Physio+10

Barry's Dad was a scholar, his Mum a machinist, both parents were immigrants and he was a confessed computer geek and introvert, so communicating the nuances of pain as a Physio was going to be an uphill battle. And it was.

In this episode, Barry talks about;

• the challenges of coming from a Vietnamese culture where touch is not considered the norm and Physio was largely unknown
• how Physio was so tough that he nearly stopped
• starting in private practice as an employee and only seeing a few clients a day
• starting his own side business, and the challenges of working in several GP clinics with a bottle of gel and portable plinth
• how he developed his own PMS to manage appointments, (pre-Cliniko) and then sold it
• how he realised that Physio as a business wasn’t scalable, and he developed alternative ways to build his $$ income
• misconception of employees about the ease of being an employer
• how during COVID completed a boot camp for software engineers and since then has created some IT/Physio software startups
• how AI will integrate into health practice to reduce admin and other repeated tasks
• types of intelligence, fluid and crystalised and who has which

In Podcast mentions

• Cliniscribe
• Sleep Mastery
• Steve Jobs by Walter Issacson 
• Mastery by Robert Greene 
• How to Win Friends & Influence People by Dale Carnegie

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At 10 years of age, Jason had his first 'God' moment while watching Saturday morning cartoons, and this moment has guided his decisions ever since.

Jason was a reluctant practice owner promising his wife would never own a practice. Yet he grew his garage-based business to 140 locations and kicked the anthill called franchising. He only left his garage when his wife suggested the driveway wasn't the most professional of waiting rooms. His business, Back in Motion eventually sold for around $100 million. 

For $200 Jason recommends the following books;

1. Michael Gerber - The E-Myth (Revisited)
2. John Maxwell - The 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership
3. Bob Buford - Halftime: Moving from Success to Significance 

Jason's message to younger Physios is to consider developing;

• clinical excellence
• leadership skills
• understand the importance of commercial paradigms 

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Biography
Jason is a dynamic businessman and award-winning leadership expert in high demand. Failed medical missionary, reluctant businessman, unqualified franchisor, all leading to accidental founder and CEO of Australia's largest physiotherapy network at the time, the Back In Motion Health Group, creating an unlikely success that surprises him even more than those around him.

Ernst Young entrepreneur-of-the-year, Jason believes the opportunity of a lifetime comes around about once a day. He made a career out of getting it wrong more than he got it right - but knowing when he did get it right, how to repeat it over and again. More street-smart than book-smart, he never wanted a business, and yet ended up with over 140 of them supported by a team of 700+ and eventually selling for over $100m. He started six brands over 20 years and closed or sold five of them. 

Initially, a leader by chance, Jason has now mentored over 1,000 others like him through the Iceberg Leadership Institute. A regular contributor on business, leadership, and health-related topics, you can hear his thoughts on podcasts, television, radio, and online channels. Whilst he has written a few internationally-acclaimed books, he prefers to read those of others. 

Having presented to over 60,000 people internationally, Jason feels there is more at stake in small intimate groups where he can't hide the whites of his eyes from the very same he is engaging. Director on many boards, chairman of a few. Socially conservative; economically liberal, compassionately capitalistic, and politically disillusioned. Giving time and resources to numerous social initiatives to empower the poorest of the world's poor, his future is now in missional philanthropy. 

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On balance, Jonathan wasn't meant to be a Physiotherapist. More likely an auto mechanic (family trend), professional drummer (first 10 years of work), scuba diving instructor or water sports co-ordinator (next 10 years of work). Yet he found himself at a tipping point in his early 30's. Offered an exclusive, highly paid all-inclusive job as a dive master on a liveaboard boat based in idyllic Seychelles OR stay in wet and cold England, scrimping and living in nursing quarters while studying hard for several years and maybe having a job at the end of it.

