Southern Oregon University Percussion Professor Terry Longshore stops by to talk about his job at the University, building a program, and his very active chamber and freelancing performance career (02:35), growing up in Fresno (CA) and his early background on a variety of instruments (32:20), attending Fresno State University for his first undergrad degree, playing regular gigs, and what he learned majoring in computer programming (42:40), his non-music job out of undergrad, then heading to Sacramento State (CA) to study music (56:40), his time as a grad student at the University of California-San Diego and learning under the mentorship of Steven Schick (01:07:30), his first teaching position in North Dakota and how he negotiated for a better job title (01:19:15), and settles in for the Random Ass Questions, including segments on percussion stereotypes, impressions, challenging circumstances, making hummus, wedding songs, great movies and books, and being inspired by music he’s currently performing (01:26:45).

Finishing with a Rave on the 2013 film About Time (01:59:15).

Terry Longshore Links:

Terry Longshore’s website

Terry Longshore’s SOU page

Terry Longshore’s Marimba One page'

Rogue Valley Symphony

Previous Podcast Guests mentioned:

Steven Schick in 2025

Hannah Weaver in 2021

Other Links:

Tessa Brinckman

Grant Ruiz

Juri Seo

Shawn Glyde

David Glyde

Guide to Teaching Percussion - Ronald Holloway

Daniel Kennedy

“Third Construction” - John Cage

“Synchronisms No. 5” - Mario Davidovsky

George Lewis

Miller Puckette

Beginners trailer

A Fine Balance - Rohinton Mistry

The River Why - David James Duncan

Braiding Sweetgrass - Robin Wall Kimmerer

Justin DeHart

“Got My Mind Set on You” - George Harrison

How to Read a Book - Monica Wood

"Losing Earth” - Adam Schoenbert

Raves:

About Time trailer

Northwestern University (IL) Professor of Percussion She-e Wu returns to talk about staying at the University of North Texas to attend grad school and study composition (01:45), teaching and performing out of grad school, and her year teaching at the University of West Virginia (09:45), her decade teaching at Rutgers (NJ), building up the facilities, and negotiating for her current job (24:30), and finishing with the Random Ass Questions, including sections about musicality and literature, great movies, books about chefs and her own awesome cooking skills, great athletes, a wild performance story, and an incredible botanical garden (37:30).

Finishing with a Rave on the TV series Freaks and Geeks and the documentary on the show (01:12:25).

She-e Wu Links:

Part 1 with She-e Wu

She-e Wu’s Northwestern page

She-e Wu’s Majestic Percussion page

She’e Wu’s Innovative Percussion page

Other Links:

Robert Schietroma

Paul Rennick

Joseph Klein

Ed Soph

Brian West

Ellie Mannette

Paschal Younge

Phil Faini

Dafnis Prieto

“Two Mexican Dances” - Gordon Stout

Concertino for Marimba - Paul Creston

“Northern Lights” - Eric Ewazen

Keiko Abe

“Etude Op. 6, No. 10” - Clair Omar Musser

“Suite for Percussion” - Lou Harrison

“Third Construction” - John Cage

“Ostinato Pianissimo” - Henry Cowell

The Motorcycle Diaries trailer

The Lives of Others trailer

Mission Impossible: The Final Reckoning trailer

F1 trailer

Ratatouille trailer

Steph Curry

Federer: Twelve Final Days trailer

The Last Dance trailer

Raves:

Freaks and Geeks on Paramount Plus

Cultuershock - Freaks and Geeks: the Documentary

Percussionist, Performer, Freelancer, Educator, Composer, Instrument Designer, Clinician, and Director of Percussion Studies at Northwestern University (IL) She-e Wu stops by to talk about position at the university, getting the job, and how her passion for music and teaching fuels her career (04:30), what it takes to be performance ready at all times, and her work with instrument design for Majestic Percussion (35:15), growing up in Taiwan, getting involved in music, and her percussion and theater background (52:50), and her undergrad years at the University of North Texas, the challenges of being new to the United States at the time, and her deep connections with her percussion colleagues and professors at UNT (01:07:00).

Finishing with a Rave on the re-release of the 1975 film Jaws (01:26:45).

