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I sat down with my friend Duffy to record a story— one of his personal stories— for the GY6 project. There’s a section in the workshop where we walk about Moral injury and the multi-faceted ways in which it can “happen” to any of us…

(For clarity, I think Moral Injury is a much bigger issue than PTSD, AND I think a lot of people confuse it with PTSD since we don’t talk a lot about it— see the links below for more clarification.)

Here’s what happened…

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I asked Duffy about a shooting he was involved in (as an officer who fired his weapon)…

… that was the story he shared in the previous episode, where he thought he was responding to a flipped car on the wrong side of the highway…

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Amidst that story— which we originally met to record, he told me about the incident that opened the entire podcast episode, the time when they arrested a drug dealer and the neighborhood who was reeling from the effects of those drugs bowed up and stood against the officers— 100 civilians threatening 5 officers.

Of course, we got into the story about the internal affairs investigation, the homicide inquiry (all standard procedure with officer involved shootings)…

… losing his gun and badge for a week…

… and his ex-wife cheating and leaving him, taking the kids out of state…

… and the threat of Jesse Jackson coming to town to protest against him and the other officers…

And then he starts talking about trauma related to the coast guard.

A helicopter going down…

After a fellow coastie drowning during a training incident.

And that lead to a discussion on an officer he knew— Justin Billa— who was killed while responding to a domestic just two days after they worked together…

And that lead to a story about Sean Tuder, who was also killed in the line of duty…

… both of these being men Duffy knew and worked with.

All of that…

… from talking about one story.



We didn’t go fishing for any of this. It just came up.

It was AFTER the fact, after he told me these stories, that I went back, found the videos online, and began stitching them together in the narrative form you now hear.

But it was all there.

He pulled one thread… and things just flowed.

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Why do I tell you that?

Because that’s what trauma is often like.

You start dealing with it, and you suddenly realize, “I’ve got more there, more to deal with.”

And, that’s good.

It would be LESS normal to NOT be impacted by these things that it is to be impacted.

In the same way you can’t walk outside in the rain without an umbrella and not get wet, you can’t walk through life— especially in some of these professions— and not take multiple hits to the spirit, the soul, and sometimes even the body…

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As my friend Beau might say— I interviewed him back in episodes 44-46, “You’re not broken. You’ve just been through a lot. And, as a result, you adapted.”

Of course he would say it more articulately than that, but you get the idea…

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Links you need to know about =

🚔 🚒 🪖After Action Project = https://www.afteractionproject.org/

😳 It is PTSD or Moral Injury, episode 41 = https://www.jenkins.tv/podcasts/podcast-version-2-0/episodes/2149187869 

📓 Soul & Spirit Health + Healing = www.GY6.online/SSHH 

🎙️ GY6 events = www.GY6.online/events 

📳 The “best of” Soul Wholeness audio = www.Jenkins.tv/best  (free audio course)

🔗 One-to-one personal coaching = https://www.jenkins.tv/PC 

Every time a “marking event” occurs, your subconscious memory—

🗄️ Stores it

⭕️ Stamps it— with all the accompanying sites, sounds, smells, tastes, and textures.

This is how God designed us, and it works well for our survival AND our thriving in numerous ways.

But, when trauma gets involved (note: we weren’t created for trauma), some of this goes wonky…

… and, we read the present in light of the past in hurtful / harmful ways rather than helpful / healthy ways.

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Suggested next steps

The Field Guide / GY6 book = www.GY6.online/FG 

Soul & Spirit Health + Healing = www.GY6.online/SSHH 

GY6 workshop / upcoming events = www.GY6.online/events 

The “best of” Soul Wholeness audio = www.Jenkins.tv/best  (free audio course)

One-to-one personal coaching = https://www.jenkins.tv/PC 

Past episodes, related to this one

#16, “Soul Whole” = https://www.jenkins.tv/podcasts/podcast-version-2-0/episodes/2149103023 

#4, “Belief-Expectation Flywheel” = https://www.jenkins.tv/podcasts/podcast-version-2-0/episodes/2149076797 

In the final of three talks, Beau Armistead and I discuss “church people” and trauma.