We talk about life before and after this pivotal decision, touching on subjects;

• the importance of short and long-term vision
• what are the one percenters you can do to stand out from the rest
• what are new graduate's expectations and are they helpful
• what skills and traits does a well balanced Physiotherapist have

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Specific mentions in the conversation
Sleep Mastery Course - learn how to integrate sleep education into clinical practice
Louis Gifford's books - Aches & Pains, Nerve Root, Graded Exposure
Strive & Thrive in Private Practice online course

Biography
Jonathan Wray is FACP is a Specialist Musculoskeletal Physiotherapist (as awarded by the Australian College of Physiotherapists 2020) and director and principal physiotherapist at Next Wave Therapy. He was a clinical tutor on the Masters of Clinical Physiotherapy at Curtin University for 7 years and is currently a facilitator for physiotherapists undergoing specialisation training with the Australian College of Physiotherapists. Jonathan is the current chair of the WA Acupuncture and Dry Needling specialist interest group and course presenter for the APA Level 1 Dry Needling course and Level 1 Integrative Acupuncture course.

Outside of work, Jonathan is married with 2 teenage children and as a keen surfer, kite surfer and scuba diver likes to be in the water as much as possible.

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Adnan has a couple of unique physio-moulding stories. Firstly, Adnan grew up in KL Malaysia where his parents owned a sports store, and afternoons after school were spent 'testing'  all the sports gear. Secondly, his younger brother drowned in a fish pond, but fortunately, Adnan was able to pull him out and he was later revived in hospital. 

Adnan has sped through an undergraduate degree, 3 Master's qualifications and co-owns two clinics with 25+ staff. He has also been heavily involved in committees, boards and elite sports for a decade. 

During our conversation, Adnan reflects on;

• when is the ideal time to start a Masters qualification 
• the benefits of being involved in committees
• his internal motivator 
• his standard answer to a request
• his #1 hot tip for building your list in a competitive practice

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Biography
Adnan Asger Ali is the co-founder and principal physiotherapist of Accelerate Physiotherapy in Canberra. A dual-titled physiotherapist, Adnan has completed postgraduate studies in musculoskeletal physiotherapy and pain medicine. He is the current chair of the APA Musculoskeletal Group and is passionate about manual therapy as well as the breadth and depth of the physiotherapy profession.

On top of his clinical work at Accelerate, he has been a tournament physiotherapist at The Australian Open since 2022, delivered manual handling training for Corporate Work Health Australia to numerous government and private companies and acts as a tutor and lecturer on APA courses, on top of being named the Allied Health Award's Physiotherapist of the Year for 2023, proving that physiotherapy is a diverse profession with many options for early career physios if they are willing to think out of the box! 

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Michael comes from a strong medical pedigree, and with his high level of sports participation and associated injuries, developed an early awareness of Physiotherapy, and specifically sports. These were the very early days of sports physiotherapy, there were no post-graduate courses, Cybex had just arrived and mentors were critical. 

After a short period working in a dedicated sports clinic in Adelaide, a new opportunity arose in Melbourne as a clinician and investor in a sports clinic. This pattern repeats several times in Michael's life. Meet someone, be offered a new opportunity, and take it on. Repeat. From clinician to investor, to business manager, owner of single to multiple clinics and then into Stem Cell Therapy and writing a book.

Michael's journey has touched on so many of the possible realms in which a Physiotherapist can move. He shares his thoughts on;

• taking risks
• the two common challenges he sees facing practitioners
• his most out-on-the-limb decision and the outcome of it and 
• where he sees Physiotherapy heading in the next few years.

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Resources Mentioned
The Health Practitioner's Journey

Biography
Michael Kenihan is a sports physiotherapist, business manager, administrator, entrepreneur, innovator, teacher and thought leader in the health and sport sectors.
 
Michael’s experience as the general manager of Australia’s largest allied health network LifeCare Health (now part of the public company Zenitas Ltd,) executive of IPN (a publicly listed general practice network) and creator of the start-up online education company Kalsi P/L, demonstrates his wide-range of interests and abilities.
 
