Nate & Ben are joined by Nick Pollack (PitcherList.com) to discuss the Cardinals offseason (lol), what to expect from the Cardinals rotation, finding some hope in the young guys, figuring out what to do with Steven Matz, bad fantasy baseball strategy, who the next man up in the rotation is, can Liberatore find it?, Ben's upcoming half-marathon, and much more! 

Have a question or comment for the show? Text or leave us a voicemail at: (848) 48-BIRDS (848-482-4737)

Talking About Birds is listener supported on Patreon. Support the show and join our private discord server at: www.patreon.com/talkingaboutbirds.