The church should be the safest place for hurting people to go. Many times, it’s not…

… and that’s not necessarily because “church people” are bad. Rather, it’s because we don’t train people in the church to address soul health— any more than we train them to deal with physical health.

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We are all spirit, soul, and body…

… and each part, though connected and interrelated, matters.

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To achieve total wholeness, we need training on addressing all three parts.

That is— back to where this thing began two episodes ago— we need info that is:

🙏 Scripturally solid

🧬 Scientifically accurate

🧐 Simple to understand & apply

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Links referenced

See the GY6 resources, referenced here: www.GY6.online/FG 

Upcoming GY6 workshops = www.GY6.online/events 

The “Best of” Soul Wholeness, free audio = www.Jenkins.tv/best 

Access the Soul Wholeness video course = www.Jenkins.tv/SWV 

Coaching

One-to-one personal coaching = https://www.jenkins.tv/PC 

Links to Sojourn Counseling

⭐️ https://www.sojourncounseling.org 

⭐️ https://atease.org 

Beau Armistead, the founder and Executive Director of Sojourn Counseling, gave me a quick whirlwind / 30,000 foot overview of three awesomely odd (but helpful) healing modalities.

We talk about—

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1️⃣ EMDR / Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing

— super-effective therapy that alleviates (and even eliminates) traumatic distress by using bilateral stimulation…

… and mimics what your brain does while you’re in REM / Rapid Eye Movement sleep.

2️⃣ Brain Spotting—

— a deep dive (i.e., if EMDR is snorkeling, this is scuba diving) into specific areas of distress, based on WHAT & WHERE hurtful / harmful memories are stored…

… sometimes, it creates a “spot” on the brain. If we can find that PLACE, we can heal the “stuff” that’s there.

3️⃣ Micro-current Neuro Feedback (MCN)

— a means of rebalancing the brain through small electrical currents (i.e., think: whereas drugs / pharmaceuticals provide chemical relief, most of the issues in the brain are electrical… so, often, what we do is the equivalent of calling in a plumber when we really need an electrician.

Turns out, your brain is neuroplastic. It can be rewired.

And, in the same way it can be rewired based on hurts, it can also be rewired based on healing…

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For clarity…

… I’m not trained or licensed in ANY of those. I’m a teacher, a communicator…

Beau is the pro in counseling / therapeutic arena.

So, I learned into his wisdom / experience to relay what we could acquire and pass on.

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Links referenced

See the GY6 resources, referenced here: www.GY6.online/FG 

Upcoming GY6 workshops = www.GY6.online/events 

The “Best of” Soul Wholeness, free audio = www.Jenkins.tv/best 

Access the Soul Wholeness video course = www.Jenkins.tv/SWV 

Coaching

One-to-one personal coaching = https://www.jenkins.tv/PC 

Links to Sojourn Counseling

⭐️ https://www.sojourncounseling.org 

⭐️ https://atease.org 

My friend Beau went to college and studied psychology, and a few jobs and other pursuits… and then, through some of his experiences (shared in this podcast) went back to study trauma and get the credentials to help others at the highest level possible.

Why?

Because a lot the people we encounter carry hurts we never see.

And, we always live in the present based on our experiences of the past…

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I sought his wisdom because my goal is to bring together info that is:

🙏 Scripturally solid

🧬 Scientifically accurate

🧐 Simple to understand & apply

All three of those lanes matter.

If it’s not Scripturally solid, it has no foundation.

If it lacks scientific accuracy, it’s stale and irrelevant.

If it’s not easy to access and apply… it loses its purpose.

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So, in light of those three…

… and in light of wanting to help others find soul and spirit healing…

… I talked to a counselor.

In this episode (and the two that follow) I relay some of what he shared.

