Playing the Big, Beautiful Long Game with Debbie Zita

**Warning Adult content and language

In this episode of Playing the Big, Beautiful Long Game, host Debbie Zita shares a beautiful conversation with Clare Elizabeth Dea, a transformational coach, inspirational speaker and performance artist.  Her story is about the raw and real journey of self-acceptance, vulnerability, and learning to embrace our shadows to uncover our true power.

Together they dig deeper into how embracing our imperfections can unlock personal freedom, and the importance of emotional intelligence in business and life. Some other highlights from their conversation were; 

• The connection between creativity and authenticity
• Why shadow work is essential for deep transformation
• How Clare’s journey shaped her unique perspective on embodiment and self-expression

Clare’s wisdom and warmth remind us that playing bigger isn’t about striving for perfection—it’s about fully embracing who we are, shadows and all. 

Use code: BABY ➡️ here to get a discount on Clare's upcoming show!

Learn More About Clare
Clare Elizabeth Dea is a self-help junkie turned international performance artist, speaker, and author, transforming her imperfections into art, laughter, and inspiration.

“She whips the audience into a frenzy” 

Weekend Notes Publication.

Over the past 25 years, Clare has graced stages all around the world, empowering thousands of people to unleash their creative expression with her magic. Featured on various TV shows, documentaries, films and media platforms, she is celebrated for her unique blend of singing, comedy, and storytelling, diving deep into personal development and spirituality.

“That was one of the most brilliant performances I have ever seen,”

Benjamin Harvey - Authentic Education

Connect with Clare
Website: www.clareelizabethdea.com
Instagram: @clareelizabeth_dea

Connect with Debbie

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deb_zita/
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debbie-zita-21245540/
Website: https://theheartcentredway.com/

Join the Playing Bigger Playing Beautiful Community on FB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1071859630185759

Access a complimentary Monday Meditation and Prioritisation Session inside The Heart Centred Way Community ➡️ here:  https://tidycal.com/m465v73/free-monday-session

Music Credit:
"Clap Along" by Jason Shaw
Licensed under Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License.
Source: Audionautix.com
No changes were made, except using a portion of the track.

In this episode of Playing the Big, Beautiful Long Game, host Debbie Zita welcomes the insightful and inspiring Cortney McDermott, an Award-winning author, TEDx speaker, and thought leader in human potential. Her approach to life and business goes beyond traditional success—it’s about letting go of expectations, cultivating deep trust, and fully embracing who we are at our core.

Throughout their conversation, Debbie and Cortney discuss:

• What it means to truly trust and surrender to life’s unfolding
• The myth of external success and why it often leads to feeling "miserably successful"
• How to step into your Source Self—the truest version of who you are
• The power of gratitude as a key to wealth, joy, and fulfillment
• Why relaxing is the secret to accessing higher wisdom and personal freedom

Cortney reminds us that playing bigger is about becoming more of who you truly are. Stop chasing external validation and start embracing your own innate brilliance! 

Get a copy of Cortney’s Book on Amazon

Learn More About Cortney
Cortney is a bestselling author, TEDx speaker, and human potential enthusiast, with a  Master of Science from the London School of Economics. 

Her work in the field of self-development and business strategy has been featured in Inc., Women’s  Health, SUCCESS, The Huffington Post, FOX News, and many other mainstream business and lifestyle  media. 

Cortney's career highlights include her time as an executive at Vanity Fair Corporation, Vice President at  Sustainability Partners Inc., and then running her own businesses, with clients and audiences at  Universal Music Group, Google, Nike, and Virgin Unite. 

Connect with Cortney
Website: www.cortneymcdermott.com
Linkedin: cortneymcdermott
Instagram: @cortneymcdermott

Connect with Debbie

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deb_zita/
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debbie-zita-21245540/
Website: https://theheartcentredway.com/

Join the Playing Bigger Playing Beautiful Community on FB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1071859630185759

Access a complimentary Monday Meditation and Prioritisation Session inside The Heart Centred Way Community ➡️ here:  https://tidycal.com/m465v73/free-monday-session

Music Credit:
"Clap Along" by Jason Shaw
Licensed under Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License.
Source: Audionautix.com
No changes were made, except using a portion of the track.

In this episode of Playing the Big, Beautiful Long Game, host Debbie Zita welcomes Minna Salmesvuo, Director at Social Media Tribe. Minna's journey goes beyond social media mastery—it's about living with intention and harnessing the energy of authentic connection and creativity.

