Podcast Episode Archives - There's No Place Like Summer Camp

Hello everyone and welcome to There’s No Place Like Summer Camp. This is the episode where the books have been released. Oh yeah. So coming into our tent and I’ll spill the beans.

Hello everyone. Yeah, the intro still rockin. That’s in place I saw the company’s out guys. Wow. Cheers. Cheers to you guys. This one’s for you. Oh God, I am definitely going to go a couple of ways. Jesus Christ.

There’s No Place Like Summer Camp is out. I don’t even know what to say. I don’t know what to say. It’s been in the works for six years. There’s no  structure to this one. It’s been six years in the making to get to the point of a book release. And here we are. There’s No Place Like Summer Camp is available on Amazon. It’s available, potentially wherever you want to buy your books. I don’t want to say it’s available on eBook paperback, hardback. Six years, man six years in the making to get to here. My initial plan was back in I think 2018.

We’re at what I think this is the 82nd podcast episode. And my initial plan was to release There’s No Place Like Summer Camp in 2018. I remember my first book, The first book of There’s No Place Like Summer Camp wasn’t even called the same name. I don’t know if you know this, but this is going to this podcast could go on for however long. And it’s gonna go on all sorts of tangents. So I hope you’re prepared for that. And I hope you’ve got a nice beverage of choice next year. Mine today is Coke Zero. And you would see that if this was a YouTube video, but we’ll get onto that more a bit later. I’m just going to pretend it’s like an alcoholic beverage. Because that’s the cool thing everyone does. But I’m no drinker. Not anymore. I’m approaching 30. Come on.

Yeah, my initial release was in 2018. I think I’m sure I released a version of the book. I think it was 2016 or 2017. And I thought it was pretty much ready. Now if you go and get There’s No Place Like Summer Camp. You’ll be able to see all this bonus information by going to theresnoplacelikesummercamp.com/bonus. And you’ll be able to download all this bonus content. And in that bonus content, you’ll be able to see the previous covers that I had, as well as a readout that I did at our author meetup. You can see the journey that the books come on. Now it’s cool. It’s cool to say I’m a fucking author. I’ve published a book, There’s No Place Like Summer Camp. What I was trying to say is there’s no place like summer camp, it wasn’t always that name. It used to be called a secret diary of American summer camp. I don’t even think that’s the correct name.

But it’s gone through its name iterations and then I settled on There’s No Place Like Summer Camp because I think it hits the nail on the head. And I don’t know if you’ve known this but I know Natasha, for instance, didn’t know this herself. It took her a while to figure out oh, that’s why it’s called that. So obviously I’m sure there’s gonna be people in this podcast now listening and going HOLY SHIT I didn’t even realize or There’s gonna be loads of people you listening saying obviously. I knew that. So cut to the point. There’s no place like home. Yeah, It comes from Wizard of Oz. Now a lot of you listening are probably going to be in the 18, to 25 age bracket.

Now, I’m not that much older than 25, he says, but I know the Wizard of Oz. So if you don’t know the Wizard of Oz, and you’re between 18 and 25, please come watch the Wizard of Oz, the original one. So that’s where there’s no place like home comes from. And the reason I called it, There’s No Place Like Summer Camp is because it’s sort of like a second home. Now, that’s poetry. And I think it sums up exactly how I feel about summer camp, is I keep reminiscing, I keep talking about it, loads of other people do the same thing. And that’s the reason that I settled on, There’s No Place Like Summer Camp, it’s, you know, it’s a bit of a phrase, that sums up exactly what I want this book to be. And I’m proud to say that it’s available now.

It’s come on quite a journey. And I don’t know, I don’t know what my goals are for this. I don’t know what the goals are, I don’t know what I’m expecting from it. I just knew that I wanted to produce the best content I could, and it will take as long as it would need to take before it would launch. I didn’t want to release something that was going to flop on its initial launch. That’s something that I’ve been very careful about. Because back in 2016, sort of times when I thought the book was ready, and I did those author talks where I’d still stand up in front of a group of authors. You’ll hear on the bonus content, the feedback I was getting, wasn’t great. You can tell why if you listen to my readout. It was very wanting those early copies. I think in total, I’ve probably made over 20 different versions of this book. Over the course of the six years, 20 completely different versions of There’s No Place Like Summer Camp, where they either have like, you know, totally different layouts, totally different name different characters, totally different. Events, totally different sort of photos were in there at one point in the very early stages. But now I can say that I’m so happy with it. And I have to give a quick mention to the people that helped me get to this point because it’s not just a one-man band.

I got a lot of help from my editor, Joanna Craven, who’s mentioned in the book, as well as the others. Muhammad Ali, was great. He was so fantastic at helping set up a book that looked professional, and he helped with the formatting and that sort of thing. There’s Rebecca Ira who was great at helping me create a stunning front cover and helps me with just getting the across the line all three of those people are fantastic. To say that the books out now is is it’s ridiculous.

So yeah, it’s available on Amazon eBook, paperback hardback, it should be available no matter where you’re listening. So if you are listening, say from the US, and you’re interested in summer camp, you should be able to go on to amazon.com and buy the book. If you’re in the UK, of course, all three copies will be available there. There are some problems with like different language countries like Mexico, where you speak Portuguese for some reason. If you want to order the book, you’re gonna have to order from like, I don’t know, amazon.com or something. I don’t know how it works over there. But if you’re listening from abroad, just bear that in mind. I know I have my fans in Germany, I sent out that special signed in addition to my friend Alex, who’s been on the podcast before for an interview where we just talked about summer camp, and it was great to see his support throughout the years. So he got a special signed copy. I think the German audience do have their storefront as well. So you’ll be able to pick up the copy.

But it was just in some random countries. I think it was Mexico and Netherlands that there were the two where I just couldn’t, I couldn’t upload the book because it was in English. And even with the heads up like heads up this books in English by the way. Amazon still wouldn’t let it happen. But anyway, I’m getting on a tangent. There are more retailers in the world than just Amazon. Which leads me on to this Say how chuffed I am with having it. The possibility of having the book in Waterstones or WHSmiths or your local book shop, it can be in so many different places. It’s not an Amazon exclusive, I’m thrilled to say because you do get some, you know, self-published works that are a bit questionable. But in this case, I’ve gone all out, I’ve not, I’ve not let any stone go on turned. And for instance, I’m still recording a fucking audiobook. It’s a lot of work, I think I’m about five hours into it and I’ve only scratched about 25% of the book.

So that’s fun and that might be coming out “soon”. I say soon with air quotes there. But I hope to have that out at some point, just to get it as available as possible. Because I know some of you guys, you might not read books, books are pretty uncool, at least in the stereotype way of thinking is you know who reads a book. “oh, the last time I read a book was, I don’t know the Hungry Caterpillar when I was four years old”. I know that this sort of audience, a lot of you think that way. And it’s a bit of a shame because books can open up a world of possibilities. But I know, audiobooks, podcasts are filling in that gap. So I am working on an audiobook. And you’ve always got this podcast here to help you out as well just to get your summer camp fix. So There’s No Place Like Summer Camp, it’s available. It’s not only in Amazon, hopefully, if I ever do see it in Waterstones or any retailer, but I’m also going to have to buy a pen and just sign it. So if you do ever see it in a store, hit me up on Instagram, hit me up on Twitter. That will be so cool to see because I’ve done it properly. I’ve done it through all the official channels. It’s very much a real possibility that it could be, you know, a Waterstones best seller.

Now, my goals for the book, they’re not as extravagant as that, I just wanted to say that I’ve released a book, and it’s on a passion project of mine. That’s, you know, been such a fantastic time of my life where I volunteered at summer camp that I think it should be some experience that’s shared with the world. I hope it inspires young people to go and explore and take a risk. Because I think nowadays, it’s very, very easy to just sit on your ass and watch Netflix. Now, that’s not the sort of person I am. And it’s never really been the sort of person I am. Instead, I’ll be the sort of person that would sit down in front of my Xbox 360 and play video games all day. There was a part of my life that was like that. But nowadays, I’ve started to become like this workaholic. I’m not trying to turn this into like a mental health podcast or anything like that.

But when I listened to the likes of happy place on Spotify or any other podcast platform with Fearne Cotton, I do empathize/associate myself to the way that she thinks because if I’m not working, or if I’m not being productive, then “what’s the point in living, oh my god, what am I doing, I’m just a waste of skin”. And like someone else, you know, could do so much better than what I’m doing right now. I have to tread a careful line here. Because the main reason that I don’t use Facebook and social media, in my personal life, like Instagram, own Instagram accounts, and that sort of thing. I don’t use social media because I compare myself to others. I very much care what people think, which is shit, to be honest.

But that’s the way of social media, the way social media is set up is for you to instantly think oh, okay, I know Andrew bought house. I don’t know, I went to school with him. And, you know, look at him, he’s released a book. And then I’ve, oh, I’m just over here, just doing my nine to five and I never got to travel. If you think that way then you’ll be miserable. And that’s not my intention here like it’s very easy to compare yourself to others. But one of the best tips that I got from Jordan Peterson, who’s a very, very big inspiration of mine, is to compare yourself to who you were yesterday. Don’t compare yourself to me. Don’t compare yourself to… I don’t know, your best friend. Don’t compare yourself to your worst enemy. Don’t compare yourself to Elon Musk or someone you aspire to be. Compare yourself to who you were before.

