how well people like and trust you matters. According to this week’s guest, Patric J.M. Versteeg – CISO at Viterra, a global agricultural network operating in 39 countries, trust and likability are even more critical in security than in many other fields.

Last year, Patric was named European CISO of the Year. With over two decades of experience in the role, it’s safe to say he knows a thing or two about what makes a strong leader in the world of security.

In this episode, Robby and Patric discuss what makes a great CISO, the importance of “personal leadership,” and the common pitfalls many fall into.

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