Together they dive into;

• Finding meaning in work unlocks creativity and excellence
• The role of spirituality in entrepreneurship and personal growth
• Overcoming limiting beliefs and embodying abundance
• The importance of dreaming big and trusting the journey

Minna’s wisdom and warmth remind us that playing bigger isn’t about hustling harder—it’s about aligning with purpose and showing up as your most authentic self. If you’re ready to embrace your unique path and grow both personally and professionally, this episode is for you.

Learn More About Minna
Minna is the Founder and Director of Social Media Tribe. With a background in IT, Business Analytics, and Marketing Strategy, she supports diverse industries from professional services to wellness and higher education. Minna is also the author of In the Heart of Social Media Marketing and enjoys public speaking and leading training workshops.

Minna's passion for the social media marketing industry and dedication to her business have driven Social Media Tribe’s exponential growth. She thrives as a guest speaker at events and conducts impactful workshops for businesses and organizations.

Connect with Minna
Linkedin: minnasalmesvuo
Instagram: @socialmediatribe
Facebook: SocialMediaTribe
Website:  https://socialmediatribe.com.au/ 

Connect with Debbie

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deb_zita/
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debbie-zita-21245540/
Website: https://theheartcentredway.com/

Join the Playing Bigger Playing Beautiful Community on FB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1071859630185759

Access a complimentary Monday Meditation and Prioritisation Session inside The Heart Centred Way Community ➡️ here:  https://tidycal.com/m465v73/free-monday-session

Music Credit:
"Clap Along" by Jason Shaw
Licensed under Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License.
Source: Audionautix.com
No changes were made, except using a portion of the track.

🌶️🔥Heads up, lovely ones! This episode contains strong language, adult content and unfiltered real talk about self-empowerment, breaking free from conditioning, and stepping into your full, untamed power. 

In this fiery episode of Playing the Big, Beautiful Long Game, host Debbie Zita welcomes the Queen of Transformation herself—Renée Mayne. Her story isn’t about coaching,  personal growth, and getting the-F out of your own way to reclaim your power, break cycles, and set your soul on fire.

Renée doesn’t hold back as she dives into radical self-acceptance, feminine fire, and the kind of transformation that makes you unapologetically YOU. This fiery conversation goes deep on; 

• What playing bigger really means—it’s not about doing more, but becoming more
• Why we need to own our wild, messy, untamed selves
• Why women’s power has been conditioned out of us and how to get it back

Renée brings the heat and reminds us that playing bigger isn’t about following the rules—it’s about unleashing the fire that’s already inside you. If you’re ready to stop apologizing, own your magic, and step into your full, untamed power—this one’s for you.

Links:

• Book: Women Living Deliciously
• Singer: Ani Difranco,
• THE 6 Selves™ Framework

Trauma support: 

• Lifeline Australia - 13 11 14 (24 hr support with trained counsellors)
• 1800RESPECT (Domestic or sexual violence) 
• Beyond Blue 1300 224 636
• Kids Help Line: kidshelpline.com.au - 1800 551 800 

If you are outside of Australia please search for your local supports online

Learn More About Renée
Renée is a force of nature, igniting a revolution of WildFire Women—fierce souls setting their lives ablaze with raw aliveness and smoldering magick. Renowned for creating transformations that defy expectations, her legendary experiences spark visceral awakenings, empowering women to live unapologetically in their truth.

Connect with Renée
Instagram: @wildfire_woman
Facebook: @schoolofsomatickink
Website: www.reneemayne.com.au 

Connect with Debbie

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deb_zita/
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debbie-zita-21245540/
Website: https://theheartcentredway.com/

Join the Playing Bigger Playing Beautiful Community on FB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1071859630185759

Access a complimentary Monday Meditation and Prioritisation Session inside The Heart Centred Way Community ➡️ here:  https://tidycal.com/m465v73/free-monday-session

Music Credit:
"Clap Along" by Jason Shaw
Licensed under Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License.
Source: Audionautix.com
No changes were made, except using a portion of the track.

In this episode of Playing Bigger, Playing Beautiful, host Debbie Zita welcomes Dr. Angela Butts Chester, a Pastoral Counselor, Empowerment Coach, Mediapreneur, Author, International Women's Speaker. Her journey is about more than her many roles—it’s about living boldly, authentically, and with deep faith.