Of course, take tips and influence from the likes of someone who’s who inspires you. But compare yourself to someone that’s I don’t know. You don’t know anything about it’s not a good way. So yeah, it filled me with much anxiety posting to my own Facebook page. Or should I say my own Facebook account to my so-called friends? To sort of promote that this book is a thing because, in my head, I thought, okay, the books releasing now, do I keep it silent and not say a thing? Then people stumble upon my book and think, holy shit, Andrew Waterhouse has released a book, or do I go out there? Do one post, say, here it is, it’s released now. And then that can be it. That’s why I went with, so it wasn’t sort of bragging. Maybe I’m overthinking it just by saying it in this podcast. But I think a lot of people have a lot of struggles, especially with COVID and stuff. I know I do.

Everyone does. Everyone has their mental struggles. And it’s very easy to compare yourself to other people. And that’s why I do a lot. I care about what other people think too much. It’s not a healthy thing. So it’s only as I’m starting to tense my 30s that I think, you know, what, if someone doesn’t like me cool, fuck off, your problem. I think that’s only a thing that you start to get when you’re starting to turn 30. Anyway, so that’s what I was very careful about is sort of straying that line of trying to be the, if I ever come across as the person that’s trying to show off, and he’s doing it for the ego, please try and knock me down a peg or two. Because that’s not I’m trying to be I’m just trying to do it for my own sake.

So as for goals of the podcast, and the book is just been something that’s, you know, something I’m passionate about, it’s always going to be there, which is always a fantastic thing like the book will always be there, it will always be on sale, you can always pick it up, you can always get it second hand, hopefully, if physical copies sell. It’s very tempting to keep an eye on the seller rankings and how many sales are making. But initially, on my first day, I have no intention of going in and looking at the sales quite yet, you know. And it’s exciting to see like, it’s sort of climbing some sort of ranking list.

But I don’t want to become obsessed with it. You know, I did it for my own sake. I haven’t got a sales goal in mind, I just want to get the word out and sort of capture a niche that I think is ready for a capture. And I think a lot of people don’t even realize that they’re ready for it. So we’ll see. So that’s sort of about the goals of the book. I don’t know my intentions from here on in. I think I’m still going to be doing podcasts. I think I’m going to try and make it more interview orientated. If I get any celebrities, man, that’d be so cool. I’ve been looking into the people in the UK. So this is like a really, really niche thing. But trying to get people who have some association to the summer camp, whether they’ve worked there, it’s mostly what they’re if they’re from the UK. And they’re willing to talk about it. Someone like Martin Lewis, for instance.

The Money Saving Expert, there’s more people than just him. You know, in the other podcast episode I talked about Michael Eisner. He’s also someone that lives in the UK and is a fucking billionaire. Is he a billionaire who might have just thrown me under the bus? I don’t think he’s a million. I think he’s a billion. I think he’s a millionaire. Let’s have a look. Yeah, he’s worth a billion pounds. Okay, so yeah, he’s a billionaire. So trying to get someone like that on the podcast would be so cool.

So yeah, we’ll see where it goes, you know, I want to try and get people on. I’m reaching out to people trying to get some cool things. It’s, you know, with a podcast with a book they’re always going to be their new people are going to stumble upon this and if you do, it’s cool. It’s cool just to have an audience. It’s cool. So what’s been happening in the last week or so? Well, we have a YouTube channel now. If you just search for There’s No Place Like Summer Camp on YouTube, it’ll come up with like, the latest episodes and that sort of stuff. It’s a program I released only because a lot of the podcast content that I listened to is actually through YouTube. And I’m sure there’s gonna be loads of you out there that just listen to the same way that I do. I might be the odd one out because I don’t watch Netflix. I don’t watch Amazon Prime or anything like that. Or Disney plus or Marvel films or anything like that. Oh, my go-to is YouTube. And I just thought it would make sense, to make a YouTube channel, have a program that automatically uploads like a template or a video alongside the podcast and you can always listen to it there too. You can also go to the YouTube, you guys, I’m struggling to speak because I’m too excited YouTube channel, you can also go to the YouTube channel to go and watch my unboxing of the There’s No Place Like Summer Camp paperback that came in the post, and you can get to see me open it and be excited because it looks good.

I’m going to be trying to do some short videos to help promote the book, there’s the store as well. So if you’re going to summer camp, or if you’re there at the minute and you’re listening to this, you can always pick up some cool merchandise. And you can represent There’s No Place Like Summer Camp where a t-shirt or something helps spread the name. Because that’s cool. There was a giveaway, and that’s completed now. So I can’t promote the competition anymore. If you want to pick up the book, you have to go to a retailer. And I think that’s pretty much all I can share with you, to be honest, it’s been a ride, you know, what 2016 to 2022, it’s taken me to release this is come on leaps and bounds. Link for the shop: http://theresnoplacelikesummercamp.com/shop

I appreciate all of your support. I’d appreciate it if you go and buy a book or buy a t shirt, just help spread the name. Let me know your reviews of There’s No Place Like Summer Camp if you do go and buy it, I would love to see your feedback. You know, the more feedback and reviews I get, the better it will be for the next time, you know, and it will also help for getting the word out to people that are considering going into camp themselves. So thank you guys, for all your support. Thank you for the Twitter messages. Thank you for Instagram following me. Thank you for listening to all these podcasts because you know six years is a mental amount of time. And I’m sure a lot of you have only come on recently. But it’s good to see that steady growth. And yeah, I greatly appreciate that. As for my next project, I think I’m going to take a step away from summer camp because it’s been my life for six years. And it’s a bit obsessive when you’re trying to recall, dialogues, people’s names, and details about camp filling in the blanks.

So I need to take a step away from There’s No Place Like Summer Camp. And my next book is going to be called The Fly Who Flew Too High. I’ve got an idea in my mind of how that’s going to work. I’ve got a rough script. So that’s exciting. And that’s going to be a children’s book. The book is half-written and it’s a completely different change of pace. It’s not going to be geared towards 18 to 30 year old’s, it’s a kids book. The book is almost there, but I think it’s going to be a 2023 thing or, late 2022. So I’ve always had this idea for this children’s book. And it’s just a different change of pace.

Now, that’s not all there’s going to be in regards to the summer camp side of things. Because I did do a second summer. The second summer will be coming. It’s going to take time to do though, want to step away from the summer camp side of things first before I start on that though. So this second book of There’s No Place Like Summer Camp is probably going to be a 2024 thing. And that’s even that’s calling it quite early. But the fact that I’ve got this through to publication now. And it’s got to a point where I can see that night and day difference between the first or even the 10th version of There’s No Place Like Summer Camp to where it is today. has educated me on how to produce a book how to make it readable to an audience how to make it entertaining, and how to cut the chaff. And I think that’s going to help me to make it quicker the next time and have it just as good if not better quality. So I think we can wrap it up here. Just touching on 25 minutes, man. I appreciate all your guys support and go and check out the book. Please give it a review please spread the word.

Hit me up on Twitter hit me up on Instagram. If you ever want to get in touch and you want to be interviewed by me for the podcast, also get in touch it’d be cool if you’ve been to summer camp before all the better or if you’re considering it, that could be an interesting take. So anyway guys, here’s a deep cheers for me. You can’t see me live my drink here but you might be able to hear me slap it. Till the next time, thanks for this opportunity. And I’ll see you in the next podcast. Cheers guys.

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Wow, I never realised that the book ACTUALLY LAUNCHES next week. In this episode, I come to that realisation, as well as discussing the merch I still have to this day from my time at summer camp. How I have so many t shirts and other memorabilia that gives me such nostalgia. I’ll see you next week for the book launch!!!

Hello and welcome to There’s No Place Like Summer Camp. I’m your host Andrew Waterhouse. And in today’s episode, we’re taking a look at the merchandise that I still have from my time at camp. So coming into our tent, and I’ll spill the beans. Hello, everyone.

And welcome back to another episode of There’s No Place Like Summer Camp. I hope you’re doing well. It’s very nice hot sunny day today. It’s, beginning to turn into summer now with the clocks having gone forwards. And it’s, it’s really nice to see the, you know, you finish work and it’s nice, hot, sunny still.

Gone are the days for at least 6 months until, you finish you start work and it’s dark, you finish work and it’s dark because they’re so depressing. I really do find that. So, yeah, I’m feeling good. I hope you are too. I hope it’s sunny, at the time you’re listening to this.

Perhaps you’re on a walk, perhaps you’re I don’t know. I don’t know. Listen to me with the windows down in a car. It’s nice. It’s nice to see that summer is very close.

Yeah. It’s really good. So speaking of things that are really close, the book is probably what? When is it out? Let me have a look at the calendar.

Oh, shit. So by the time that this episode actually goes live, this is gonna be the last episode before the book actually goes live. I didn’t realize that. Oh, jeez. Wow.

That’s really cool. So this is the last episode before the book goes live. I didn’t real I really didn’t realize that. Jesus Christ. That’s cool.

That’s so cool. Well, I’ve realized now that’s good at least. So yeah, if in case you don’t know, the book is just around the corner. It releases on the 4th April. I need to make sure that I’ve done everything I can possibly do for this book.

