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  • Episode 309: At What Point Is Fed Not Best? A Deep Dive into the Impact of Childhood Nutrition on Health Equity and Outcomes with Trista Sebastian

    Today, Ashley welcomes Trista Sebastian, an expert in Early Childhood Education and a self-proclaimed nutrition guru, for an in-depth conversation about the critical role childhood nutrition plays in shaping the health and development of young minds and bodies. Together, they explore how proper nutrition during these formative years influences not only immediate behavioral patterns and academic performance but also long-term health outcomes and social equity. Trista sheds light on the profound connection between what children eat and their physical, emotional, and cognitive well-being, emphasizing the lasting effects that early dietary habits can have on adulthood. This thought-provoking discussion also examines how nutrition intersects with health equity, addressing systemic barriers and disparities that impact children’s access to healthy food. Don’t miss this enlightening episode that underscores why what we feed our children today determines the adults they become tomorrow.

    Trista Sebastian is an Early Childhood Education teacher from Cincinnati, Ohio. . Currently serving as the lead teacher at a preschool, Trista not only nurtures young minds in the classroom but also oversees the school’s nutrition program, ensuring that her students have access to healthy, balanced meals. Her passion for childhood nutrition began during a deeply personal journey—her pregnancy with her daughter—which inspired her to dive deeper into the connection between nutrition and early development. Since then, Trista has dedicated herself to advocating for the importance of proper nutrition in shaping children’s health, behavior, and future outcomes. Her unique blend of classroom expertise and hands-on experience with childhood nutrition makes her an invaluable voice in this vital conversation.

    48 min
  • Episode 308: Nursing the Future: Why We Can’t Replenish the Workforce Fast Enough with Dr. Kim Kelly-Cortez

    In today’s Episode, Ashley sits down with Dr. Kim Kelly-Cortez to explore challenges nursing schools face, such as faculty shortages, limited clinical training slots, high burnout rates among current educators, and the financial barriers students encounter. We also delve into the ripple effects of these issues on healthcare, such as staffing shortages, overworked nurses, and potential impacts on patient care quality.

    Dr. Kimberly Kelly Cortez is the Senior Associate Dean and Director for the Prelicensure BSN program at Western Governors University. She continues to support the growth of the Prelicensure program by expanding into additional states, opening simulation centers/labs, expanding access to communities and populations in need of pathways to nursing education. Her research continues to focus on student success, programmatic excellence, Competency Based Education (CBE), and simulation. She has presented research related to NCLEX, CBE, and Diversity in BSN prelicensure programs at the NLN Education Summit, AACN Transform, and the National Nursing Workforce Conference respectively in recent years.

    45 min
  • Episode 307: The Importance of Price Transparency in Healthcare

    On today’s episode, Ashley sits down with with Keith Somers.  CRO at HealthCorum.  Keith is an entrepreneur with a finance background who co-founded HealthCorum after a series of frustrating experiences navigating the healthcare system as a patient and caregiver. As CRO at HealthCorum, he leads the sales/marketing team on all market interactions while maintaining responsibility for company operations.

    HealthCorum is a company that provides data analytics and insights focused on the healthcare industry. They specialize in analyzing data on healthcare providers, such as hospitals and physicians, to assess their quality, efficiency, and overall value in comparison to other similar providers. HealthCorum’s platform and underlying data helps healthcare organizations, insurers, and employers identify high-performing providers, reduce costs, and improve the quality of care.

    35 min
  • Episode 306: Accelerating Health Equity in the Rio Grande Valley

    Today Ashley sat down and talked with Dr. Edwin Estavez.  Edwin is the founder of the Altacair Foundation.   He Previously, served as Market President of Value Based Care at Prominence Health, a leading health care company that provides high quality, cost-effective care to diverse populations. Edwin, has over 30 years of experience in health care and higher education administration, risk management, and business development, with a PhD in Administration and an MSW. He is passionate about organizational transformation. From health care delivery and outcomes through value-based care tactics, to patient engagement programs, and care coordination models.  Join as we chat about the mission of Altacair, how he ensures the foundation stays true to its mission and vision, and the collaboration between Altacair and The Leavitt School of Health on the Accelerator Conference.

