Two games, and two losses to start off Phoenix Rising’s USL Championship title defense for 2024. It’s not ideal, and compounded by a very poor performance away to Monterey Bay. But with Oakland and New Mexico at home around the corner, what work does Danny Stone need to accomplish with his Rising squad to get the most out of Panos Armenakas and Rémi Cabral?

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It wasn’t pretty. At all. Phoenix Rising has still yet to find the back of the net after the first two matches, and remains without a point. Tonight, it was Monterey Bay who managed to capitalize on a poor José Hernandez giveaway in the first half.

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After falling at home to Birmingham Legion last week, Phoenix Rising is looking for redemption in their first road trip of the year. Up this weekend? It’s Monterey Bay, managed by former Rising coach Frank Yallop. Can Rising, with a recovering Remi Cabral and newly-signed Ryan Flood, take home all three points?

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With one week of action down, join Owain Evans for a quick look at the headlines from around USL Championship, and hear Backheeled and USL Tactics' John Morrissey break down the main takeaways from the opening fixtures.

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It wasn’t the start to the title defense that they’d have hoped for, but Phoenix Rising dropped its opener against Birmingham Legion 1-0. Now, with Frank Yallop and Monterey Bay on the horizon, what will Danny Stone’s Rising side have to do to step up and pick up their first victory of the 2024 campaign?

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Phoenix Rising’s title reminiscing was interrupted with a 1-0 loss to Birmingham Legion.

A frantic first half led to numerous chances in which Rising easily could’ve been down. Despite a strong second half push, a wayward deflection sealed the match for the visitors.

Join Max Simpson and Owain Evans for tonight’s post-match recap.

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With a star above the crest, Phoenix Rising’s first season as defending champions starts now. Up first? Tom Soehn’s Birmingham Legion side, complete with up-and-coming midfielder Matthew Corcoran. Will Danny Stone’s side, led by loan striker Remi Cabral and bolstered by the return of Rocco Rios Novo, pick up three points in the home opener?

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Less than one week remains until Phoenix Rising takes the field at 38th Street and Washington for its first competitive clash of the year. Will Rising successfully defend their USL Championship title, and who are new head coach Danny Stone and captain John Stenberg going to come up against this year?

Join Max Simpson and Owain Evans to break down the latest from across the league.

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Phoenix Rising is coming off a uneventful 0-0 draw against Las Vegas Lights. What can we learn from their penultimate preseason friendly? What can Rising fans look forward to in the week ahead?

Join Owain Evans and Max Simpson on another episode of the PHNX Rising Podcast.

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Does anybody even know what’s going on any more? Once again, Major League Soccer has decided to throw a tantrum about sending its teams to the U.S. Open Cup, throwing the tournament into doubt. Meanwhile, USL has confirmed that all of its clubs will compete as originally planned. So what’s going to happen about it?

Join Max Simpson and Owain Evans to break it all down, plus a rundown of the latest from Phoenix Rising’s preseason preparations.

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