I think I think it is perfectly ready for release. And, this past couple of well, I say this past couple of weeks. This past week, I’ve just been doing so much work on the audiobook. So an audio book is in the works. It’s probably not going to be ready for the 4th, but the paperback, the ebook, and there’s also gonna be a hardback all available on the 4th April.

So I really do hope you enjoy it. I can’t believe. So okay. So this this episode is all about the merchandise I still have from camp. But before we get into that, I have to remind you guys that the competition is still open.

If you want to have a chance of winning your own copy of There’s No Place Like Summer Camp. Before anyone else, feel free to enter the competition. It is still live. The competition ends on the first, which is the Friday that you’re listening to this. And, what you can do is you have to go to there’s no place like summer camp dot com forward slash competition.

And in there, you’ll be able to enter your details. All you have to do is follow me on Twitter, follow us on Instagram, and you can also sign up to the newsletter if if you wish. But, yeah, it’s really, really cool. So, I’m getting on a tangent. So to to enter that competition, you have to go to that page.

You have to click on the buttons that it asks you to, and then it can log yourself as a competition entry. You’ve got until the first to enter, and you get to win either a paperback or an ebook version of the book. So it’s really exciting. Really, really cool. In the last episode, we talked about the merchandise shop that is now available on there’s no place like summer camp dot com.

It’s available. You go to there’s no place like summer camp dot com forward slash shop. You’ll be able to pick yourself up some t shirts, some hoodies, there’s towels, there’s water bottles. There’s all sorts of different types of merchandise on there. And if you get it, I think it’s before the book release is.

It might be the week of the book release. I think you’ve got until 10th April to pick up some merchandise if you wish with a discount code where you get 10% off for buying through, before, you know, getting in there before everyone else. So the code is early bird and that’s one word. You get 10% off the merchandise shop. I’m I’ve actually got a couple of shirts on the way to my house, and that’s really cool.

I really want to represent the brand, represent the book, and get the name out there. And, I I really appreciate anyone that purchases the merchandise. And let me know what you think about it when you receive it. You can tweet me on twitter at Andrew W09. So we’ve got the competition that’s still open.

We’ve got the merchandise, shop that’s up with the 10% code early birds to get some money off. And, this episode is all about the, merchandise that I still have from my time at camp because what better segue of, having the shop of my own open than talk about the merchandise that I still have from camp, because that’s part of the real experience of having camp and it how it influences your day to day sort of, reminiscence. Is that a word? Reminiscence? I think it is.

Reminiscence about camp is you pick up a t shirt or you pick up some sort of merchandise that you had from back in your camp days, and you really do treasure those. So in this episode, we’re gonna be talking about the ones that I still have, and, hopefully some of you can relate to that. So starting off this, merchandise that I still have from camp, we have my camp America t shirt. Now that’s the 1st year of well, I I think I’ve got 2 Camp America t shirts. I think I’ve got one for the 1st year that I, volunteered, and then we got the second one through the post for that second summer that I volunteered as well.

Whenever you do sign up through Camp America, they part of your, like, I think it’s about £1,000 that you have to pay to go to Camp America. Part of the, experience or part of what you get, should I say, is a couple of t shirts. And it is really cool to get one of those. Not all sort of summer camp programs offer you that. And it’s good to just go to camp and represent.

And I remember vividly, going into the airport the airports of, Heathrow and, who is it? Not JFK. Newark in New York and Atlanta airport wearing these, Camp America t shirts, and you’re seeing a flood of other people wearing them. It’s really cool. So I still have those T shirts somewhere.

I never wanna get rid of them. It’s one of those sentimental memory boxes, and they’re really cool. My, shirts from my own experience of doing camp, and now this is something that I’ve recently been reading myself because I’ve been recording the audio book. And, I’m probably about a quarter of the way of recording the audiobook in its entirety. And it’s, it’s a lot of hard work to do an audiobook.

I’ll tell you that for free. But anyway, I literally stumbled upon the time that me and my co actually ordered our own shirts to sort of represent ourselves while we were at camp. And to this day, I have a, like, a camp summer camp shrine, I like to call it, where I’ve framed this t shirt that we had custom ordered for the 2 of us. And, it was just so cool. I had to keep it.

I had to keep it framed. It’s got so many memories, and, it would be the main shirt that I would wear while I was at camp and especially on my camp outs, which was my specialty that I taught at summer camp. So, never gonna get rid of that. It’s in its own shrine and beneath the shrine, I’m I I might have to post that to Instagram. I’ve never I don’t think I’ve ever shared it on Instagram.

I have this shrine where the t shirt is framed and then a couple of photos of my best buds from summer camp that are beneath. And sometimes just look at that and just think, oh my god. That shirt has been so been through so much. And, yeah, you can really tell because it’s so worn down, but, there there’s nothing I’ll change about it. Okay.

So there’s a couple of other, bits of bits of t shirt memorabilia that I still have from summer camp. And, these two shirts are the shirts that I actually got from my own camp when I was volunteering there. And that’s some of the cool things that I think pretty much most summer camps you think would offer. It’s for basically showing what year you had volunteered at your summer camp and sort of representing your own camp for when parents are coming and you want the camp to look professional. So, my camp gave us one shirt for the 2014 year that we volunteered and another for the 2015, and it was really cool.

The shirts themselves, the first shirt was really cool. It was a really cool shirt because it was the first time I had ever seen such a thing and, it felt like I was, accepted into their sort of folklore or history or into their group by having that first shirt. But the second shirt for me, it wasn’t as good because it was just the literally the same design as the first shirt, but just in a color red. And, I’m just getting off on such a tangent here, but it wasn’t it wasn’t anything to write home about just because it was in a color red, you know. All of the people that had done the 1st summer were, like, tweeting and asking me on Facebook, oh, what what’s the what’s the shirt like for this year?

And I’ll be like, you’re not you’re not really missing out much here, mate, because, because it’s just literally the shirt you already have, but it’s in red because, yeah. I don’t know why they made that decision. But people would be curious because not everyone went to summer camp twice like I did, and that sort of is touched upon in the second book that is gonna be coming, I don’t know when that’s gonna be coming, but that’ll be in that’ll be in the works. That’ll be released at some point, and I’m sure you’ll hear about it on here. So I have 2 shirts from, volunteering at my own camp.

And so far, we have 5 t shirts. And that’s pretty crazy, but that’s that’s really a part of the, I don’t know, the the the thing, I guess, about volunteering at a summer camp is the t shirts. They’re so you look back on these shirts and you think how many memories do these shirts hold because you’re wearing them all the time and you’re rotating through them all the time. And they’re not cringey. They’re not that’s the thing about summer camp.

You can wear what you want really to an extent. Obviously, nothing that’s gonna be unsafe for kids or anything stupid. Like, come on. But if you if you fancy wearing some tie dye shirts, which is the 6th shirt that I totally forgot about, I do have a tie dye shirt somewhere. No one’s gonna really judge you, and, it’s really cool.

Like, loads of people wear these cool shirts that you wouldn’t normally wear outside the bubble, and it’s really cool. So talking about the tie dye shirt, that was something I did in my 2nd summer, and it wasn’t really something that had much memories for me because I put it on once and I thought, oh my god. I can see it radiate from my body, and it was just too much to wear. It was too much, and it was too cringey, and I just had to take it off. So, yeah.

The the tie dye shirt, it was cool to make. I’ve never done one, and haven’t done one since. So it was cool to do that. It was a really crafty thing to do, but I didn’t wear it. And it it doesn’t really hold much memories for me.

But I know 100 and thousands of you out there, your tie dye shirts are gonna mean so much. So that’s a 6th t shirt. Jesus Christ. Right. Moving away from the t shirts now.

So I have a couple of camp socks. Now this is a real strange one, because I was when I received these, I was like, okay. Why are we giving why be why are we why are we being given socks? It didn’t make sense. And these were big thick woolly socks, and it was given to us by the camp.

And now this is a camp in the middle of Atlanta and in the middle of summer. So why we were being given these big thick woolly socks? I’ll never know. So I never wore them while I was at camp. And, it’s only been recently with the change in weather, and the hike in gas prices and all of that sort of thing, where I’ve sort of taken these socks out of their packaging, so to speak, and put them on.

And they’re so nice. They’re so nice and warm, and it represents the camp that I went to. So, yeah, that’s, that’s another piece of memorabilia that I still have from my summer camp. Really cool. Now I’m getting on to other bits of memorabilia that I still have from camp, but these aren’t so much more official than, the ones that have gone prior.

So far, we’ve had 6 fucking t shirts and one pair of socks. They’re all official. They’re all official type things, but these are the more, sentimental in a weird sort of way, type of memorabilia that I still have. And I look back at summer camp and think, oh, man. That was so, so, so good.

Such a good time. The the first one is my top another fucking t shirt. 7 t shirts in this list. Bloody hell. If my t shirts do not get any sales, I am gonna be fuming.

Right. I’ve got 2 on the way, so I guess those count. So, the top that I’m thinking of in this instance is the universal top that I have. We went to Universal Studios in my 2nd year of, travels after doing Camp America for the 2nd year. I still have that t shirt.

I still wear it. It I bought it at the time knowing I was getting ripped off because it was like $35. But I remember buying it thinking, I’ve gone to fucking Universal Studios in Florida, and I never dreamt that I’d ever be able to do such a thing. And it was so cool to be able to say I’ve done that. And that’s not trying to sound like I’m bragging or anything because everyone that does summer camp has really sort of like a once in a lifetime experience.

