PHP Town Hall

This week Ben Edmunds is joined by new guest David Stanley and recurring guest Don Gilbert to discuss the latest Joomla! framework licensing drama. Phil was too busy having a real world life to join us this week, boo!

Don does a great job of articulating why switching the Joomla! Framework to an LGPL license would be best for everyone and just might cure cancer. Ben tries to play devil’s advocate but eventually can’t even maintain the ruse. David talks now and then, mostly about his new found love of the AeroPress.

Don recommends you check out Gitter.IM and PageKit.

David says you should start using AngularJS and Foundation if you want to be one of the cool kids.

Ben promotes DivShot and hasn’t received any sponsorship money yet hint hint.

This week author of “Vagrant CookBook” Érika Heidi and serial usergroup creator Rafael Dohms join the show to

We cover a lot of conversation connected to Vagrant and some of its upcoming features and functionality. We also talk

This weeks questions from the audience:

What are your thoughts on using Bash as a provisioner? Why or why not use it?

Thoughts on the new github Atom editor

Trying out a slightly more professional format with questions, Phil manages to avoid talking over everyone. Winner!

This show has a history of talking about FIG stuff as it is hard to avoid. The group is working on so much cool stuff

We discussed each of their projects, some of the plans for the future, specifically whats coming up in Guzzle 4 and

See, it all fits!

What are your thoughts on using Bash as a provisioner? Why or why not use it?

Thoughts on the new github Atom editor

Beau & Michael, you’ve both been managing open source packages (OSP) for a few years. What’s the best and worst part of managing an OSP?

@Michael do you think a simple HTTP Server interface would fit PSR-7? That would be a good replacement for StackPHP, no?

I’m curious about how this HTTP client relates to the pecl/http extension. There’s been talk in the past of including that extension in the core.

What different circumstances dictate how long a PSR takes to get from proposal to blessed by FIG?

So, plenty for you folks to watch here on the YouTube video!

Well known PHP/Laravel nice-guy Jeffrey Way from NetTuts and Laracasts joins regular guest Zack Kitzmiller to

Joe Watkins and Sara Goleman join Phil to make one hell of an episode. These two are not only core contributors to PHP, but are behind a lot of RFCs and decisions that make PHP considerably better. We talk about a whole bunch of awesome stuff, including progress of the named parameters RFC - and the chances of it making in, the new accepted PHP 5.6 feature PHPDBG and what it means for you, HHVM and its relationship to “The PHP”, wether PHP should have a spec for implementations of the language, and a whole bunch of other stuff.

Sara knows a thing or two about HHVM because she helped build it.

Joe knows a thing or two about PHPDBG because he helped build it.

So basically… THEY’RE SMARTER THAN YOU ARE SO LISTEN TO THEM DAMMIT!

Cal Evans talks with us about some of the great projects he is (and has) been involved with, including training days, writing books, speaking, organising conferences and a bunch more.

Seriously, this guy has done a shitload of stuff:

More relevant links:

Annoyingly in this episode Google Hangouts decided to keep the focus aimed squarely on Phil for the entire show, instead of following the sound of whoever is talking. Nobody needs that much of Phil’s face so we’re skipping the video in this post. It’s mostly just Phil wandering around, drinking two different drinks at the same time, probably picking his nose a bit, who knows.

Taylor Otwell comes back on the show for a second time and regular guest Zack Kitzmiller turns up to coerce Taylor

Taylor was the first guest we ever had on PHP Town Hall talking about his plans for Laravel 4 before it was even released, so it gives us a great opportunity to look back on the year and see how things have gone. We discuss the changes to Laravel and it’s community, and discuss how various changes in the PHP ecosystem (like PHP 5.3 support becoming less of a demand) could effect Laravel 4.1.

We also argue about Go and fight about Vagrant and Chef for a bit.

The wonderfully handsome Don Gilbert joins us on our new YouTube Channel for our first live-recording of PHP Town Hall!

He’s been working on the Joomla Framework to get it up to scratch with modern standards ready for a Joomla CMS rewrite, much in the same way that EllisLab pulled CodeIgniter out of ExpressionEngine… except for the standards bit, because they didn’t exist and PHP developers were too busy clubbing each other to death over tabs v spaces.

We discuss how that whole situation is going, how they’ve been implementing various standards, how did they decide to build a framework instead of use an existing one, how the FIG is going and why Phil fucked up the PSR-4 Acceptance Vote three hours before the vote finished.

The next will be done November 18th, 2013 at 9:30pm EST.

This episode Ben and Phil are joined by Lee Tengum, who has sold more apps

We got Lee on to share some of his success stories of building small, simple, useful products that do not

Some episodes of this show are brought to you after more beers than others. This is one of those episodes where its more, so if you don’t like swearing and listening to a slightly confused Bristolian ramble about points he occasionally forgets then you might want to skip this one.

Regardless Ben, Zack K. and Phil discuss the difference between PHP’s organisational structure and lack of BDFL with that of Rails, or Linux. We then discuss service-orientated architecture a little and move onto how you should not box yourself into a single programming language - on your CV or in general as a programmer.