PHP Town Hall

Your two favourite PHP developers are joined this episode by Emir Karşıyakalı off of PHPKonf and IstanbulPHP.

Istanbul is not only a beautiful and awesome city, but it’s got a thriving PHP community too, who are currently hosting a whole bunch of PHP stars for their annual conference.

Once again we promised to get this up before the conference to advertise it, and we’re releasing this audio version the night before, but what can we say… we’re shit at this.

After a little hiatus Phil and Ben back at it, joined this time by Paul Dragoonis and Vance Lucas.

Paul does some fairly call stuff, manages the PPI framework and contributes to building the actual PHP.net website, the poor sod. Paul is also the winner in the “PHP developers from the UK who are hard to understand” contest two years running, only beating Phil to the title due to being slightly better at handling his booze.

Vance works at NetSuite and has open-sourced a bunch of code things, most notably phpdotenv and frisby.

We all have a little natter, share some of our horror stories from projects including PHP.net, and talk about Phil’s recent blog post about how hard it is to be a famous PHP rockstar guru.

This episode is brought to you from thunderstruck Dallas, as part of the awesome conference that is Lone Star PHP. We are joined once again by the dynamic duo Jeff Carouth and Matt Frost off of the Loosely Coupled podcast!

We mostly make a bunch of bad jokes then drag up the audience to talk about stuff. Lets be honest, this was a bit of a crapshoot, but Elizabeth Smith goes into some detail on PECL and the problems of ownership. PSR-7 is chatted about for the 19th time and Jordi talks a bit about pickles.

Also, we debate “haytch” vs. “atch” as the correct pronunciation of the “H” in HTTP. Important stuff.

Audio only this time folks!

Regular guest Anthony Ferrara joins us “in the studio” to talk about the new version of his scalar type hints, which since recording - a f**king month ago - has been accepted for PHP 7.

We thought it would be good to have a bit of a chat about the feature, the nonsense that surrounded it and a bunch of other random internals and PHP 7 related blathering.

Phil and Ben catch up with Josh Lockhart who has been on the show a few times before.

Josh is involved in some great projects and interested in some new tools, which all kinda wind in together. PHP, FIG, League, etc.

We touch on a few topics, and really this one is just a fun fluid chat with a really relaxed guest.

We all know that SunshinePHP is one of the PHP communities finest conferences. It attends an amazing group of people, wonderful speakers and Rasmus usually pops in for a drive-by-keynote.

Every conference Phil or Ben attend has some vague promise of “yeah we’ll probably try and do a recording there or something,” but this SunshinePHP we actually did it, all thanks to the wonderful Sammy K off of PHP Roundtable.

The topic this time around was that of APIs, and we were joined by an all star panel:

Watch this. It’s hilarious.

Shownotes are lacking, because we clearly weren’t writing anything down.

Two awesome guests join this week, from two different framework projects, both who have been very vocal about their interest in PSR-7: HTTP Message. These two chaps were Hari K T and Matthew Weier O’Phinney.

Now PSR chats can be a little boring when its about autoloading or tabs v bloody spaces, but this PSR could have some really big impact on the way you write PHP over the next few years.

We talk a bunch about Aura and Zend and their plans around middlewares, what motivated Matthew to get involved with taking over PSR-7, what middlewares mean for PHP in general and some of the concerns that have been fixed in recent iterations of the PSR like mutability, streams, etc.

There also a bit of chat about turtles, standing desks and broken ribs, while Phil slowly goes loopy on pain killers.

The grass is always greener on the other side, but we have a little talk with Gary Hockin and regular guest Jacques Woodcock about the pros and cons of going up and down the chain of command in the developer world. After all, it doesn’t just need to be a one-way street.

We also talk about a few general bits, like whether PHP 5.7 should have happened, should we cry over spilled constructors and Gary bangs on for ages about how Waterfall is better than Agile.

This is a big one. We’ve had Chris “The Grumpy Programmer” Hartjes and Ed “The Grumpy Podcaster” Finkler on our show before, but this time they both join us for a mashup!

We talk about the perils of being opinionated people speaking in public. Chris basically just says fuck Reddit and all of its minions of evil, and Phil gives a bit of insight into why he gets stuck in so many arguments.

We move on to chatting about PHP, and how people feel about a strong new demand for more async features. Is it better to leave that to other tools, or should we try and fit some into the language itself, and the ecosystem around it?

The last chunk of this podcast ends with a discussion around CodeIgniter 3.0 supporting PHP 5.2 and up. Should it be higher? Is it feckless to release like this? Should this be a documentation change to warn users away or a hard change to make it not even work there?

Also, who has the best beard? Hint: it isn’t Phil.

This episode we’re joined by two two top CakePHPers Jose Diaz-Gonzalez and

Ben is AWOL, Phil is insanely jet-lagged and has no idea what he is talking about. Our awesome guests try their best to carry Phil through the show, where we discuss exciting new stuff happening with CakePHP, and what we think of a few current RFCs being discussed in PHP land.

We also talk a bit about Monga, a League package which Bryan has now assumed the role of project lead.

It took a while to get this one out, but the next recording will be December 28th and it’s going to be a Christmas mash-up with /dev/hell.

Now that Phil has stopped being homeless we’re going to get more regular, and drastically improve the quality of this podcast. Do not miss out!