Michael is now a director, owner and manager at Melbourne Stem Cell Centre and the stem cell laboratory Magellan Stem Cells. Additionally, Michael, with business partner and founder Gareth Adams, has started a technology app R-U-Ontrak to assist individuals track their progress towards a meaningful goal, such as recovery from an injury. The app helps users build a community of support to keep them motivated and tracks activities using progress milestones.
 
Michael is also a business consultant to allied health practitioners and practices through his business MK Health Business Consulting.

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Jon's passion for helping people has been a common thread. As a clinician providing F2F care, as a researcher ensuring he is providing evidence-informed care, as an educator by spreading this knowledge and as a company director gather similar-minded clinicians, collaborating across disciplines and raising money to fund clinically focused research. Plus, he spends 6 months knee-deep in seawater, coaching juniors in surf life-saving.

In our conversation, Jon shares a common pathway; graduation, hospital rotations, overseas work/travel, and returning to Australia to get serious. But he was ahead of the curve and with a chronic pain referral base, a room and several thousand articles, he developed in isolation, a model of management in the early 1990s for this group of patients. This approach was to arrive later on the Physio treatment horizon and was called the bio-psycho-social model.

Throughout his clinical and research careers, Jon has sought to further his understanding of pain management through self-education (completed Master's, PhD and Specialisation) and collaboration (Managing Director of Advance Healthcare with 60 doctors, physios and psychologists on staff).

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Resources Mentioned
World Congress LBP & Pelvis Keynote address
Geoff Maitland Interview with Mark Jones (1600 views, Dec 2023)

Biography
In the early 90s whilst lecturing at The University of Melbourne Jon began developing evidence-based treatment models for people with back pain.  He subsequently established Spinal Management Clinics (part of the LifeCare group) which became one of the leading providers of physiotherapy and multi-disciplinary pain management programs in Australia. In 2014 to enable a greater focus on improving clinical quality and research, Jon with the practitioners below, purchased and rebranded the clinics as Advance Healthcare. 

Jon graduated as a physiotherapist in 1988 and then completed his Credentialing in Mechanical Diagnosis and Therapy in 1999, his Musculoskeletal Master's in 2000, his PhD on the classification of low back pain in 2005 and in 2018 graduated in the first-ever cohort of Pain Specialists (as a Fellow of the College of Physiotherapists). This demonstrates Jon’s passion for lifelong learning in order to help practitioners and patients achieve their potential.

Jon's clinical and research interest is the individualised treatment of musculoskeletal pain (with a focus on low back pain).   He continues his academic work leading the Low Back Pain Research Team at La Trobe University where he has published over 60 peer-reviewed journal articles. His academic work provides a constant source of evidence-based knowledge that is integrated into

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Libby and I shared undergraduate and later on post-graduate training together. I have always admired her tenacity and conviction to go her own way. In our conversation, Libby described how a range of strategic decisions she made through her career, have now culminated in financial independence so that in her 50s (another strategic goal) she can do the things she wants to do.

• Which country to live in - partly for tax reasons
• Where and why she would undertake her training
• To open her own clinic with her husband and in so doing started a new way of treating clients that has become a norm today
• Investing in positively geared real estate, against a trend and general advice, as a way to generate passive income
• Developing skills and experience to enable her to sidestep into a parallel career

As we come to the end of our conversation, we look back and realise that the early decision of having to choose between a career in health, economics or architecture, was not necessary and that with time all three have inadvertently been achieved.

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Biography
Libby Soderholm is a Non-Executive Director, Consultant, and Sports Physiotherapist with experience in governance and leadership.  

Her passion is clinical governance and leadership in business and organizations. She has a Diploma in Business Management and is a graduate of the Australian Institute of Company Directors.  Having done extensive Business consulting and lecturing in her field. Libby is the Australian Representative for IPPTA, the International Private Physical Therapy Association.  She is Chair of the South Coastal Health and Community Services Board and also sits on the risk and finance committee.  She is a board member for Curtin Heritage Living, which provides Aged Care, retirement living, dementia care and home care.  She is involved with the Australian Physiotherapy Association and sits on a variety of National committees such as the Business National Group, Leadership and Management, and the Western Australian APA Branch Council.