She-e Wu links:

She-e Wu’s Northwestern page

She-e Wu’s Majestic Percussion page

She-e Wu’s Innovative Percussion page

Previous Podcast Guests of note:

Matthew Coley in 2021

Renée Keller in 2018

Edward Choi in 2023

Andrea Venet in 2018

Jaime Esposito in 2020

Becca Laurito in 2023

Aaron Ragsdale 2017

Sarah Burke in 2018

Other Links:

Annie Stevens

Christopher Lamb

Charles Geyer

Mallory Thompson

Gail Williams

Michael Burritt

Matt Penland

Dave Weckl

Ed Soph

Paul Rennick

Jeff Prosperie

Keith Carlock

Jason Sutter

Bill Evans

J. B. Smith

Rick Rodriguez

Sandi Rennick

Brian West

Robert Schietroma

Raves:

Jaws 50th Anniversary trailer

Percussionist, Freelancer, Entrepreneur, Arts Administrator, and Assistant Dean for Professional Development and Personal Engagement at the San Francisco Conservatory of Music Kristen Klehr stops by to talk about her college teaching, creating one’s own arts ecosystem, and performing “Athletic Percussion” (03:25), growing up in Binghamton (NY), her musical background, NYSSMA, New York high school sports, and her dance background (24:10) attending Baldwin-Wallace College (OH) for undergrad, living above an Italian bakery, and advocating for students and colleagues (43:15), attending Florida State University for grad school, working with FSU’s orchestras, and singing while playing marimba (57:40), producing music festivals, starting her own business, and “betting on yourself” (01:11:10), and finishes with the Random Ass Questions, including segments on business philosophies, percussion triangles, impression, email signatures, NY food staples, and the Golden State Valkyries (01:33:05).

Finishing with a Rave on a recently attended live performance of Ozomatli during their 30th Anniversary tour (02:07:25).

Kristen Klehr’s links:

Kristen Klehr’s homepage

“I Remember Her” - Marimba/Voice arrangement

Previous Podcast Guests mentioned in the show:

Amanda Duncan in 2023

Third Coast Percussion Month in 2025

Joshua Simonds in 2022

Brian Calhoon in 2021

Andy Bliss in 2023

Victor Caccese in 2019

Other Links:

Scrap Arts Music

Joel Smales

Josh Ryan

African West Percussion Trio

Marc Damoulakis

Anne Hodges

Nancy Zeltsman

Lee Hinkle

Rosie CQ

Nief-Norf

Marin Alsop

Cabrillo Festival of Contemporary Music

RocketJump

Beth Morrison Projects

Mike Truesdell

Mr. Magorium’s Wonder Emporium trailer

Napoleon Dynamite trailer

The Confident Mind - Dr. Nate Zinsser

The Inner Game of Tennis - W. Timothy Gallwey

The Artist’s Way - Julia Cameron

Julie Vanloo

“Super Bass” - Nicki Minaj

Brozzetti’s Pizza

“Music for an Awful Lot of Winds and Percussion” - PDQ Bach

Raves:

Ozomatli

Fort Zumwalt West (MO) Percussion Director and Chapter President for the Missouri Percussive Arts Society Neil Flannigan stops by to talk about his teaching position (03:25), the MOPAS Presidency (21:40), growing up in STL, his percussion and guitar background, the band Rush, Southwind Drum and Bugle Corps, and working at Dierberg’s Grocery Store (31:00), attending St. Louis CC and the University of Missouri-St. Louis for undergrad, and meeting his eventual wife Jessie (47:30), his early teaching jobs, his decision not to follow the band director path, and landing his current position during COVID lockdown (01:00:00), and finishes with the Random Ass Questions, including discussions about setting boundaries, Indian food, Jurassic Park, puppetry, bourbon, and great visual art (01:27:00).

Finishing with a Rave on the classic George Eliot novel Middlemarch (02:03:20).

Neil Flannigan links:

Neil Flannigan’s Innovative Percussion page

Neil Flannigan’s SABIAN Cymbals page

Previous Podcast Guests mentioned:

Jessie Flannigan in 2025

Alex Smith in 2018

Alexandros Fragiskatos in 2021

Megan Arns in 2016

Josh Knight in 2017

Ivan Trevino in 2017

Matt Henry in 2017

Patricia Islas in 2021

Eric Willie in 2022

Other Links:

MMPAT

Nicole Hackel

Sebastian Buhts

St. Louis Wind Symphony

Michael Burritt

“Tom Sawyer” - Rush

“Smells Like Teen Spirit” - Nirvana

“When Doves Cry” - Prince

Southwind Drum and Bugle Corps

Jim Widner

“Fix You” - Coldplay

Jurassic Park trailer

The Martian trailer

The Martian - Andy Weir

Ghost Rider - Neil Peart

“I Want it That Way” - Backstreet Boys

Water Lilies - Claude Monet

Raves:

Middlemarch - George Eliot

Composer, Performer, Educator, Missouri PAS Treasurer, and Academic and Administrative Coordinator for the Music Department at Washington University (MO) Jessie Flannigan stops by to talk about how she manages and is successful with her large workload and schedule (03:35), all things Missouri PAS and updating the Prescribed Music List (16:35), growing up in St. Charles (MO), her early percussion experiences, and participating in German Club (31:05), attending the University of Missouri-St. Louis (UMSL) for undergrad, the family reasons for the delay of the finish of her degree, and living in rural Illinois (41:15), working for Mozingo Music, teaching marching band, and substitute teaching (54:45), working at UMSL in Music Administration and the differences in working there vs. WashU (01:01:15), and finishes with the Random Ass Questions, including segments on helping students prepare for college, great movies, The X-Files, impromptu djembe solos, The Linda Lindas, and the greatness of Matt Henry (01:08:10). 

Finishing with a Rave on Pete’s travels to the Canadian Percussion Network’s The Space Between IVconference (01:54:15).

Jessie Flannigan Links:

Jessie Flannigan’s website

“Street Spiders” - Jessie Flannigan

“Tiny” - Jessie Flannigan

Previous Podcast Guests Mentioned:

Matt Henry in 2017

Andrew Richardson in 2023

Nathan Daughtrey in 2016

Alexandros Fragiskatos in 2019

Alex Smith in 2018

Josh Knight in 2017

Other Links:

The X-Files

Metaphor Percussion

Richard Gipson

“Diabolic Variations” - Raymond Helble

The Palace of Nine Perfections - Eric Ewazen

“The Cry” - Nathan Daughtrey

Nathan Bushey

Shane Mizicko

Jim Widner

Blake Tyson

Ocean’s Eleven trailer

Out to Sea trailer

Field of Dreams trailer

Where There’s Smoke: The Musings of a Cigarette Smoking Man - William B. Davis

The Linda Lindas

Raves:

The Canadian Percussion Network

Composer, Percussionist, and Educator Michael Udow returns to talk about his year in Poland for a Fulbright Fellowship and what life was like there in the early 1970s (01:55), his path to getting to Michigan (including teaching at UMKC) and how he further developed an excellent program at Ann Arbor (11:55), and finishes with the Random Ass Questions, including discussions of travel, great books, the Detroit Red Wings, and great artists and art (44:45).

Finishing with a Rave on the 2025 film Sorry, Baby (01:14:00).

Michael Udow Links:

Part 1 with Michael Udow

Michael Udow’s Homepage

Percussion Pedagogy - Michael Udow

Previous Podcast Guests mentioned:

Dan Piccolo in 2020

Other Links:

Boguslaw Schaeffer

Herbert Brün

Krzysztof Penderecki

Witold Lutoslawski

Persephassa - Iannis Xenakis

“Ionisation” - Edgard Varése

Rita Blitt

Robert Altman

Keiko Abe

Charlie Owen

Russell Hartenberger

Bob Becker

Anthony Di Sanza

Teaching Percussion - Gary Cook

Artful Noise - Thomas Siwe

Cellist in Exile: A Portrait of Pablo Casals - Bernard Taper

Musicophilia - Oliver Sacks

Gordie Howe

We Come to the River - Hans Werner Henze

Giuseppe Arcimboldo

Raves:

Sorry, Baby IMDB page

Composer, Percussionist, and Retired Professor of Percussion from the University of Michigan Michael Udow stops by to talk about “reassignment”, living in Colorado and staying in good physical and mental shape, letting go of regularly performing on percussion, and his compositional career (03:35), growing up in Detroit, Wichita and Pennsylvania, switching to percussion from piano, and the wide-ranging history of his earlier percussion life (27:50), and his career of getting into freelancing and getting the Fulbright Fellowship to study in Poland (59:50).

Finishing with a Rave on the 2025 documentary Billy Joel: And So It Goes (01:12:05).

Pete’s new composition Calling

Michael Udow Links:

Michael Udow’s homepage

Percussion Pedagogy - Michael Udow

Previous Podcast Guests Mentioned:

Victoria Sparks in 2018

Steven Schick in 2025

Allen Otte in 2024

Other Links:

Judith Weir

Hans Werner Henze

Luciano Berio

Ney Rosauro

George Crumb

George Rochberg

Charles Wuorinen

Milton Babbitt

Bruce Miller

John Baldwin

Clyde Roller

Roger Roller

Michael Combs

Jack McKenzie

Paul Price

Michael Colgrass

Warren Benson

Thor Johnson

Thomas Siwe

Michael Ranta

“Zyklus” - Karlheinz Stockhausen

“Kontakte” - Karlheinz Stockhausen

Garry Kvistad

NEXUS

Michael Bookspan

Alan Abel

Russell Hartenberger

Fred Hinger

Saul Goodman

Bill Cahn

Mark Sunkett

J.B. Smith

Richard Brown

“Knocking Piece” - Ben Johnston

“The King of Denmark” - Morton Feldman

Michael Brecker

“Triple Duo” - Elliott Carter

BlackEarth Percussion Group

Al O’Connor

Raves:

Billy Joel: And So It Goes trailer

Billy Joel: And So It Goes album on Spotify

Alongside fellow podcaster Damon Grant from Discussions in Percussion, we interview vibraphonist, drummer, and bandleader Terry Gibbs about the Dream Band and Terry Pollard (05:30), an eventual interview introduction, his autobiography, and his early life and career (09:45), the beginnings of bebop and his work on Latin Jazz music (21:00), hanging out with jazz legends, stories about Benny Goodman, and how he dealt with money negotiation (34:15), Buddy Rich, a legendary 2-bar drum fill, and working and learning from Woody Herman (46:05), addiction issues within the jazz community, more about the Dream band recordings, how/when he met his recently passed wife Rebekah, and work on an upcoming documentary about his life (01:04:45).

Finishing with a Rave on Terry Gibbs’s 2003 autobiography Good Vibes (01:25:40).

Links:

Terry Gibbs’ website

Good Vibes: A Life in Jazz - Terry Gibbs with Cary Ginell

Terry Gibbs Dream Band on Spotify

Terry Gibbs with Terry Pollard in 1956

“Queer Street” - Count Basie

Stefon Harris

Warren Wolf

Sydney Greenstreet

Peter Lorre

The Latin Connection - Terry Gibbs

El Latino - Terry Gibbs

Washington State University Professor of Percussion, Assistant Professor of Music, Marching Band Drumline Director, and recording artist Christopher Wilson stops by to talk about his recently released album of David Maslanka’s marimba solos called A Solemn Music (03:10), his job at WSU and recruiting in that part of the state (25:25), growing up in Iowa, Iowa-specific music experiences, and his time doing DCI (44:30), attending Eastern Washington University for undergrad, as well as a discussion of his related experiences on the track team in high school (53:35), studying with Nancy Zeltsman at Berklee College of Music (MA), living and working in Boston, and working in Iowa and Wisconsin (01:03:15), his years studying for the doctorate at the University of Northern Colorado (01:17:45), and finishes with the Random Ass Questions, including segments on specializing too early, working in music retail, great and bad movies, great books, Chicago sports, and inspiring artists (01:31:00).

Finishing with a Rave about Pete’s experiences touring with the Long Island Youth Orchestra (LIYO) in early July (01:57:25).

Christopher Wilson links:

Christopher Wilson’s homepage

Christopher Wilson’s WSU page

Solemn Music - Christopher’s album of David Maslanka’s marimba music

Previous Podcast Guests mentioned:

Andrew Eldridge in 2022

William Moersch in 2019

Casey Cangelosi in 2017

Eriko Daimo in 2025

Fernando Meza in 2020

Other Links:

Jon Melcher

Woodcuts - Nancy Zeltsman

Bach on Marimba - Leigh Howard Stevens

Waking Dreams - Michael Burritt

Jacqueline Wilson

A.J. Miller

Shane Mizicko

Dave Jarvis

Darryl Singleton

Jennifer Bellor

Spectrum Ensemble

Brett EE Paschal

Seattle Cascades

“Two Movements for Marimba” - Toshimitsu Tanaka

“Etude for a Quiet Hall” - Christopher Deane

Concerto for Marimba and Strings - Ney Rosauro

Etude in E Minor - Pius Cheung

“A Little Prayer” - Evelyn Glennie

Benjamin Zander

West Music

Percussion Source

Douglas Walter

Jim White

Jay Contrino

Matt Coleman

Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind trailer

My Big Fat Greek Wedding 2 trailer

The Big Leap - Gay Hendricks

The Talent Code - Daniel Coyle

The Lord of the Rings - J.R.R. Tolkien

Jersey Shore: Season 1 highlights

Real Housewives - Most Dramatic Vacations

Vanderpump Rules - Most Dramatic Moments

Chicago Cubs 2016 Championship

Iowa Hawkeye Football 2016-2019

St. Louis Tionól

“Rock Box” - Run-DMC

Whitney Museum of American Art

Laura Ortman

k I t e artist

Raves:

Long Island Youth Orchestra