    Altacair Foundation:  About Us – Altacair Foundation

    Accelerator 2024:  https://www.eventbrite.com/e/accelerator2024-advancing-value-for-health-equity-tickets-951490021267?aff=oddtdtcreator

    31 min
  • Ep. 204: Mark Young, CEO of MyCHN

    On today’s episode of Race to Value, Ashley sits down with Mark Young, CEO of MyCHN to discuss how MyCHN launched a partnership with Wysa, an AI-driven mental health platform. We discuss how this collaboration aims to bolster the well-being and mental health of MyCHN’s Crisis and Behavioral Health patients by providing them access to Wysa’s innovative AI personal mental health companion at no cost.

    Mark Young has worked in health services since 1989 and in community health since 1998. He has a Master’s in Business Administration from Trident University and a Master’s in Organization Management from the University of Phoenix. Over his career of 30-plus years, Mr. Young has worked with initiatives in the Rio Grande Valley, northeast Texas, and south Texas. Projects he has developed include outreach and engagement with colonia residents, residential treatment services for pregnant women and children, a tuberculosis intervention program, multiple chemical and alcohol dependency programs, behavioral health programs, and many outreach, education, and intervention projects.

    Timestamps:

    3:00: Discussion on how MyCHN created this partnership with WYSA and the benefits it has brought to their patients.
    6:00: How this tool is used to help patients
    7:30: Tools and Resources that WYSA offers
    11:30: Breaking the Stigma around using AI in Healthcare
    16:00: Discussion on the current state of Behavioral Health
    19:00: Discussion on younger populations and if they are more likely to opt into utilizing AI for healthcare

    26 min
  • Ep. 203: The Nursing Workforce in a Post Covid Landscape

    In today’s episode we chat with Geoffrey Roche, MPA. Geoffrey is the son of a nurse, future of work and education expert, diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging advocate, champion for transforming health equity, and the host of the Ed Up Health Up podcast. His professional career includes over nine years in hospital administration as a strategic advisor to the President and CEO and department director of various departments, including Business Development and Planning, Government Affairs, Community Health, and Public Relations, for Lehigh Valley Hospital-Pocono. At Lebanon Valley College and Harrisburg University of Science and Technology he held senior leadership roles focused on strategic partnerships, organizational strategy, and business development. As Senior Vice President, Business & Workforce Development at Dignity Health Global Education, he led a diverse team focused on developing institutional relationships with leading health systems while simultaneously championing national conversations and initiatives to develop innovative diversity, equity, and inclusion solutions for the healthcare workforce.

    “We expected to see a drop in enrollment before the pandemic for all healthcare programs. Why did Healthcare and Education not come together to combat this?” – Geoffrey Roche

    “We have made bad decisions as a society when taking care of our healthcare workforce.” – Geoffrey Roche“We have five generations of people in the workforce, and this is the first time we have had this.” – Geoffrey Roche“As Leaders we need to harness the creativity and passion for all generations in the workforce.” – Geoffrey Roche

    2:25: What is happening in the nursing workforce?

    4:30: The Supply and Demand Gap Challenge and addressing culture in healthcare organizations.
    5:30: The Gig Economy is now in healthcare, and we have to get used to this model.

    8:00: Millennials in the workforce and creating a culture that allows people to be the best they can be by creating a community and culture that allows them to thrive. This means they must be valued and heard.

    14:00: What do we need to do as healthcare leaders to invest in our people?
    17:30: Why you need to listen to your workforce, instead of just hiring consultants.
    20:30: If we do not have a healthcare workforce, it will impact education, clinical placements and preceptorships.
    22:50: Apprenticeships, why they are important and why healthcare has been slow to implement them
    29:27: We need to do more work in the K-12 Landscape to promote and encourage people to go into healthcare careers. It is important to learn that there are jobs in healthcare that aren’t being a doctor or a nurse.

    35 min
  • Ep. 202 – Upcoming Changes to the Institute for Advancing Health Value

    Welcome back to Race to Value! In this episode we introduce our new host, Ashley Schwartz and discuss the rebranding of the Institute for Advancing Health Value and how we are expanding our work.