But we sort of topped it off with the travels afterwards. So I imagine that there’s gonna be plenty of you listening, especially those that have done it in the past. Or if you have summer camp coming up where you’ll be travelling afterwards and you’ll pick up bits and bobs along the way, and you remind yourself of those travels. I know a lot of people used to do, Camp America treks and that sort of thing. Perfect time to start picking up some special memorabilia from all of the places and the, you know, the really cool tourist locations that they take you to.

Yeah. So the mine in this instance is the universal top. The next one, and it’s not so much something that’s official from camp, but I still have those water bottles from my time at summer camp. And it’s one of those things that only when you’re at summer camp you realize how often you need the thing because it’s so hot, so humid. You’re doing so many activities that you need water on you all the time.

And, it’s it’s nuts how often you need it. It’s always on you. There’s gonna be photos of you standing there, happening to be hold holding a water bottle. I still have those and I remember every time I have like this water out of this particular, bottle, I think, oh my god, this is still with me. Like, what’s going on here?

It’s a weird one, I know, but, I always, for some reason, the water bottles take me back. Now one of the things that I lost, I had actually had a piece of merchandise that I lost, was a, a rope that I did in rope burn. And if you wanna hear more about the rope burn story, I’d highly recommend picking up my book because it has all of the details in there. But essentially what rope burn was is a small segment of the color war type events, and I was in that for one of the sessions. And as part of the ceremony, you’re sort of given a segment of this rope to carry back with you.

Now I was really cherishing this piece of charred rope, until I started to had had to, like, pack my suitcase for the travels after camp. And this charred piece of rope would really stink out my suitcase because it was, like, full of charcoal and smoky smells, and I couldn’t really travel with it even with it being inside, like, a plastic bag or anything. Because now we were starting to actually travel outside of the camp bubble, and it wasn’t something that I could really wear in anywhere if if my normal t shirts and jeans and shoes would stink of smoke. And I’ll just be, I don’t know, at Washington Monument or the White House. It wouldn’t really work.

So I had to leave that behind. And I say I lost it, but I think it was a conscious decision at the time to leave it behind. And it’s sad times because I’d have loved to have been able to have maybe brought it back with me and have it in some sort of box as well because it was a really cool time from camp. But, unfortunately, that’s when I left behind. Okay.

So we’re at the end of this episode here, guys. I hope you enjoyed this one. Like I say, we’re in the final straight of the book being released. At the time of recording, it’s what just shy of well, even at the time this gets released, to be honest, we’re about a week away from, there’s no place like summer camp being available. So I know some people have, like, questions about where you can actually pick up the book.

If you go to Amazon at the minute, you type in there’s no place like summer camp. No matter which country you’re in, my essay, you’ll be able to see the book available in, Kindle version available to preorder. Now I’m not sure about you, but, I prefer my books in paperback. And now the unfortunate thing about paperbacks on Amazon is they don’t let you pre order them, which is really strange. So I’m having to tell people this, like, 1 by 1 when they ask me the question.

But it is going to be released as a paperback and a hardback on 4th at the same time. It’s just a shame that you can’t pre order those in advance because I I don’t understand. I don’t know why not. It’s a weird Amazon thing. So it’s gonna be available on Amazon 100% on the 4th April.

Now in the way that I’ve published this book, it’s not like the other sort of self published books that you see. This can be really picked up in any bookstore, and it can be picked up in any library. It’s not an Amazon exclusive. It can be picked up in Apple iBooks. It can be picked up in Kobo.

It can be picked up in, Waterstones, WH Smiths, any independent book retailer, anywhere like that. They will be able to search a library. I say a library, sort of like a book catalog to find the book, and they’ll be able to order it themselves. So I really do need to help, get the name out there because I can’t push Waterstones and WH Smiths to stock my book. They have to stumble upon it themselves.

And, yeah, it’s really cool. So there’s that that’s going to be coming as well. It’s not an Amazon exclusive. So if you do see it in another store, please feel free to tweet me or Instagram me or something. Or if or if there’s a retailer you think that would listen to you, go ahead and say, go and pick up There’s No Place Like Summer Camp.

It’s great. Or at least read it yourself and see what you think, and then let know. That’d be really cool. So it’s not an Amazon exclusive. It can be anywhere.

It would be so fucking insane if I stumble through, Waterstones and see my book on the shelves ready for someone’s water. And if I ever do see that, you’ll be the first to hear about it. Trust me. So, yeah, it’s not an Amazon exclusive, but it will be there on day 1. As for other retailers, it’s a case of if they pick it if they pick it up.

I hope they do. A lot of work has gone into it. A lot of work has gone into the paperback in particular. So if if if I had to recommend one version, I would recommend the paperback. It’s something that you’d be able to travel with.

It’s a size that’s, you know, suitable for a train or plane or anything like that. I personally a lot of pages to this. And that’s something that you’ll be surprised by is literally, pages to this, and that’s something that you’ll be surprised by is literally how much content I have crammed into this thing. It’s really cool. It’s a really cool project, actually, see come to an end, really.

And, like you heard at the start of this episode, I didn’t realize that it’s actually the last episode you’ll hear from me before the book actually gets released. I should have really prepared something that’s a bit more poetic, I guess. But it’s been a good run. It’s been a good run. I think what this is, like, near to the 80th episode of There’s No Place Like Summer Camp.

It’s been a it’s been a case of years of work. There’s a lot of people that I would thank, but it’s all in the book. I think it holds it stands on its own 2 feet now, and it’s in a place where it can really do justice to how good summer camp can be. And I hope that people that are listening to these podcasts are not just the people that have done summer camp before, but also those that, are considering doing camp. And I think it will paint a good picture of how good it can be and hopefully influence you to go and have the time of your lives too.

So thank you for all your support. Thank you for following me on Twitter and Instagram. Remember, if you do, you can enter the competition, which is free, and you can win your own copy, but you only have a few more days, to get your entries in. So go to there’s no place like summer camp dot com to enter. And there’s also the merchandise shop as well.

We’re all we’re kicking on all fucking cylinders here. We’ve got the merchandise shop where you can pick up your own t shirts. You can represent. There’s no place like summer camp at your own camps, and help spread the word of the podcast and the book. It’s, been a great ride with you guys.

Next week’s episode is gonna be all about the book launch. I I don’t know what to say. It’s it’s a bit that’s that’s like nuts for me to say. What? 6 years in the works, man.

And next week’s episode is all about the book launch. So I think we’re gonna leave it here. It’s it’s, surreal in a way that it’s live. I I I I don’t even know what to say. Like, normally, with these episodes, I record them over a weekend, but I’m thinking next week, because the book launches on Tuesday, aka next week from the time you hear this, I might have to record and upload the podcast on the same day or, I don’t know, the day before on that Monday that it actually drops.

I don’t know. It’s exciting. But that’s what you can tell what the next week’s episode is gonna be all about. It’s gonna be a celebration. It’s gonna be a good time to have the book finally out there.

I know so many people have asked me what’s going on with the book? Has it progressed? Is it good? What format is it gonna be on? Where can I buy it?

Where’s the paperback? Where’s this? Where’s that? What’s it about? There’s so many people that don’t realize that I actually went to a Jewish summer camp and how that sort of plays into the book as well because I’m not religious as you may be able to tell.

I’m not Jewish or anything like that, but it really adds sort of another dimension to the book. And it doesn’t come across as being all unicorns and rainbows like you think summer camp can be. It really does tell the whole story. It tells you everything, and I hope it takes you on sort of like a travel wanderlust type experience that makes you want to see more of the world, to be honest. So like I say, next week the book releases.

If you want to go and pre order the paper, the Kindle ebook, you can do so right now on Amazon. If you would rather wait for the paperback, that will be dropping on 4th, and you can order that for, you know, prime delivery. Hardback also releases on that date too. And the audiobook, that will be, probably later in the month. And, yeah, I just have to say thank you to everyone for listening.

Thank thank you for your support. I I don’t really know how to tie this off, to be honest. Like, it’s next week. It’s next week the book goes live. So I hope you enjoy it.

Like I say, paperback is my version of choice. You have the full, like, cover art. You have it feels great in the hands. And I couldn’t be more proud. The amount of work that I’ve put into this thing, I hope I hope people will appreciate that this sort of hits a niche that is full of passionate people, and, I’m chuffed, to be honest.

It’s it’s strange looking back. I couldn’t have done it by myself. A lot of it is by myself. I’m not trying to blow my own trumpet or or anything. But, there’s been my cover designer.

There’s been my editor. There’s been my formatter. There’s been people around me that have supported me. But we’ll touch upon that in the next episode. Anyway, guys, I hope you enjoyed.

I’ll see you next week. Goodbye.

Hello and welcome to “There’s No Place Like Summer Camp”. I’m your host, Andrew Waterhouse. And in today’s episode, we’re doing a review. And the review is of the “Unplugged Summer”. So, come into our tent and I’ll spill the beans.

Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of There’s No Place Like Summer Camp. Like I said at the start of this episode, this is a review of the Unplugged Summer. Which is a book by George Horner. So, I hope you enjoy this episode.

