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Podcast 412: Healing Infrared Light

MARTIN: Hello, this is Martin Pytela for Life Enthusiast Podcast, and with me today I have Jim Ohneck, the CEO of Epoch Lasers. Hello Jim!

JIM: Hello Martin! Thanks for having me on your show today.

MARTIN: Great. I want to pre-frame this talk today by saying that we will be talking in technical details about a product that helps people remove the effects of inflammation, and it is primarily going to be focused on people who are in the business of caring for others or maybe enthusiasts helping themselves. The product itself is a professional-grade piece of equipment. If you want to learn about the personal device from Epoch Lasers, please go back to a podcast episode we recorded a few weeks ago, where we introduced Epoch Lasers to our audience. So, Jim, you were recently visiting Ecuador, right?

JIM: Oh yes, Martin, that is correct. I just got back at the end of last week, and while I was there, I had the opportunity to participate in the grand opening of a Clinica Linda, which is a clinic that has been set up for free to help the indigenous people in Ecuador up in the Andes mountains. And they respond really rapidly to the laser treatment. But interestingly while I was there and treating the indigenous people, there were other people that were there at the facility who really latched on to the ability to be able to help reduce people’s pain and inflammation through devices like the laser, and saw themselves becoming certified therapists. So a number of people started asking: “How can I become a therapist? How can I get certified? How can I get a device? Can I use this at home? And can I travel around with it, and help family and friends, or even people at a firehouse?”

MARTIN: There is quite an extended expatriate community in Ecuador, right? Were some of these people also just visiting?

JIM: Well, there were the indigenous people, locals, and there were other people that were there visiting what’s called a TOSA Blue Mountain Retreat, it is a spiritual resort location, and they were there to learn. We were all there for the Equinox that took place.

MARTIN: So let’s dive into it! What do you call this device specifically?

JIM: It is called the Epoch 980, and it is a Class 4 laser. It is a professional-grade product, as you mentioned. There are different classifications of lasers, Class 1 being like a laser pointer, and Class 4 being anything above 500 milliwatts. This particular laser is 20 watts of total power. That may sound scary, but that lets you have a very broad treatment beam, which means you can treat a larger surface area, which equates to much faster treatment. The typical treatment time with this laser is 10 minutes.

MARTIN: We have also been promoting your personal device, the InfraHelios, that puts out quite a bit less power, right?

JIM: Right. The InfraHelios is much lower in power, it still uses the same light science, the 980nm wavelength, but it is spread over a larger surface area. It just means that it takes a longer time to treat. The typical treatment with the professional-grade lasers is 10 minutes,