    Today’s guest is Dr. Keith Smith (M.A., Ed.D., MBA, L.M., RMHC (ret.)) serves as the Executive Dean and Senior Vice President for Michael O. Leavitt School of Health at Western Governors University. He has strategic leadership experience in the business, nonprofit, and higher education sectors. His 26-year career in higher education comprises holding faculty, dean, vice-provost, vice-president, and now senior vice-president positions, at five universities prior to coming to WGU, inclusive of leading schools of health, business and IT, and arts and sciences. He has taught courses and given presentations domestically and internationally on leadership and organizational change, higher education innovation, and personal growth and development. Smith has supervised educational programs in Europe, the Middle East, and Asia. He has played a lead role in both regional and programmatic accreditations. His teams have developed a wide spread of programs from the microcredential through doctoral levels, as well as partnerships with business, government, military, and community colleges across the nation.

    0:19: Introduction to Keith Smith, SVP of WGU’s Leavitt School of Health.

    1:42:  Upcoming changes you can expect to see with the Institute for Advancing Health Value and it’s rebrand.

    2:52:  Expansion in content- we will be continuing our work in Value Based Care, but are expanding into workforce, health equity, diversity and inclusion and workforce development.

    4:50:  Health Equity Convening in the Rio Grande Valley of Texas.   This is a new area of work that we are continuing to expand and explore in different areas of the United States

    8:00:   Discussion of the Programs that the Leavitt School of Health currently offers.

    11:40: Discussion of WGU’s strategic pillars and how they will benefit the general public and the current workforce.

    “We want to set a greater tone out in the Healthcare Industry, in terms of thought leaderships and opportunities to partner with those in different systems, and opportunities to be a resource center for them.”  – Dr. Keith Smith

    “Educational Equity feeds into Health Equity.  By providing education to everyone, it opens the door for health equity and having trained, qualified and a culturally competent workforce that mirrors the diverse population that they are caring for.” – Ashley Schwartz

    19 min
  • Ep 201 – Value-Based Change Management: Navigating the Human Side of Healthcare Economics, with Philip Eaves, MBA

    In this episode of the Race to Value podcast, we are sharing inspiration for a more optimistic future in the value transformation of our country. This week’s interview brings a message of hope, compassion, and human connection balanced with the business success of value-based care within a national leading health system.

    Albert Einstein once said that “Only a life lived for others is a life worthwhile” and no one better captures that spirit of servant leadership than our guest this week. Philip Eaves is the President and CEO of Ascension Seton ACO | Ascension Seton Health Alliance and the Vice President of Population Health at Ascension Texas, and he is a leader in the value movement that you should know about. In this interview we focus on change management, leadership, and the human side of healthcare economics. Overseeing the value-based care strategy and operations for one of the largest clinically integrated networks in Texas, Philip is leading the ACO to outstanding success…and transforming the lives of people along the way.

    Bookmarks:

    01:30    The human side of healthcare economics – compassion is the currency; empathy is the language.

    02:00    Introduction to Philip Eaves, President and CEO, Ascension Seton ACO and VP of Population Health, Ascension Texas

    02:30    Ascension Seton ACO is the largest clinically integrated network in Texas with 3,600 providers with 300K value-based lives.

    04:45    “Only a life lived for others is a life worthwhile” — Albert Einstein

    05:30    Philip shares how a humble, faith-based upbringing fueled his ambition, work ethic, and compassion as a healthcare leader.

    07:30    “Healthcare is about serving others.”

    08:30    Occupational medicine as a stepping stone to value-based care.

    09:45    Team-based care that enables providers so they can build meaningful patient relationships.

    11:00    $24M in MSSP Shared Savings for 23,000 Medicare beneficiaries to achieve a top 7% performance ranking of all ACOs in the country (#32 out of #482).

    12:45    Valuable partnerships with independent practices (e.g. Austin Regional Clinic, Capital Medical Clinic).

    13:00    “Physician engagement is the overall key to ACO success.”

    14:00    The impact of Annual Wellness Visits (AWVs) in practice transformation.

    15:00    HCC recapture for documentation accuracy as an area of educational focus.

    15:45    Centralized versus Embedded Care Management.

    16:30    Analytical insights to drive high risk CM interventions.

    17:15    Quality campaigns to close care gaps and improve population health outcomes.

    18:00    Refining a Post-Acute Care network for optimal transitional care.

    18:30    An after hours program as an effective ED diversion strategy.

    20:00    Change management to improve team culture and reinvent the business model for VBC.

