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"One of their parents died, their parents died. Maybe something tragic happened. They were raped, they were, you know, sexually abused, they were kidnapped. And anyway, most people trying to do drugs are trying to numb their, their life. They don't want to feel, they want to be. They want to escape because for some reason they, if they were happy, they wouldn't want to escape. If they were at peace, it would be."