How much time does it actually take for primary care physicians and specialists to deliver care, and should time be considered when determining payment? When it comes to physician performance, are we measuring what's truly important or just analyzing quality data that's readily available? Will new CMS rules governing E/M coding help or hinder the practice of medicine? In this episode, Dr. Gordon Moore talks with self-proclaimed healthcare contrarian Dr. Robert Berenson, a Fellow with the Urban Institute, about how to reform our current inefficient healthcare delivery system.