    22:00    Phillip shares his experience leading an inflection point for the ACO business.

    23:30    Applying the principles of the Kübler Ross Change Curve in organizational change.

    24:30    Inspiration from John Kotter (“Leading Change”) – Leadership versus Management.

    25:00    Recognizing the need for change in shifting a new strategic direction.

    26:00    Communicating the vision and creating short-term wins.

    26:45    New initiatives: a new ACO for early adopters, Medicare Advantage risk, and Direct-to-Employer partnerships.

    28:00    Financial toxicity as a driver of Direct Contracting between employers and providers in value-based care.

    30:00    Employer frustration with rising medical spend and the lack of solutions from their brokers.

    30:45    Designing an ACO value proposition based on employer pain points.

    31:00    Leveraging network adequacy and CIN care infrastructure for commercially insured populations.

    32:45    PBM transparency to reduce extreme spending on pharmacy drugs.

    34:00    Forging a new partnership with Signify/CVS to support practice transformation.

    37:00    Accessing capital within a landscape where there is mass provider consolidation.

    39:00    Financial distress in both the hospital and independent PCP sectors.

    40:30    Determining cultural fit with potential partners to support capital needs.

    43:00    Understanding the business model and risk track record of potential partners.

    44:00    More information on the Signify/CVS partnership with Ascension Seton.

    45:45    “Change is the law of life and those who look only to the past or present are certain to miss the future.” – John F. Kennedy

    46:45    Parting thoughts on effective change management strategy and why we need to prioritize people in VBC business decisions.

    48:45    Hope for the future. 

    49:00    “The patient-provider-care team relationship is where the life change really occurs.”