Now, I have to start with how did I come across this book? Being a part of There’s No Place Like Summer Camp, and releasing my book very soon, I always keep an eye out for new summer camp related books on Amazon. This happened to turn up and it piqued my interest because it’s an Englishman’s perspective of life at an American summer camp. Now, if that’s the subtitle, that’s going to hook me in. It is pretty much the whole point of my book. So, it piqued my interest. And I had to order myself a physical copy, whenever I do get the chance to order a book, especially those around summer camp.

I don’t want to get an eBook, I want to get the physical copy and see what it’s like, as the author intended, and all of the work that they’ve put into it. So, what I have here is a copy of his book. And if you’ve followed me on Instagram, you would have seen a couple of months ago that I received this and I let it die. I didn’t do any follow-up episodes, I didn’t comment any further on this book. And the reason for that, and I do apologise if George is following this… I didn’t post anything about this, because it’s a book that I don’t like. But we’ll get into that.

So, before we begin, I just want to remind you guys that there is a competition at the minute. If you go to theresnoplacelikesummercamp.com/competition, you can win yourselves a copy of my book. Now there are two books available as eBooks. And there’s one paperback available as well. Whoever wins, I might get in touch with you to see if you want it signed, which I can do, which will be pretty cool. So, if you want to enter, all you have to do is go to theresnoplacelikesummercamp.com, all you have to do is click on the links. If you follow me on Twitter or Instagram, you get yourself some entries, but you have to go to that page to enter. I think you get an entry for following me on Twitter and an entry for following us on Instagram. And you also have a chance to sign up for a newsletter as well. All you have to do is type in your email address, and you have an extra entry. So, you’ve got until the 1st of April, if you want to get in with a chance of winning a book. It’s only open to the UK only because I have to post it myself. And it’s going to cost a bit of an arm and a leg to send it anywhere else. But if you are interested in picking up There’s No Place Like Summer Camp, it does release on the fourth of April. So, it’s not that far away now. And I hope that the people that are listening to this, in the very far future. Know that the books sort of out now. If you’re listening to this beyond the fourth of April 2020. So, it’s out it’s available on Amazon. But if you’re listening to this at the time of upload, it’s not so let’s crack on with the rest of this episode.

Okay, so I’ve talked about how I found this book in the first place. I like to keep an eye on the latest published months of summer camp books. And it piqued my interest and Unplugged Summer and Englishman’s perspective on life at an American summer camp. Now, I want to start with the back of this book, because it’s going to give you a lot of perspective on what to expect from this.

So, it was in September 2014 when George Horner began his quest of spending the following summer in America. He’s hoping to work at an American summer camp, a place of unfamiliarity with limited access to social media, and with numerous kids to supervise. This memoir reveals the challenging journey for the Englishman in his pursuit of being welcomed on board by a summer camp director.

We were working at an America Can summer camp become his destiny? Will he be embarking on the most memorable summer? George is from Hampshire, England. His enthusiasm for sport led him to achieve a BA Honors Degree in sports development at the University of Chichester in 2013. He then focused his career progression in the health and social care sector. And in February 2019, he completed a two-year Postgraduate Diploma in adult nursing, based at the University of Southampton.

This has enabled him to become a registered nurse at the NHS. With all his achievements in his life so far, including the writing of this book, perseverance was the key.

So that’s the whole premise of this book. And you have to understand that the angle of this book that it tries to take you down is how technology is not evident, or very much in the background of volunteering at summer camp. And it’s a different angle from the other ones that I’ve read. Now, George here goes to volunteer at Camp Ace Invaders. And it’s through a programme called Wild Packs, which I hadn’t heard of before. But Wild Packs are like what Camp America is Camp Leaders and all that good stuff. That’s something I’ve only really noticed since doing this podcast, by the way, and getting balls deep into the summer camp stratosphere sort of thing is. How many different programmes there are? But I’d never heard of Wild Packs until I read this book. But it’s similar to Camp America, I think he goes for this programme because they pay slightly better than Camp America. But anyway, I’m beside the point.

So, at the start of this podcast, I said that I wish there was more from this book. So, I have to start with the shite points of this book. So, the first thing that gave it away to, me was there were 73 pages before he’s even at summer camp. It’s so much rambling. Like I say, if George is listening to this, it’s not personal. It’s not envying, jealousy. It’s just a guy behind a microphone trying to do a bit of a review, I like to read a lot. And I think I’m considerably older than you as well. So, don’t take it personally. But this is just my opinion. I think it’s good to have these dialogues. I can recommend things to my audience because I think some people may click with this idea. They might think, oh, you know what, that’s quite a good angle. Actually. This is just my personal opinion,.. So, take it with a grain of salt.

But yeah, The Unplugged Summer is all about how technology is disconnected from summer camp. And why straightaway found was this so much rambling in this book, 73 pages before you’re actually at summer camp, you hear so many times, where camps come and go during the interview stage that is so laborious and boring, you go through quite a few chapters, where you just look back and go, Why the fuck was that in? Like, why are we talking about this interview that he had with the summer camp and then fell through? It kind of gives you a bit more of the background of what it’s like to go and apply for summer camp. But I don’t think it needs to be in there when you’re talking to say four or five or six different summer camps. And then you finally land that position.

There’s a whole chapter in there as well about how monotonous the stages are for camp. And at one point, he kicks off with the director, because there are so many stages that he’s just getting frustrated. I just found it quite funny in a way because that shouldn’t be in the book. I can understand the frustration of someone that’s young going into camp, and maybe it’s their first job and getting frustrated with the number of stages there are because there certainly are loads of stages to go into summer camp. But I didn’t understand why he kicks off – maybe he has some sort of bad day. And that’s the problem with this book throughout is that there’s no context and there’s no development of the page. There’s a lot of telling to the reader rather than showing them. And that’s a skill that I’ve had to try and pick up in the six years now that I’ve been working on, There’s No Place Like Summer Camp, but I’ll get onto that a little bit more in a second.

There’s a whole chapter in this book that’s based on him passing a driving test. Now, I don’t know what the hell that has to do with being in an Unplugged Summer camp. But I guess it gives you a bit of background to this guy and the run-up into summer camp. For me, it started way, way too soon. Because I wanted to get to the meat, I wanted to get to the time that he’s actually at summer camp and seeing that effect of no technology while they are at camp.

The writing, I didn’t get like, the structure of this book, I didn’t understand. And that’s a real, real core problem of Unplugged Summer. It’s not in a structure where it’s day by day, it’s not in a structure where it’s chronological. And it’s not even in a structure where it’s like, week by week, it’s or like a summary of events. Sometimes it goes from one day to the next and there’s really mundane things there. At other times, it just skips over whole loads of weeks, especially when he’s actually at camp, which is funny enough, because the whole point of the book is to be about summer camp. But I was frustrated as a reader, especially as someone that was outside of this summer camp, because reading this, it was such a mishmash of people timeframes and tenses were made it hard for me to read. I can kind of take that with like a pinch of salt, because I know it’s a self-published book he’s done through the KDP programme. But when I was reading this, I was just so frustrated because it just needed a bit more care and attention and a bit more time. I didn’t know for instance, who’s who, who’s friends with who. And that’s a really hard problem to try and sort of fix as an author of a book.

That’s why it took me so long to get There’s No Place Like Summer Camp up to its release where it is today. Getting it to a point where it can be released to the public, and it’s going to be readable for the Average Joe, it’s not just going to be readable for those that are at my camp. It’s a lot more work to it than just throwing something together based on memory, and jumping all over the place, especially with the tenses and the rhythm of the book.

There’s a whole chapter in this book as well on a rainy day where George has played some football. And then he goes on a Skype call. Now, that’s a fucking chapter of the book. I don’t like to swear, but what is the point of that chapter. I’ve summed up a whole chapter of this book, where he’s saying, I’ll play some football, it rained today, and I went on Skype. What’s that doing in there? I don’t care that you did those three things that such mundane things that I could easily do at home. I didn’t understand the connection of why the unplug summer, sort of tied in with stories like that, where Skype calls, you had a Skype call. Okay, cool. Tell me a bit more. Tell me. What does that mean? So what I found that there was way too much description of really mundane boring things like the setup of an icebreaker, rather than the people that he’s meeting.

Surely when you go to summer camp, the people are the most important part and the relationships that people have and meeting strangers for the first time and becoming friends with those people. That’s the whole core of summer camp to me. And I’m sure that resonates with a lot of you have been to summer camp yourselves. It’s not about what are the exact rules of the icebreaker and did it rain today? Or did I have a Skype call to home. Now this is a cutting review. And I do apologise. But I think it gives you some perspective on the amount of work it takes to try and get a book that’s out there that’s going to be entertaining, educational and insightful. And that’s what I have tried to do with There’s No Place Like Summer Camp now.

I’m not criticizing this book like I’m saying There’s No Place Like Summer Camp is going to be perfect.

Because I could see a lot of connections when I was reading George’s book here that remind myself of my time applying through the story and I’m getting myself through those processes and sort of, you know, I could see a lot of connections between our story and his or my story in his short essay. But I think it just needed a lot more work. And I was surprised actually to see at the end of the book, there’s a lot of thankyous to the people that sort of helped him to get to where he is now. And I was surprised to see that there were two editors on this.

Now, I saw a lot of issues with I think what you he needed was sort of an overall big picture, zoom out of the book, see what’s the problems with the overall rather than the spelling. I think, where the problem is, with this book is the spelling is perfect. I can’t fault the spelling. I can’t fault the grammar or anything like that, I can only follow the overall story because it’s so hard to read, and the structure is all over the place. And I’m really surprised that two editors couldn’t point that out to George.