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Links referenced

See the GY6 resources, referenced here: www.GY6.online/FG 

Upcoming GY6 workshops = www.GY6.online/events 

The “Best of” Soul Wholeness, free audio = www.Jenkins.tv/best 

Access the Soul Wholeness video course = www.Jenkins.tv/SWV 

Coaching

One-to-one personal coaching = https://www.jenkins.tv/PC 

Links to Sojourn Counseling

⭐️ https://www.sojourncounseling.org 

⭐️ https://atease.org 

Continuing the previous conversation (about SOZO) we outline TWO MORE things Jesus provides…

🧩 A new pattern

⚙️ A new purpose

Both are linked to SOZO, to total salvation and redemption…

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So what do they mean together?

Quite simply this…

… we’ve been pulled OUT of the old pattern and placed into a new pursuit of purpose.

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And, we don’t merely look to the “proof” of God’s blessings in tangible ways (only) we seek His presence…

… knowing that the blessings come…

… and come not only for the benefit of ourselves BUT ALSO for the benefit of others.

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Suggested next steps

Access the Purpose book (eBook + audiobook) = https://www.jenkins.tv/purpose 

The Kingdom 101, book = https://amzn.to/4cnJfdJ 

One-to-one personal coaching = https://www.jenkins.tv/PC 

Past episodes, related to this one

🍀Sozo (previous episode) = https://www.jenkins.tv/podcasts/podcast-version-2-0/episodes/2149196508 

💥 Jesus = better at salvation than you are at sin, episode 31 = https://www.jenkins.tv/podcasts/podcast-version-2-0/episodes/2149134008 

When the New Testament speaks of being “saved,” it refers to far more than how we usually define the issue. Whereas we generally denote “saved” as the forgiveness of sins, the New Testament authors ( in fact, it’s “red letter,” so it’s taught be Jesus Himself), use the word SOZO, which means—

🙏 forgiveness

🛟 physical projection

⛓️‍💥 freedom from demonic oppression

❤️‍🩹 physical healing

🪦 raising the dead

— and more.

Or, to say it another way, SOZO denotes the total coming of the complete Kingdom of God.

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In this episode we talk about the pivotal role John the Baptist played (the last and greatest of the old covenant prophets), comparing his position with what Jesus proposed to be available now…

… and we walk though several stories from the book of Luke where Jesus not only DISCUSSES the message of the Kingdom but also DEMONSTRATES its manifestations.

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Links referenced

Video | Ten ways Moral Injury occurs = www.GY6.online/blog/ten 

Access the free Grace Basics audio = https://www.jenkins.tv/grace 

The Healing Workshop, on-demand course = www.Jenkins.tv/THW 

The Kingdom 101, book = https://amzn.to/4cnJfdJ 

One-to-one personal coaching = https://www.jenkins.tv/PC 

Past episodes, related to this one

💥 You might not need a miracle, episode 6 = https://www.jenkins.tv/podcasts/podcast-version-2-0/episodes/2149079766 

❤️‍🩹 Two kinds of healing, episode 36 = https://www.jenkins.tv/podcasts/podcast-version-2-0/episodes/2149187864 

Other mentions

Rob’s book, The Long Way = www.RiseUpOnline.info/TLW 

Michael Belton asked me to talk about Moral Injury… a “lesser known” (but probably “more lethal”) invisible wound than PTSD.

So, we compare and contrast PTSD with Moral Injury to set the stage.

Here’s the core of it

Moral Injury feels different, because Moral Injury starts differently than PTSD. Whereas PTSD is a response to external “triggers” (you can remove yourself from the situation or avoid certain scenarios) Moral Injury goes with you. Moral Injury IS you.

You’ve probably heard the saying "Wherever you go, there you are.” When the issue is “in you” (i.e., your conscience, your spirit), you can’t fight it or run from it.

Key differences

Note the key distinctions between the PTSD and Moral Injury:

💥PTSD

🫣 Moral Injury

Again, Moral Injury is not PTSD, and PTSD is not Moral Injury.