Their conversation looks at the power of owning your authentic self and never dimming your light and they dig deeper into; 

• Embracing wisdom and confidence as we grow and evolve
• Overcoming limiting beliefs and shifting into an abundance mindset
• Aligning business with purpose and faith to create meaningful impact

Dr. Angela’s wisdom and warmth remind us that playing bigger isn’t about pushing harder or proving ourselves—it’s about stepping fully into who we already are with faith, grace, and confidence. If you’re ready to live boldly and create a legacy of impact, this episode is for you.

Debbie and Dr. Angela talk about the song ‘Try’ by Mandy Harvey. Watch/listen to it on YouTube

Learn More About Dr. Angela
Dr. Angela Butts Chester is a top thought leader in empowerment, dedicated to helping Millennial and Gen X women overcome limiting beliefs and live abundantly. A pastoral counselor, author, and host of Daily Spark TV and Daily Spark with Dr. Angela, she inspires audiences worldwide.

As Editor-in-Chief of PASSIONEER Magazine and a sought-after speaker, Dr. Angela champions women in leadership. A cancer survivor and former Associate Pastor, she has been recognized among the Top 10 Business Women to Watch and Women Leaders to Follow.

Connect with Dr. Angela
Instagram: @drangelachester
Facebook: @drangelachester
Website: https://drangelachester.com/home 

Connect with Debbie

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deb_zita/
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debbie-zita-21245540/
Website: https://theheartcentredway.com/

Join the Playing Bigger Playing Beautiful Community on FB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1071859630185759

Access a complimentary Monday Meditation and Prioritisation Session inside The Heart Centred Way Community ➡️ here:  https://tidycal.com/m465v73/free-monday-session

Music Credit:
"Clap Along" by Jason Shaw
Licensed under Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License.
Source: Audionautix.com
No changes were made, except using a portion of the track.

In this episode of Playing Bigger, Playing Beautiful, host Debbie Zita welcomes Norah Lynn Copithorne, founder of Nature’s Defence, a business dedicated to natural, eco-friendly mould remediation. But Norah’s story is about so much more than her business—it’s about transformation, trusting intuition, and stepping into leadership with a loving heart.

This conversation is full of fascinating information and deep insights. Debbie and Norah explore:

• The journey of trusting yourself and embracing your inner authority
• Navigating life’s transitions and finding purpose in the unexpected
• Balancing spirituality with practical action in business and life
• Holding space for others while honoring personal boundaries
• Choosing love over fear and walking your own unique path

Norah’s wisdom and warmth remind us that playing bigger isn’t about doing more—it’s about stepping fully into who we already are. If you’re ready to lead with authenticity, trust your journey, and embrace the beauty of your own evolution, this episode is for you.

Debbie shares about THE 6 Selves™ Framework. Learn more here: https://debbiezita.com/coaching/ 

Learn More About Norah
Norah Lynn Copithorne is the visionary founder of Nature’s Defence—a trailblazer in natural mould remediation. With a rich background in business development, Norah's personal health challenges, including severe migraines, ignited her passion for holistic well-being and sustainable living.

Her journey led to the creation of Nature’s Defence, an Australian company dedicated to combating mould through eco-friendly, plant-based solutions. She is committed to education and empowerment, and her dedication to sustainability and health has positioned her as a leading authority in natural mould remediation, inspiring many to adopt greener practices in maintaining healthy living environments.

Connect with Norah
Instagram: @naturesdefencetm
Website: www.naturesdefence.co

Connect with Debbie

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deb_zita/
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debbie-zita-21245540/
Website: https://theheartcentredway.com/

Join the Playing Bigger Playing Beautiful Community on FB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1071859630185759

Access a complimentary Monday Meditation and Prioritisation Session inside The Heart Centred Way Community ➡️ here:  https://tidycal.com/m465v73/free-monday-session

Music Credit:
"Clap Along" by Jason Shaw
Licensed under Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License.
Source: Audionautix.com
No changes were made, except using a portion of the track.

In this episode of Playing Bigger, Playing Beautiful The Podcast, host Debbie Zita has a beautiful conversation with Paula Day, a results-driven Virtual CFO and trusted business advisor. Together they explore how women can redefine their relationship with money, step into financial independence, and create a business that aligns with their values.

Paula shares her inspiring journey from climbing the corporate ladder as an accountant—working with CEOs and government leaders—to starting over after divorce, losing everything, and rebuilding a thriving business that empowers women to create wealth on their own terms.