So, like I say, there’s a lot of skimming over the details that you wish you’d learn a bit more about. Like, I want to know more about the camp, I want to know how big it is, what sort of people are there. I want to know about the specialties like there’s times during this book where I was just so frustrated, but I kept going through it because, I’m writing a book on it, I need to see what “the competition” do. But I was struck. It’s an uphill read. If you get this book, it’s going to be an uphill read. And like I say, I’m not trying to slag anyone off. I’m not saying that my book is going to be perfect. I expect reviews like this for my book. And I think constructive criticism helps.

I’m not trying to get personal. I’m not saying George is a bad person. I’m not saying anything like that. I’m saying this project for me, personally, it didn’t connect with me. I wish it could have been better because there were some real ingredients there. That could have been so good. Like, he skips over partway, about walking past the circus specialty. And I’m like “Circus specialty!? Tell me more about that!” I would have loved to have known more about this circus specialty. I didn’t know circus was a thing that summer camps teach. What is that? Like? Did he ever have a go? It sounds so cool. But yet, it’s just skimmed over. It’s just like, oh, yeah, walk past this circle specialty. When I was taking the kids back to the cabin. Okay. You’ve just missed a real opportunity there to tell me more about your camp in particular. And I think Michael Eisner does quite well in his book. Something that I’d recommend, I did enjoy his book, a lot more than this.

Similar to the circus speciality, also skimmed over is speed boating. One of the characters he introduces is a speed boating teacher or specialist. I want to know about speed boating. That sounds cool. Did George go on speed boating? I don’t know. Was it something that he just cut out from the book? Or is there a reason he didn’t go on the speed boating himself? Did he ever take the kids speed boating? This is frustrating because I can’t answer that and other read the book. But it’s something that The Unplugged Summer I wished delved into those details. I wish he went into a bit more about how George was thinking at the time. I think the overall bigger picture of this book is so hard to pinpoint what he’s trying to achieve here. Because it’s not so much a diary. But it’s not so much a story either. It’s nothing, there’s no base there’s no structure, there’s no thought that’s been put behind. This is exactly what I’m going to tell and why. But I have to say that adding the detail to the behind the very start of going to some accounts. That was quite cool. I have to say it’s “quite cool”, but it just went on for way too long 73 pages before you get to summer camp. Now I can tell you, that’s way too much.

Okay, I’ll finish on my last beef with this book, okay? There’s more conversation with the camps that George didn’t get into, than his first two days at camp. Now, that does sum up this book because I don’t care about the camps that he talked to one time and didn’t get in. I care about the camp that he’s going to. When I look back and think about my summer camp experience. I don’t remember exactly all of the camps that I spoke to, the process that I went through and how frustrating it was. Or even almost quitting because there’s too many steps. I don’t care about that. I care about the time spent account, the admin and boring side of paying, going for an interview, going to the doctors, getting a CRB check. That’s such mundane stuff, that it was just like I say, it was frustrating. And to see that there were more conversations with the people that he got interviewed for and then didn’t get the positions. Or he decided the camp wasn’t for him. I don’t care. I care about those first two days at camp a lot more because they’re the people that you can be at camp with. And I think it missed the mark on that one.

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So, I’ve gone over the bad points of this book. The good points. Like I say there’s a lot of there’s a lot in this book that I could kind of see myself connecting the dots from my story to his. There’s a lot in this book about mental health, which is cool. He opens up quite a bit. And for some reason he goes on he goes on these random tangents like talking about Robin Williams his death. I don’t know why that’s in the book, but he touches upon it. But he goes into mental health quite a lot. And I think this may have been written a time where now I’m completely guessing here. This may have been written at a time where he’s trying to reminisce and I don’t know what I’m trying to say. But I like how he opens up in this book. He opens this up. He’s opens himself up well.

There’s a whole chapter in this book about him going to the London embassy getting the visa. And he paints that picture well. I enjoyed that chapter. That was the first chapter and that’s probably about page 50 that I thought are finally we’re starting to get into summer camp. He’s not doing a driving test. He’s not bored at work. He’s not applying and passed finding and applying for all these different summer camps. He’s getting his visa. And I was like Jesus Christ this time. But I enjoyed that scenario. I even had the same problem that George had, when he went to the embassy and he had missed out printing a certain document and had to go to some Cafe down the road, I had to do the exact same thing. So, seeing that in his book is cool. Because as a complete noob, to travelling myself, I didn’t have all the documents and I remember what it felt like when I had to go to this cafe down the road thinking, oh my god, I’m a complete idiot. No one else does this, who goes into a shop and asks to use their printer for fuck sake. But to see it’s a common thing. And quite a few people do it. It was cool to see.

There’s a point in this book where he talks about Four Loko, which is a drink that I had at camp. And that was a cool touching point for me where I thought, you know what, there is something here, there is something here, I do like this. Now, George does a lot of the sleeping with the kids, because I think he’s a counsellor, if I remember rightly so, he sleeps in the kid’s cabins. And there are a couple of funny moments. But the one that stood out for me is when he’s scared of their sleepwalking. They just like stand up in the middle of the room and just like look down on him, and he’s just like, Oh, my God, what the fuck? And he just sat there like do I did do I disturb him? Do I wake him up? Now, you’re not supposed to do that it’s a real bad thing to do for someone that sleepwalking. That was quite funny.

And also liked the end of colour war, he summarized colour war quite well, especially with the closing point of the two sides of the camp, finally, finishing that war, and now coming together as one and celebrating the end of colour war. That’s something that I think a lot of summer camps will relate to..

So, like I say, this book, I have to say, I can’t give it a great score. It reads well, there’s no spelling problems. But the strange focus on the technology side, the tenses that are all over the place. There’s a lot of telling in this book, rather than showing the reader and letting them use their imagination to like paint the picture of the things that you don’t tell the person. There’re way too many adverbs I found it was just hard to read. And it’s disappointing because I want to see other people’s stories. And I think one of the dreams for there’s no place that summer camp is to inspire other people to tell their story. Because 1000s of people do this all the time. And everyone comes back saying it’s the time of their lives. And now I’m going to publish my story of why summer camp for me was the time of mine. It took a lot of work to get my book to that point. And there’s going to be people that think its shit, there’s going to be people that love it, I hope. And I hope it inspires people to tell their own story. But I just couldn’t see that with this one.

I think there are a lot of fundamental issues, especially when there are two editors on board. I don’t know if he just hired ones that do spell-check. And that’s disappointing. But overall, a half, I can’t help but give a harsh score, because I want to stay true to myself, Okay, I don’t want to give fake scores out there. And then people go and buy a book because I recommend something. And then they’re like, actually, this is complete crap. So, I think as a score, I’m going to have to give it 2 out of 10. That’s as high as I can go. To be honest. The reason it gets 2 rather than 1out of 10 is that the Summer Camp Association because it’s a genre I like and I like to see new books within that genre because I think like I say, it’s interests me. I like to see how my camp compared to others. I just really hoped that there was there was a lot more and a lot more strategy around the book. I think it needed a lot more time in the workshop, to sort of think about how it’s written. Why is there this massive 76 Page start to this book? Why is there no telling of the story after camp and travelling with friends and that sort of thing?

I just think it missed the mark. And now I know that this comes across as in a review. That’s just absolutely slugging a book off. I know that it’s not a good look. And that’s why I’ve taken this time to go away. Think about if I want to upload this book review, and I came to the decision that I should, because if I’m not true to myself, then I don’t know what this podcast will be. And like I say, this podcast, this book that I’m writing myself, it’s a self-passion. It’s a self-starting project a side hustles you may or may think, and a lot of the podcasters and podcasts that I listen to say, you have to be true to yourself, you can’t lie. You can’t hide the truth. How are you going to grow personally, if you just keep lying to people, and you’re going to get yourself tied in knots. But also, it’s good for the person that’s not being lied to. Because I think deep down, I think in a few years, he will look back on this book and think I shouldn’t have released that. Because it feels half-finished. I think the angle that he was trying to go for with the Unplugged Summer was an interesting one.

When I saw it on Amazon, I thought that’s an interesting take, like no one’s talked about how the lack of technology is like a summer camp. But it doesn’t touch upon that at all. And it rambles far too much. And the subtitle of the book is an Englishman’s perspective of life at the American summer camp, but it’s a sort of a nothing eBook. So, like I say, two out of 10. For me, it’s harsh. If I had to give out a five it would be one out of five. And it’s not a nice thing to say. But I think you know, if I’m reading these books, I should give my opinion on them. Because I want there’s no places like summer camp to be sort of like a good place for people that are passionate about summer camp, and a good place of reliable information for my opinion on things. I don’t want to be lying on my own content.

So anyway, I’m going to wrap up this episode. I hope you enjoy it. There are other summer camp books I have read. And I haven’t done a review of on the podcasts. I can imagine people that have written a book about summer camp, or they’re like, oh, fuck, after all that off there, all that review, you’re going to go and read mine. And I’m like, hell yeah, I’m going to go read yours. But like I say, I have read, I think two other summer camp books that haven’t reviewed on the podcast yet. And I’ll be interested to try and get the people on the podcast. So, George, if you’re listening, I have nothing against you. I have nothing against anyone that I sort of talk about on this podcast. I want to have open dialogue on a reminisce about your time at summer camp. So, if you want to come on, get in touch. I’m available on Twitter at Andrew WO9. You can also enter the competition as well. theresnoplacelikesummercamp.com/competition.