Why it matters

You must heal the KIND of hurt you have.

If you don’t identify the kind of hurt you have and also implement the correct healing protocols for that specific wound, then—

For clarity, even though every “part” of you impacts the others (interdependent realization), hurts generally occur in the ways listed above. If multiple types of hurts are present, we must address each of them in their own way.

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Links referenced

See the GY6 resources, referenced here: www.GY6.online/FG

Upcoming GY6 workshops = www.GY6.online/events

Differences between PTSD and Moral Injury 

Ten ways Moral Injury happens = https://www.gy6.online/blog/ten 

PTSD or Moral Injury = https://www.gy6.online/blog/MI 

Serve Ministries

Website = https://serveministriesinc.com 

Become a certified chaplain = https://serveministriesinc.com/courses 

Podcast / YouTube feed for Serve = https://youtu.be/HbVk4sQ608g?si=2z1hcqe-GXj55fkv 

Other, related

Access the Soul Wholeness video course = www.Jenkins.tv/SWV 

Grab the digital bundle (eBook + audiobook) = www.Jenkins.tv/SW 

Coaching

One-to-one personal coaching = https://www.jenkins.tv/PC 

We’re often (understandably) anxious about revealing our “true selves” to the people around us. When we do, though, the promises of 1 John 1:7-9 manifest (connection and cleansing).

Notice—

But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

It’s hard to walk in the light, though.

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Jim and Sarah recently shared their story of “walking in the light” with Beth and me while we were visiting them.

They saw the truth of walking into the light firsthand. They experienced it.

Whereas we fear people will consider us weak…

… they consider us even stronger.

Whereas we think they will push us away…

… they come closer & we experience true connection + cleansing.

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Let’s define waking in the light, though…

… because our culture has a tendency to over-share on social media ALONG WITH an epidemic of loneliness (no one close to us to share with).

“Walking into the light" doesn’t mean you broadcast your hurts to everyone, everywhere. Rather, it entails entrusting your story to those who “have your six.”

Think of it as concentric circles…

✅ A few people get to share all of your story, your struggles, your hurts, and more. They are your safe place. This should include your spouse / significant other and some close friends.

🟠 Some people get to hear “most” of your story.

🤷‍♂️ Many people get to hear “some” of your story.

❌ Most people get none of it.

See the differences?

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When done in the right way, our stories of struggle + search + solution… they lead to freedom for us AND healing for others, as well.

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Links referenced

See the GY6 resources, referenced here: www.GY6.online/FG 

Upcoming GY6 workshops = www.GY6.online/events 

Other, related

Access the Soul Wholeness video course = www.Jenkins.tv/SWV 

Grab the digital bundle (eBook + audiobook) = www.Jenkins.tv/SW 

Coaching

One-to-one personal coaching = https://www.jenkins.tv/PC 

Our friends Jim & Sarah have an interesting approach to date night: Make love first.

Here are a few reasons why:

It removes the build-up and the pressure.

You’re energetic and excited.

And it sets the tone for the rest of the night.

Plus, you can always “go back for more” if you want.

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Sarah is a licensed counselor and Jim leads a men’s ministry…

AND, they lead married couples groups, workshops, and more TOGETHER.

In fact, long-term, they’re created a retreat center where couples can reconnect and reignite something special (or, nurture what’s already thriving).

Maybe- just maybe— they’re onto something.

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Links referenced

See the GY6 resources, referenced here: www.GY6.online/FG 

Upcoming GY6 workshops = www.GY6.online/events 

Books Beth & Sarah mentioned

The Great Sex Rescue = https://amzn.to/48g5kIt 

31 Days to Great Sex = https://amzn.to/41MNER0 

The “Stronger” resource

Free access to the Stronger audiobook = 10 lessons, https://www.jenkins.tv/lead 

Purchase the book or eBook = https://www.jenkins.tv/stronger 

Coaching

One-to-one personal coaching = https://www.jenkins.tv/PC