    53 min
  • Ep 200 – Belief in the Possible: Navigating the Successful Transition from Volume to Value, with Melanie Matthews
    The transformation of healthcare is a seemingly insurmountable challenge, yet overcoming any obstacle in the journey begins with the belief that it is possible to win!  It’s not about the magnitude of the task; it is about the collective will to prioritize the wellbeing of every person we serve in our population.  Perhaps when approached with the audacity to imagine a healthier and more equitable future for all, we’ll actually get there.  And that is just what the Physicians of Southwest Washington (PSW) is realizing as they navigate a successful transition from volume to value.
    Our guest on the Race to Value this week is Melanie Matthews, the dynamic, creative, and innovative CEO of PSW. She leads a population health company that has been around for three decades. Melanie is not only leading their ACO and managing their progression in the adoption of full-risk Medicare Advantage delegation; she has become a nationally recognized voice for value-based health policy.  In listening to this interview, you will hear from a leader that has a real personal capacity for leadership and a clear focus on excellence. If you want to hear from someone that is at the absolute forefront of risk-based contracting and innovation, who understands the issues at a granular level, this episode with Melanie is a must-listen!
    Episode Bookmarks:
    01:30 Introduction to Melanie Matthews and the Physicians of Southwest Washington (PSW)
    04:30 PSW has evolved over the last three decades from an IPA to a diverse business that includes a national leading ACO and risk-bearing entity for MA.
    06:00 “PSW is a story of independent physicians who, in a time of market consolidation, want to remain independent and focus on the patient relationship.”
    06:45 Achieving success in delegated risk and taking accountability for both quality and total cost of care.
    07:00 The impact of MACRA on the long-term value-based care strategy of PSW.
    08:30 Building an infrastructure and developing capabilities to move a value-based agenda.
    09:00 Developing a business model for agility in responding to new rules (“a kayak in a sea of cruise ships”) and engaging all types of physicians in the landscape.
    09:30 “The value-based movement is important as the fee-for-service chassis is not realistic, has poor quality and outcomes, and rising costs.”
    10:00 Taking risk with physician partners and providing them with MSO services, leveraging a technical infrastructure and population health platform.
    10:45 The glacial pace of scaling payment model transformation at CMS and CMMI’s bold goal for 2030.
    12:00 The increasing shift to home-based care delivery and the use of generative AI in reshaping care delivery.
    13:00 How the flawed economic design of the fee-for-service system creates industry inertia.
    14:00 Diverting to the known (i.e. fee-for-service care delivery) in times of stress is an unsustainable path forward.
    15:00 Convincing the Board room on the tenets of VBC when it hasn’t historically delivered on its promises.
    16:00 Trends in consumer cost-shifting and the challenges of private insurers cross-subsidizing provider losses from public payers.
    16:30 Unsustainable economics in employer-based healthcare and the looming insolvency of Medicare.
    17:00 What does the CMMI 2030 Goal mean for future of the value movement?
    18:30 An overview of the extensive services offered by PSW that empowers success in VBC.
    19:30 The explosive growth of strategic transactions of physician groups and how mass consolidation is impacting the landscape.
    21:00 Aligned incentives and access to a population health platform as keys to VBC success.
    22:00 PE investment impacts on competition in an independent physician ecosystem.
    23:00 Generational differences in the approach to the business of practicing medicine.
    23:30 “Organizations that are convened with independent physicians are able to show better costs of care.” (vs. employed or vertically integrated systems)
    24:45 Capital investment and consolidation as a forcing function for physicians to embrace total cost of care models.
    26:00 The explosive growth trajectory of Medicare Advantage and how PSW is capitalizing on innovation in full-risk MA delegation.
    28:30 Keys to Success in Full-Risk MA:  1) Incentive Alignment, 2) Empowering Data and Actionable Insights, 3) Standardized Workflows
    29:00 Developing a common set of quality and utilization goals across all payer contracts.
    30:00 Clinical connectivity, workflow optimization, and a data infrastructure for high- and rising-risk patient segmentation.
    30:30 Working with the array of incentive options in MA – from P4P, hybrid capitation, to full capitation options.
    31:00 How full capitation allows for an immediate recognition of the high utilizers in need of intervention.
    31:30 Prospective payment as a revenue stabilizer for independent practices.
    33:00 Using outcomes, quality, and clinical coordination data to align incentives in a physician network.
    33:45 PSW has a risk portfolio that covers 350,000 lives, of which 80,000 are Medicare beneficiaries in MSSP and ACO REACH programs.
    35:00 MSSP is vehicle for building risk maturity, while CMMI programs (e.g. ACO REACH) present the best opportunity for care delivery innovation.
    37:00 Consumer-centric innovation and benefit design flexibility in MA as a source of influencing CMMI payment model design.
    38:30 “ACO REACH is the first model that really contemplates the economic considerations of managing populations in underserved areas.”
    40:00 Strengths of ACO REACH (e.g. health equity benchmarking, care delivery innovation, incentives for SDOH interventions).
    40:30 What can CMMI do to improve the benchmarking methodology used in ACO REACH?
    42:00 Testing capitation and assessing health equity opportunities in ACO REACH.
    43:30 Executing on a playbook for Population Health improvement.
    45:00 Building a culture of team-based care in value transformation.
    47:00 Engaging patients through motivational interviewing.
    47:45 Ensuring access, capturing quality, and providing preventative screenings as the ABCs of comprehensive primary care.
    48:15 Developing shadow bundles within a total cost of care arrangement to align incentives with specialists.
    50:30 Melanie’s describes her experience as a leading advocate and health policy expert.