Libby has worked in governance in a variety of sectors including Health, Regulation (Ahpra) and Education boards.  In 2001 Libby was the proud recipient of the Kim Beasley “Service to the Community” Award.  Libby also worked at the Sydney Olympics in 2000 as a Sports Physiotherapist.  Libby previously owned and was Managing Director of 2 multidisciplinary Health clinics: Grange Physiotherapy in Rockingham and Mandurah Physiotherapy in Western Australia. Grange Physiotherapy was the recipient of the Small Business Award by the Chamber of Commerce in both 1999 and 2012 and was runner-up in the People's Choice award and a finalist in 2019.

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David's career spans 3 decades and has involved many aspects of Physiotherapy; public, private, business ownership and growth but he has a special interest in the broader issues and governance of health. Upskilling himself with an MBA, and chairman and director training, David has been involved in boards, reference groups, foundations and councils in both health and non-health fields. Most recently this has led to him being involved in the formation of groups focused on improving men's health. David has a lot of wisdom to offer and he happily shares his insights about our profession.

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Biography
David is a Physiotherapist in Busselton, director of the GeoBay multidisciplinary Healthcare Centre and co-director of Rubix Health, a digital health organisation focused on persistent pain. David has been deeply involved with leadership roles in the wider health, art and culture, local government, and community sectors in the south-west of WA over three decades. He was the cofounder and inaugural chair of the acclaimed WA film festival CinefestOZ. He is currently Board Chair of health care not for profit, GP down south, Regional Director for WA of The Man Walk and Deputy Chair of the Advisory Committee for the Men Healthier Together research foundation.  

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While most Physiotherapists 'fall into' Physiotherapy after school, Richmond is the first Physiotherapist on Physio+10 who de-registered and then a decade later re-registered as a Physiotherapist.

In those intervening years, Richmond went on a journey of personal discovery and came to some important decisions, which continue to shape the life choices that he makes and the person he has become. One of these is his awareness of how trauma influences the day-to-day clinical presentations we are all seeing, but may not be adequately addressing.
 
Thank you to Richmond for bravely sharing this personal account of his journey as a Physiotherapist.

Biography
Richmond Heath is a Physiotherapist & the Founder of TRE Australia who has been driving innovation in mental health & physical well-being for more than 30 years. He is passionate about empowering people in the self-management of their own health & well-being & since introducing TRE to Australia in 2010 has trained more than 10,000 people in the of use TRE & neurogenic tremors. He is currently integrating breathwork into his practice & is on a mission to incorporate a trauma-informed model of the body & movement into the Physiotherapy worldview.

Free Course
Find out more about TRE by completing this free TRE online course

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In her teens, Abbie experienced a significant neck injury that developed into persistent pain. She set herself a time-based goal, that if she as a Physio couldn't help herself, she would stop being a Physio.

Abbie is candid, joyful, passionate and focused. All qualities that steered her to where she is now as General Manager of Pain Revolution. She is a powerful advocate for women in leadership, solving challenges through collaboration and the importance of lifelong learning. It was a pleasure to touch base and share her journey so far.
 
Biography
Abbie is a physiotherapist and the General Manager of Pain Revolution, uniquely shaped by her own journey through persistent pain. Armed with a Bachelor of Physiotherapy and a Professional Certificate in Pain Science and Education, she is a passionate communicator and facilitator in the field. Growing up in rural WA with the nearest healthcare a 3-hour drive away, Abbie developed a deep-seated passion for expanding awareness and accessibility to best practice pain care in rural and regional Australia. This commitment propelled her to her leadership role at Pain Revolution, a not-for-profit initiative dedicated to changing the way rural and regional communities understand and approach persistent pain through a community-wide approach.

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