Together, they explore:

• Overcoming financial setbacks and reinventing yourself with resilience
• Shifting from corporate to entrepreneurship with confidence and clarity
• The power of mindset in creating abundance and financial sovereignty
• How to balance business growth with personal well-being and family life
• Practical steps to replace your corporate income before making the leap

Paula also shares her biggest lessons on money, self-worth, and what it truly means to play big—without burning out.

Learn More About Paula 

With over 20 years of experience helping small and scaling businesses achieve financial clarity, scale operations, and grow profitably, her mission is to help others simplify their finances, scale with confidence, and get set up for long-term success.s. 

As a Master NLP Practitioner and Hypnotherapist, she understands the mindset shifts necessary for sustainable success. Beyond the numbers, she’s also a personal stylist and social media expert, helping business owners align their identity, brand, and vision for maximum impact.

Connect with Paula
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/paula.day.coach/
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/business-advisor-coach/
Follow her on Instagram: @iampauladay 

If you need trauma support: 

• Lifeline Australia - 13 11 14 (24 hr support with trained counsellors)
• 1800RESPECT (Domestic or sexual violence) 
• Beyond Blue 1300 224 636
• Kids Help Line: kidshelpline.com.au - 1800 551 800 

If you are outside of Australia please search for your local supports online

Connect with Debbie

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deb_zita/
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debbie-zita-21245540/
Website: https://theheartcentredway.com/

Join the Playing Bigger Playing Beautiful Community on FB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1071859630185759

Access a complimentary Monday Meditation and Prioritisation Session inside The Heart Centred Way Community ➡️ here:  https://tidycal.com/m465v73/free-monday-session

Music Credit:
"Clap Along" by Jason Shaw
Licensed under Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License.
Source: Audionautix.com
No changes were made, except using a portion of the track.

In this episode of Playing Bigger, Playing Beautiful The Podcast, host Debbie Zita is talking with Jane Anderson, a Growth Strategist and expert in B2B selling, to discuss how women entrepreneurs can step into their expertise, price their services confidently, and build sustainable, values-driven businesses.

Jane shares her journey from starting over after divorce—losing everything and moving back in with her parents—to building a thriving practice helping women consultants and advisors scale to $750K–$1.5M in revenue while maintaining freedom, fulfillment, and integrity.

Together, they explore:

• Overcoming self-doubt and embracing the value of your expertise.
• How to confidently sell your services without feeling "salesy."
• The power of community and having the right people around you.
• Why playing big isn’t about chasing huge revenue—it’s about defining success on your own terms.
• The mindset shifts that help women move from undercharging to owning their worth.

Jane also shares practical strategies, including how to set boundaries with “pick your brain” requests, create offers that align with your expertise, and navigate the highs and lows of business with resilience.

Jane mentions the Ted Talk: What I learned from 100 days of Rejection with Jia Jiang

Learn More About Jane 

With over 20 years of experience in personal branding, business growth, and corporate communications, Jane has helped over 180,000 people—especially women—build trust and influence in their businesses. She is recognized as a top 3 global branding guru, and is the host of The Jane Anderson Show, where she’s interviewed leaders like Seth Godin, and her insights have been featured in Forbes, Business Insider, and The Sydney Morning Herald.

Jane has worked with top experts and global brands, including Virgin Australia, Lego, and Ikea. She is the author of 13 books, including Put Yourself Out There: Elevate Your Presence and Increase Your Influence.

Connect with Jane
Visit her website: www.jane-anderson.com.au
Follow her on Instagram: @the_jane_anderson and on Facebook

And... Listen to her Podcast, The Jane Anderson Show

Connect with Debbie

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deb_zita/
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debbie-zita-21245540/
Website: https://theheartcentredway.com/

Join the Playing Bigger Playing Beautiful Community on FB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1071859630185759

Access a complimentary Monday Meditation and Prioritisation Session inside The Heart Centred Way Community ➡️ here:  https://tidycal.com/m465v73/free-monday-session

Music Credit:
"Clap Along" by Jason Shaw
Licensed under Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License.
Source: Audionautix.com
No changes were made, except using a portion of the track.

In this episode of Playing Bigger, Playing Beautiful The Podcast, host Debbie Zita has a deeply insightful conversation with intimacy and relationship mentor Martina Hughes to explore the profound world of sacred intimacy, embodiment, and relational connection. Martina shares her journey from a career in accounting to answering her true calling—guiding individuals and couples toward deeper, more fulfilling relationships.

