Carl Banks and Bob Papa welcome two-time Giants Super Bowl champion Phil Simms to the show. They discuss Phil's insights from the pro days and the narratives that often develop around them. The conversation explores Phil’s perspective on quarterbacks like Cam Ward, Shedeur Sanders, and Jalen Milroe, as he evaluates their college performances and overall talent. They also talk about what the quarterback room might look like with Russell Wilson, Jameis Winston, and Tommy DeVito.In addition, they emphasize the importance of improvement from season to season and delve into issues faced by other teams, particularly the Steelers. The discussion about quarterbacks continues with thoughts on Tyler Shough, Quinn Ewers, Dillon Gabriel, Kyle McCord, and Will Howard.The episode concludes with a conversation about why the Super Bowl MVP should acknowledge both an offensive and a defensive player.

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