The presocratics are know as the first Philosophers, at least in the western world and according to written history.

They asked the question "what's the world made of at its most basic and fundamental level?"

Little of their works remains intact today but what does survive tells of a fundamentally different worldview than ours today.

They're answers to the question of what's the world made of, and their views on their understanding of those answers, underscores just how radically different our worldviews are.

Where today we have strong lines between notions of the secular and the sacred, their material bases for the fundamental constituent(s) of the world were seen as either divine, eternal, or infinite or all of the above!

Whether it was Pythagoras' mathematical universe, Thales' water, Anaximander's apeiron (boundless, indefinite, infinite), Heraclitus' logos, - even the infinite atoms and the void of the atomists - they all shared a sense of the infinite.

This sense of the infinite may prove to be a lasting and important through line from the wisdom of ancient times to our modern living if we are to live whole and meaningful lives.

Join Hypatia and Pandora for a laid-back, free-flowing conversation on Robin Waterfield's The First Philosophers: The Presocratics and Sophists, where we discuss the section on the presocratics... and whatever else happened to pop into our heads.