    51:30 The need for a unified voice to define what value-based care really is.
    52:00 A patient example of how social isolation caused extreme overutilization of the ED.
    53:45 “I feel like it’s important to shout from the rooftops on the importance of value-based care…”
    55:00 The Value in Healthcare Act as a policy striving to preserve Advanced APMs in the value movement.
    57:45 Parting thoughts from Melanie on the future of accountable care.
    1 hr 3 min
  • Ep 199 – Translating Truth: Overcoming Misunderstanding to Champion Accountable Care, with Mara McDermott
    We have a broken healthcare system. Too often, individuals today experience care that is fragmented, duplicative, wasteful, and confusing.  Through value-based care, we can improve the health care experience by coordinating care, creating care teams that communicate with one another, and supporting individuals in their care journey with services that address their medical and non-medical needs.
    Accountable for Health is a nonpartisan national advocacy and policy analysis organization accelerating the adoption of effective accountable care. Their members are advocating for value-based care on Capitol Hill so policymakers can understand how best to move American healthcare towards a model that achieves better outcomes, improved care experiences, increased access, and lower costs. Joining us on the podcast this week is Mara McDermott, the Chief Executive Officer for Accountable for Health.  She is an accomplished healthcare executive with deep expertise in federal healthcare law and policy, including delivery system reform, physician payment and payment models.
    Take this opportunity to learn from a leading expert on accountable care as she translates the truth in building a bridge towards a more broad-based understanding of health value.  And make sure to tune in to Mara’s special announcement about Health Care Value Week at the end of the interview so you don’t miss out on important educational events occurring January 29th thru February 2nd.
    Episode Bookmarks:
    01:30  The need for accountable care policies that create better health outcomes and patient experiences.
    02:00  Introduction to Accountable for Health (A4H) and its Founder/CEO Mara McDermott, JD, MPH
    03:00  Interview topics discussed (e.g. the meaning of VBC, MSSP vs. MA, MACRA 2.0, advanced APMs, integrated specialty care, Medicaid transformation, and the upcoming Health Care Value Week event).
    06:00  How A4H is translating thought leadership to action in the advocacy arena.
    06:30  Accountable care as the solution to fragmented, uncoordinated care.
    07:00  Political turnover in D.C. has made VBC a “new” health policy solution.
    07:30  Educating the Hill comes down to conveying enthusiasm for health care transformation.
    08:00  Accountable for Health Members are shaping the national conversation for payment and delivery system reform.
    09:00  The health policy controversy of the Global and Professional Direct Contracting model (the precursor to ACO REACH).
    11:30  If Direct Contracting was the natural evolution of a series of advanced ACO options, why was there such strong criticism?
    12:00  The need to overcome misunderstandings about what ACOs are trying to achieve.
    13:00  Providing education to dispel the myth that ACOs can actually limit services.
    14:00  How uninformed policy decisions could potentially create a catastrophic blow to the value movement.
    14:45  “Accountable care is integral to care delivery system reform.”
    15:45  Confusion with the term “value-based care” and why it will fail unless people understand the truest aims of the movement.
    17:00  The need for effective storytelling to advance care delivery transformation.
    18:00  Prioritizing care experience over cost reforms (delivery innovation will address costs!)
    20:00  The topline takeaways from CMS model evaluations and whether or not programs should be expanded.
    21:00  What do most people think when they hear the word “value”? (the need to reframe the conversation with more precise language)
    22:00  The MSSP and the Medicare Advantage programs as two distinct approaches to healthcare delivery and reimbursement.
    24:00  Mara provides a brief comparison between MSSP and MA (e.g. beneficiary assignment, risk adjustment, benchmarking).
    25:30  How strong relationships between MA plans and provider networks (underpinned by capitation) drive value.
    26:30  Understanding provider compensation in MA value-based payment and the synergies between managing MSSP and MA populations.
    27:00  Rethinking supplemental benefits in Traditional Medicare.
    28:00  An overview of the Medicare Access and CHIP Reauthorization Act (MACRA).
    30:30  The “cliff effect” of the Advanced APM Bonus reductions (and why that threatens the value movement).
    31:30  “We need strong incentives to continue this work in accountable care transformation.  The Advanced APM Bonus has built important momentum.”
    32:30  The MIPS program maximum bonus is at 9% — in what world would the Advance APM incentive make sense at only 0.5%?
    33:00  Why are providers in the last year earning full bonuses in MIPS when 2-3% has been the historical average?
    33:30  An overview of The Value in Health Care Act of 2023 and consideration of a full-risk ACO option in the MSSP.
    35:45  The need for a long-term vision for MACRA (i.e. MACRA 2.0).
    38:45  The integration of specialists in accountable care models.
    39:30  Leveraging the physician fee schedule as a glide path for specialist adoption.  Providing data to ACOs to better engage specialists.
    41:00  The responsibility of the Physician-Focused Payment Model Technical Advisory Committee (PTAC) to advance specialty-specific APMs.
    41:45  The move to mandatory payment models to catalyze healthcare cost savings goals for CMMI.
    45:00  How are Medicare-value based efforts aligning with Medicaid transformation?
    47:00  Health Care Value Week is a week of action from January 29th to February 2nd, providing broad-based education on VBC.
    48:30  The Virtual Value-Based Payment Summit is open to everyone (free registration) and the speaker lineup is incredible!
    49:30  A4H’s Health Care Value Week Conference in D.C.on Feb. 1st to celebrate the progress of VBC in improving people’s lives!
    51:00 Learn more about A4H and sign up for their newsletter at accountableforhealth.org.
    53 min

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