“To have freedom you have to give something up, to have love — to experience love as an action — there has to be something that you're willing to sacrifice…” 

Ours is the epic and lyrical debut novel by poet Phillip B. Williams, featuring unforgettable characters woven together with folklore and humanity’s search for freedom. Williams joined us to talk about how his characters shaped the story, the influences of poetry on his prose, including myths and legends and more with Miwa Messer, the host of Poured Over.  

This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Executive Producer Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang.                   

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Featured Books (Episode):

Ours by Phillip B. Williams 

Mutiny by Phillip B. Williams 

Blindness by José Saramago 

One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez 

Cannibal by Safiya Sinclair