Together, they discuss:

• Why many women struggle with fully opening to pleasure and how to cultivate a more embodied, love-driven presence.
• How both men and women can reclaim their sensuality and deepen their relationships.
• The evolution of intimacy and sexuality as we age.
• The importance of listening to the body when making life and career transitions.
• The three ways of relating—Alpha, Omega, and their dynamic interplay.

Martina also offers practical tools for reconnecting with your body, such as movement, breathwork, and voice activation. Whether you're in a relationship or on a personal journey of self-discovery, this episode is an invitation to embrace intimacy, love, and pleasure in a whole new way.

Debbie shares about THE 6 Selves™ Framework. Learn more here: https://debbiezita.com/coaching/ 

Learn More About Martina 

Martina Hughes is dedicated to supporting men and women in awakening through love. With 20 years of experience in intimacy, sexuality, and relationships, she empowers people to connect with the deep source of love within. Her personal transformation took her from a career in finance to extensive training in yoga, meditation, breathwork, rebirthing, tantra, and various healing modalities, leading her to become an Intimacy and Relationship Mentor.

Connect with Martina
Website: https://www.intimacy-oasis.com/
Read more on the blog: https://www.intimacy-oasis.com/blog
Follow her on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/martinajhughes/
Podcast: https://www.intimacy-oasis.com/podcasts/awakening-through-love

Work with Martina through Intimacy & Relationship Mentoring Options https://www.intimacy-oasis.com/Coaching

Connect with Debbie

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deb_zita/
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debbie-zita-21245540/
Website: https://theheartcentredway.com/

Join the Playing Bigger Playing Beautiful Community on FB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1071859630185759

Access a complimentary Monday Meditation and Prioritisation Session inside The Heart Centred Way Community ➡️ here:  https://tidycal.com/m465v73/free-monday-session

Music Credit:
"Clap Along" by Jason Shaw
Licensed under Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License.
Source: Audionautix.com
No changes were made, except using a portion of the track.

In this episode of Playing Bigger, Playing Beautiful The Podcast, host Debbie Zita has a heart centred conversation with Miriam Sandkuhler, CEO of Property Mavens, who shares her entrepreneurial journey, from overcoming industry chauvinism to building a multi-award-winning property advocacy firm. 

Debbie and Miriam discuss the powerful role emotional intelligence and personalized strategies play in property advocacy, and how she rises above the challenges posed by unqualified buyer agents by setting her firm apart with authenticity and care. They also explore how necessity and resilience guided her into entrepreneurship.

Miriam shares her approach to sustainable business growth, focusing on systemization, a strong media presence, and mindful cash flow management. Highlighting the unwavering tenacity required to overcome setbacks, all while maintaining balance in both business and life.

Whether you're an entrepreneur or someone seeking to navigate challenges with grace, Miriam's story is a source of inspiration and valuable wisdom.
  
Debbie mentions the book: Women Living Deliciously: The Life-Changing Book Every Woman Deserves

Learn More About Miriam 

Miriam Sandkuhler, aka the Property Maven, is an Accredited Property Investment Advisor and Licensed Buyers Agent and Vendor Advocate, with over 30 years of experience in the property industry. She helps clients create wealth by providing independent and unbiased property advice, which enables smarter home buying and investment decisions and happier and more profitable outcomes.

Miriam’s knowledge and passion for educating others led to her book, Property Prosperity – 7 Steps to Investing Like an Expert and becoming one of Amazon’s Best Selling Authors. She also mentors Financial Advisors on how to better support their clients when investing in property and has written a course, Integrating Property Advice, which is offered via Property Mavens Academy.

Connect with Miriam
Website: https://bit.ly/3WBEftD
Instagram: https://bit.ly/42t1SYS
Get a copy of Miriam's book: https://bit.ly/4ghDYTF
Book a Free Consultation: https://bit.ly/3CmMaUI

Connect with Debbie

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deb_zita/
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debbie-zita-21245540/
Website: https://theheartcentredway.com/

Join the Playing Bigger Playing Beautiful Community on FB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1071859630185759

Access a complimentary Monday Meditation and Prioritisation Session inside The Heart Centred Way Community ➡️ here:  https://tidycal.com/m465v73/free-monday-session

Music Credit:
"Clap Along" by Jason Shaw
Licensed under Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License.
Source: Audionautix.com
No changes were made, except using a portion of the track.