It’s been a long podcast, okay. All right, guys. I’ll see in the next week’s episode. Who knows what it’ll be but yeah, I hope you enjoyed this one. It’s I can’t recommend Unplugged Summer. It’s a different angle for sure. But it’s not an angle that worked with me.

Right then. We’re in the home straight.

If you’d told me back in 2014, standing in the Georgia heat covered in bug spray and surrounded by extremely loud children, that I’d one day be sitting here with a finished book about to drop — I probably would have laughed, tripped over a root, and blamed it on a camper. But here we are. The book is actually happening. And it’s happening soon.

At the time of recording this episode, There’s No Place Like Summer Camp is one month away from being on Amazon. One. Month. That’s not very long at all when you consider the thing has been in the works since 2016, has had approximately four different names, two cover redesigns, and one very long pandemic in the middle of it.

I’ll be honest — I thought I’d feel more prepared than I do. I thought by this point I’d be sitting in a high-backed chair with a cup of tea, smugly admiring a finished product. Instead I’m recording this and mentally listing all the things I still need to do before launch day. It’s fine. It’s totally fine.

Without giving too much away (because that would be telling), the final stretch of any creative project is basically a long game of whack-a-mole. You fix one thing and three more pop up. I’ve been going back and forth over cover details, making sure the formatting looks right across ebook, paperback and hardback, and doing all the boring admin that nobody ever tells you about when you decide to become an author.

The audiobook is also in the works, although if you’re holding your breath for that one at launch, don’t. We’ll get there. Rome wasn’t built in a day, and neither, it turns out, is a narrated version of a summer camp memoir.

I need to go heads-down on this. The podcast isn’t going anywhere permanently — I just need to stop talking about the book and actually finish getting it out the door. If you’ve ever had a massive deadline coming up and someone keeps asking you to do other things, you’ll understand the vibe.

So for the next few weeks, it’s going to go a bit quiet on the episode front. But when we come back, it’ll be with something worth shouting about. Namely: the book is out. Which, if you haven’t gathered by now, is kind of a big deal to me.

In case you’re new and wondering what this is all about — There’s No Place Like Summer Camp is a memoir of my time volunteering with Camp America in 2014. I went to Camp Honeystone in Georgia as an Outdoor Living Specialist, which is a fancy way of saying I ran campfires, led hikes, and spent three months being absolutely bossed around by eight-year-olds who knew far more about American pop culture than I ever will.

The book is the full story. The good bits, the hard bits, the bits that probably shouldn’t be repeated in polite company, and everything in between. It’s been a long time coming and I am incredibly proud of it.

Right. I’m going to stop recording and go and make this thing happen. If you want to know the moment it goes live, follow along on Instagram or sign up to the newsletter. And if you want to get yourself a free preview of the first chapter before you commit to buying it, that’s available over at theresnoplacelikesummercamp.com/free-preview.

See you on the other side.

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Hello everyone, and welcome to another episode of “There’s No Place Like Summer Camp”. I’m your host Andrew Waterhouse. And in today’s episode, we’re taking a look at and reviewing Michael Eisner’s Camp Book. So coming into our tent, and I’ll spill those juicy, juicy beans.

Hello everyone, and welcome to another episode of “There’s No Place Like Summer Camp”. I hope you’re doing well. It’s a nice summery day, which feels very out of place for January. And I’ve just spent the last probably week or two reading Michael Eisner’s Camp Book. Now, this was touched upon in a previous podcast where I was looking at the celebrities that have gone to camp, or famous people should I say? And Michael Eisner stood out because he’s the former CEO of Disney. And what stood out even further was, as I was recording the podcast, I found out that he released a book all about his time at summer camp, which is cool to see. Of course, if you’re brand new to this podcast, you may not know this. There’s No Place Like Summer Camp is all about summer camp, of course. But there’s also the book that’s been in the works for a long time. So let me just start with that.

So the book is coming on well. I am so close to finishing it. I’m not sure if I should give you the full ins and outs. But let me just say, some very progressive stages have been completed now. And the release date will be very imminent. I’m getting some author copies just to double-check that the book looks right and feels right in the hand. I can’t say too much more. But “There’s No Place Like Summer Camp” is not only just a podcast, it is a book as well. So when I stumbled upon any summer Camp book really, I always make sure to give it a buy, and try and give it a review. I think I’ve only done one of these reviews before, but I have read a fair few. So look out for those future episodes. But anyway, let’s crack on with Michael Eisner’s Camp.

So who is Michael Eisner, that’s probably a good place to start? Because maybe you’re not all familiar with who he was. But when I saw his name and my research, it stood out to me, because he is the former CEO of Disney. And that’s a big name if I’ve ever seen one in business. He had volunteered at a camp called “Keewaydin” for many years. So he volunteered at camp as a staff member for four years, but he had gone to camp as a camper for many years too. He once told in an interview, obviously, as a CEO, you get interviewed quite a lot by the press and the media and that sort of thing. One of the questions that came up to him one time was, where was the place that you learned everything you needed to become the CEO of Disney? He pondered about this question for a little while, and then came back with summer camp Keewaydin. The interviewer sort of like chuckled, and I think the rest of the room did too.

But the more he thought about it, the more he was assured that he learned the most for becoming a CEO of such a great company as Disney at summer camp rather than school, university college or any of that, and that was telling. I might butcher the name, but I’m gonna stick with Keewaydin as the name and that was something that I’ve found with this book. There are so many different names and funny names for things. So not only have you got a strange name for the camp Keewaydin. There are so many funny things or terms for things that I was reading in his book where I was sort of like, what’s this? So he’s got a thing called by, this is probably common lingo for someone in America but I’d never heard of beds referred to as cots. So throughout the whole book, he was talking about sitting on their cot, and I was like they’re caught this. There are all these campuses are sleeping in cots because obviously, a cot in the UK is sort of like a baby bed, very small baby bed is the best way I can describe it as like sort of gated sides. So the bed you drop the baby in, you put the baby to sleep, you can look over, should they’re still in the bed, they can’t roll out or anything like that. And that’s what a cot is to me. But during this book, they seem to be using a cot as a bed a lot of the time.

So I don’t know if that’s just an American thing, and I was just getting confused. But they also have words like coupe, which is like their version of certifications and getting some recognition for the stuff that they do around camp, which was pretty cool. Week wham, which is the night which is the word for the names of the units. And they refer to their staff as staff men, they don’t call them counsellors or specialists or anything like that. They call them staff men. And that was interesting. That was cool. Just to get a bit of perspective into how different summer camps run and their terminology of things was cool. And right at the back of the book, you do get a camp dictionary, which I kind of wish at the start of the book, they said that the dictionary was there because it wasn’t that well spelt out. And another little minor point, this is where I’m touching upon some poor writing. I’m talking like I’m a fucking JK Rowling over here. It’s not the case, trust me. This is just my first venture, but I like to review books. I’m an avid reader, and this genre appeals to me. But just when I was reading the camp dictionary at the end, as well, there were so many times in there that weren’t referenced in the book. And I get that there’s a lot of nostalgia for Keewaydin. And the terminology that he may have used around camp, but when I was reading that camp dictionary, I was just like, you haven’t even mentioned half of these words. But that’s just a minor point. I’m talking like, I’m JK Rowling. So I need to get off my high horse and continue with the rest of the review.

So, what is Keewaydin? Well, Keewaydin, and this is what I really liked about reading this book. It offers you a different perspective on what different summer camps are like now. You will know that the summer camp that I volunteered at for two years, was a Jewish summer camp. And coming from an outside perspective, with no Jewish upbringing, no knowledge about Judaism or anything like that, and not being religious myself at all. I sort of came into the summer camp that I went to, with sort of open eyes and learning a new culture. Keewaydin it’s a different type of camp. It’s not a religious one. It’s a canoeing camp, and it’s only for boys. So that was interesting, just to get a different kind of camp. One of the things that they often do, Keewaydin is tripping. Now, this is a big part of their camp where they take a few days out of the camp schedule to take campers canoeing and going on massive canoe trips, camping outside of the normal camp bounds of Keewaydin. And sort of getting that independence to cook your food, make sure you get there in one piece and make sure you’re sort of surviving in a way.

So going to read about a different camping experience was cool. And I think if you have the passion for summer camp a little bit over the top as I do in a way, I think you’ll enjoy reading this book, it gives you a different perspective and how different camps can run. I loved this book, how he talks about a lot of the firsts, like the unease of growing older, taking responsibility, being a bit of a counsellor, and staff men for these kids, and feeling like an adult for the first time and making the sort of mistakes as you do as you’re growing up. But I have to say, it’s a completely different experience to what my camp was like. Now, of course, my background when I was volunteering at my summer camp was as an outdoor living specialist. So I was responsible for taking the kids out on their campouts and it was similar in a way too there. So the Keewaydin way of taking kids out on their canoe trips and staying away from camp for a little bit. I can see there’s a cross similarity there. But what likes baffled me was hearing about these spa sessions, these staff men would set up for these kids so they’d be doing their campout stuff and they’d be doing a campfire and the tents would be all sort of like, maybe a bit wet, maybe their clothes are a bit wet. So what these staff members would do, would put rocks within the campfire. Cook up some rocks, get them to really hot temperatures, pick them up with like a shovel or something and dump them into a tent. And what essentially that would create is sort of like a spa inside the tent. And that was ringing so many alarm bells for me. As someone that took kids out on camp trips, I would never put boiling hot rocks within the tent to try and create a sparse theme room sort of atmosphere.

