Jamie Leary, Design Director, Philadelphia Magazine (formerly of Magnet, Decibel and Grid magazines) designs for a magazine that is more popular in my city than National Geographic, Vanity Fair, Men’s Health and Forbes, according to [their circulation #’s](https://www.phillymag.com/media-kit/philadelphia-magazine/).

In our discussion today, Jamie and I (your host, [Neil Binkley](https://www.neilbinkley.com)) talk about:

* Magazine Art budgets

* My incredibly brief tenure as Director of Photography at my guest’s magazine

* How he hired someone to shoot a cover story, inspired by that photographer’s Instagram photos

* Hiring locals vs. hiring around the country

* Illustration vs. photography

* Photojournalism vs. Conceptual photography

* Photographers’ websites, and what he likes to see

* And we even investigate a mysterious heart attack…

* This and much, much more.

Links to What We Discuss:

Magazines & Related:

* [Philadelphia Magazine’s “Best of Philly” cover](https://www.phillymag.com/news/2018/07/21/philadelphia-magazine-august-2018-best-of-philly-sneak-peek/)

* [New York magazine](http://nymag.com)

* [The Curtis Building](https://www.associationforpublicart.org/artwork/the-dream-garden/)

* [Norman Rockwell cover for The Saturday Evening Post](https://www.pinterest.com/pin/130182245462568496/)

* [The New York Times Magazine](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/26/magazine/behind-the-cover-design.html)

* [Texas Monthly](https://www.texasmonthly.com)

* The New York Times Magazine’ “Infrastructure” covers [One](https://www.pinterest.com/pin/395190936028673576/) and [Two](https://arrestedmotion.com/2009/06/focus-thomas-doyle-x-new-york-times-magazine/), plus [a more recent Photoillustration](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/07/magazine/behind-the-cover-the-music-issue.html) on the cover

* [Philadelphia Magazine’s “The New Rich”](https://www.phillymag.com/news/2018/05/19/philadelphia-magazine-june-2018-sneak-peek/)

* [Neil’s Pinterest Page of Outstanding Magazine and Book Covers](https://www.pinterest.com/neilbinkley/magazine-book-covers/)

Photographers, Photo Editors & A Stylist:

* [Kathy Ryan, The New York Times Magazine’s Dir. of Photography, photography book](https://aperture.org/shop/office-romance/)

* [Jonathan Pushnik](http://www.pushnikphoto.com)

* [Claudia Gavin/Philadelphia Magazine’s Photo Editor](http://cgavinphotography.com/tears)

* [Bobby Doherty/New York Magazine’s former Director of Photography](https://bobbydoherty.net)

* [Justin James Muir](https://www.justinjamesmuir.com)

* [Jason Varney](http://varneyphoto.com)

* [Lindsey Foret, stylist](https://www.linkedin.com/in/lindsay-foret-7288499/)

* [Matt Stanley](https://www.mattstanleyphoto.com)

* [Gene Smirnov](https://www.genesmirnov.com)

* [Chris Crisman](https://www.crismanphoto.com)

* [Adam Voorhes](https://www.voorhes.com/TEARSHEETS/COVERS-&-EDITORIAL/55)

* [Dan Saelinger](https://www.dansaelinger.com)

* [Clint Blowers](https://www.clintblowers.com)

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Wylie Moran, Senior Art Producer and Freelance Producer (formerly of BBDO, JWT, and The Martin Agency) comes on the first full episode of Photopod! She sits down with me (your host, [Neil Binkley](https://www.neilbinkley.com)) to discuss how advertising agency Art Producers find photographers, why they hire them, whether photographers need to have motion work in their portfolio, and much, much more.

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Show Notes/Links:

* [Wylie's website](https://wyliemoran.wixsite.com/portfolio) has samples of her work. Check out the many excellent photographers she's worked with on [her bio page](https://wyliemoran.wixsite.com/portfolio/bio).

* Benjamin Moore campaigns she worked on, as mentioned in [Adweek magazine](https://www.adweek.com/creativity/new-ads-benjamin-moore-wonders-if-its-selling-paint-or-something-else-entirely-170414/). [The tv spots were nicely done](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-srrALix4o), as well (I know, this is a photo podcast – but I can still appreciate good work).

A few places that Wylie worked:

* [BBDO](https://www.bbdo.com)

* [JWT](https://www.jwt.com/en/newyork)

* [The Martin Agency](https://martinagency.com)

* [Tierney](http://hellotierney.com)

Creative industry podcast that I mentioned, plus a few more that I didn't but you might find relevant:

* [Don't Get Me Started](https://www.oneclub.org/podcasts/) (interviews with ad agency founders, Creative Directors, etc.)

* [NION Radio](https://nionlife.com/podcasts/) (photographer Nick Onken's interviews with great photographers and others about their paths to success)

* [The Observatory](https://designobserver.com/podcast-the-observatory.php) (Michael Bierut – of [Pentagram](https://www.pentagram.com) fame – and Jessica Helfand thoughtfully discuss design in all its manifestations)

Welcome to the preview episode of Photopod, hosted by Neil Binkley. Photopod is a new interview podcast about the photography industry. In this trailer, hear snippets of interviews with Nike's former Photography Director, a Senior Art Producer, plus a magazine's Design Director.

Send questions and ideas for future interviews by visiting [www.neilbinkley.com/photopod](http://www.photopodpod.com).