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Now this story is all about Michael Eisner and his perspective of summer camp. Now I’ve touched upon how you get a different perspective with this book because this is coming from a CEO of Disney for number one, is coming from someone that’s had many years of being a camper number two. And number three, he’s been a stockman, that’s number three. Number four is, that he’s also got the perspective of after camp now. And after his Disney times and being a parent and sort of having the scholarship schemes where he can take camp unprivileged underclass, I don’t know if that’s the right term, but unprivileged sort of campers to camp. So you’re getting a very mixed perspective on summer camps, you can tell that this is someone that has camp running in their DNA. So you get a lot of different stories and a lot of different time jumps within this book, and that’s where I found the writing hard to read. And sort of understanding why certain chapters were in there entirely. I think that is a tricky challenge to try and do when you’re fucking CEO of Disney for Christ’s sake.

This is sort of a side hustle like a hobby ish type of book. So I understand why it was quite a hard book to write. And it would have been very hard to reminisce about summer camp without hopping all over the place because he wasn’t someone from what I could tell that wrote about summer camp while he was there, similar to what There’s No Place Like Summer Camp is all about. So it was cool to get that perspective of those four different stages of where he has had camp run through him. And a lot of this book, he dedicates to one individual called Waboos. And this gentleman is a Camp Director that has camp running through their DNA. He’s been running the camp for like 80 years and he’s sort of the heartbeat of this camp, and he means a lot to Michael Eisner. It’s sad to see that Waboos has passed away since this book has been released. But I’m sure Keewaydin gave him a very good send off as well as sort of like the flower bed they created when his wife passed away shortly before he did.

So, there’s a big part of this book dedicated to Waboos. And how this Waboos guy was very involved with all of the kids would recognize all of their faces, all of their intricate stories. And he’d be doing it year after year after year after year, and he would live and breathe summer camp, and this person that sort of kept them going as well. So they did have some tricky times, like back, I think it was just shortly after World War II, they were struggling with finances, and they potentially were going to sell the camp off. And he was one of those rescuers that came to the camps aid and has been with them ever since. And he’s been with camp since he was about eight years old, from what I could tell. So he did live and breathe Keewaydin. And a big part of this book is dedicated to him. So I’m sure a lot of us listening to this podcast today can sympathize and also understand that there are those characters where you go to summer camp, and you have those people that just literally live and breathe it and bring such an energy to your summer camp that makes it so special for you. So I appreciated how in detail, he went with Waboos and also dedicating the entire book to him.

Now, midway on from this book, not only do we talk about Waboos, but we touch upon two campers. So there’s two campers called Que and Pepe. Now, these are campers that are going through Michael Eisner’s scheme, where it’s like a charity foundation sort of type of thing. They bought two campers in from California. And they’re from dodgy sort of backgrounds where they can’t afford to do anything. The Disney program, I think it’s called growth or something like that. Accelerate or power, Disney something, there’s a Disney program that sponsors kids to do these sort of things, which is really cool. And these two kids that went to, that are focused on in this book, I’m sure there’s hundreds of kids that go every year. But for particularly this book, Que and Pepe are focused upon. It’s cool to see how these two particular campers grow and become familiar and make so many friends and the inner workings of what camp is like how they become these outsiders to intermingling with the people that have been coming for some time or a local to the area. It’s just really cool to sort of see two different perspectives because you have I think it’s the Que that’s very outgoing, very sporty, very cool, gets all the girls. Then there’s Pepe who’s a little bit more reserved, but they both come from these backgrounds, where all of their friends back home are sort of getting into drugs, drinks, and violence and that sort of thing. So I think Michael here has sort of demonstrated that camp does have a touching effect on so many people. And this is just to campers that he particularly singled out because they go on such a transformative journey by the end of it.

Now, I previously touched upon how there’s like four different sort of sections to this book, how he was combat himself, how he was a staff man, how he’s a dad with his own son going to camp and how Michael has this foundation bringing these kids through the camp scholarship sort of program. And the one of the other really interesting parts was the part where his son is going to camp for the first time. I think his name was called Breck or something. And what he’s done is, he sort of keeps all those nerves and excitement in this. Breck, son of Michael Eisner knows at the age that he’s going. I think he was about eight years old when he was going to come for the first time. He understands that this is an important place to his dad, his granddad and all the generations before have been going to this camp. And when Michael Eisner is taking his son there and dropping him off, Michael in his head sort of knows that this is going to be a transformative experience for him. And it was cool to see how Michael was not trying to cover him in candy floss, and make him safe with bubble wrap and that sort of thing because he knows that there’s going to be ups and downs and it’s sort of the first time that Breck is going to be, I was gonna say Brock, but that’s someone from Pokemon.

Breck is going to have his ups and downs on the roller coaster at camp, and he’s going to miss home because it’s the first time that he is living away from his parents and that sort of thing. And I’m not, I don’t know if you know this, but I don’t have any children yet. But when I was reading this book, I was like, Oh, that’s a different perspective, or something I wouldn’t have thought about. And because I’m not a parent, I don’t understand yet the anxieties of having your child and sort of trying to bring them up, but also not trying to close them off from having their own experiences and understanding things in their mind without being told how to experience things by their dad sort of thing. So that was cool as well.

In closing, this review, I think that “Camp” by Michael Eisner is a great book. It’s by someone that has camping their DNA. And it’s coming from someone that is very high up as you’d like to say, I don’t know if you know the ins and outs of the Disney story and that sort of separate to this book. But Michael Eisner is no longer with Disney. He left as this book was being published, which was a bit strange, but this was always a side project and something that he would always sort of like come back to reset his mind. He’s no longer with Disney. But he’s still very successful. He’s currently owning many different businesses. And the one that stood out to me was Portsmouth Football Club, which is pretty crazy. So he is in the UK, which is a bit strange, or at least he occasionally visits to come and support that team. But like I say, it is a great book, you get a lot of different perspectives, coming from someone high up as well is cool to just sort of tell that story in the passion that he has for summer camp. And he touches upon a lot of firsts within the book as well, which is something that I’ve tried to do with mine, because summer camp for me, I could kind of relate.

There was a lot of things that I did at camp where they were first for me, and the amount of responsibility that you’d have and the growth that everyone goes through not just the staff, but also the campers too, it’s cool. And he does come across that well. The only thing that I didn’t like about this was the writing it had, it has to deduct some points for this for me. It was really hard to read. And I think that is a shame because there is so much there that comes across well. But it’s just told, it’s told in a clunky sort of way, the time hopping doesn’t help. And I think that could have just been a bit more polished in my opinion. But I think this is a good book. I like after say this, because I am jealous of the inner design work of the first, like the hardcover, you open the book and the first pages you see a map of the camp, and that’s cool. That’s something that’s always going to be there for years and years to come. And that’s something that sticks with me as my book is about to be published. I’m going to be long gone, and my book is still going to be around.

Hopefully it’ll be in people’s homes, hopefully, it’ll be in charity shops and available online. That’s something that happens with these books, they’re always going to be available. They’re going to outlast you and having this dedication to Keewaydin and Waboos and how formative the camp was, and having that image of the map just sort of show how it all comes together, and that sort of thing is cool. It’s touching piece. So anyway, it’s a good book. I did enjoy it. I have to say it’s not probably going to be for everyone, but I think if you really enjoy camp and you like Disney particularly, it’s going to be an interesting read. It gives you a lot of different perspectives like I say, there are plenty of worse books out there. So in my review, I give this 7/10. Okay, guys, I hope you enjoyed this episode that was “Camp” by Michael Eisner.

I’m excited to try and like see where this podcast goes. Because this wasn’t an episode that I planned at all. I think the sort of episodes can come up and come from the blue. So Michael, if you’re listening, I’m always here. You can reach me on Twitter at @androow09. We’re also available in Instagram, theresnoplacelikesummercamp, or you can go to theresnoplacelikesummercamp.com/contact. And there’s like a contact form there. But I think interviewing celebrities, man, I call him a celebrity. I don’t think that celebrity is the right term. It’s a CEO. It’s an ex-CEO, it’s someone that’s famous. It’s someone that’s been successful celebrity to me, it’s someone that’s appeared on a reality TV show and that’s not the case for this guy. So we’ll see what happens.

Anyway, guys, I hope you enjoyed this one. It was certainly different. Camp is available on platforms like Amazon and eBay and that sort of place you’d be out. I think you’d be able to get them secondhand by now. Because this was released in 2005. I don’t know if they’re still printing this, but have a look. I don’t think it’d be too expensive. For anyone that’s interested in Camp, for anyone it’s interested in Keewaydin, especially if you’ve been there, 100% the one for you. Give it a read. It’s going to be going on my bookshelf, and hopefully, mine will be alongside it very soon.

Okay, guys, I hope you enjoyed it. If you did, please subscribe. Please like the podcast. Tell your friends. Tell your mom, and I’ll see you next Tuesday. All right, bye.

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