Marc Maron says goodbye to WTF after 16 years. Is it burnout, or just a new chapter? Either way, it’s worth discussing. We’ve also got chart updates, can’t-miss events, job leads in the podcasting industry, and a look at AI reviving voices such as Orson Welles. Big changes are happening. You don’t want to miss the inside scoop on these stories!

Episode Highlights: 

[2:31] Podcast Data and Rankings

[5:49] YouTube Charts and Updates

[8:38] Upcoming Events and Opportunities

[12:56] AI and Ethical Storytelling

[28:03] RSS Feeds and Video Content

[30:52] Kids' Summer Listening Challenge

[32:26] People's Choice Podcast Awards

[33:35] Podcasting Seriously Awards Fund

[34:58] Marc Maron’s Podcast Farewell

[44:17] Podcast Launch Trends and Buzz Sprout Stats

Links & Resources: 

The Podcasting Morning Chat: 

www.podpage.com/pmc

Join The Empowered Podcasting Facebook Group:

www.facebook.com/groups/empoweredpodcasting⁠

Empowered Podcasting Conference 2: 

https://www.empoweredpodcasting.com

Apply to Speak at Empowered Podcasting Conference 2: 

www.empoweredpodcasting.com/speakers

Podcasting Morning Chat on YouTube: 

https://www.youtube.com/@marcronick

PodNews:

www.podnews.net

Buzz Sprout Stats: 

https://www.buzzsprout.com/stats?date=2025-05-01

Podglomerate: 

https://podglomerate.com

How to Get Your Podcast Reviewed By The Media:

https://podnews.net/event/how-to-get-your-podcast-reviewed-by-the-media

Hacks & Hobbies with Junaid Ahmed: 

https://bit.ly/43JvfoL

Adding Video Content to RSS Feeds: 

http://Podcaststandard.org

Summer Listening Challenge for Students: 

http://jonincharacter.com/summer-listening

People’s Choice Awards:

www.Podcastawards.com 

Podcasting Seriously Award Fund:

http://podcastingseriously.com/fund

Pop Culture Brain: 

https://www.popculturebrain.com

Marc Maron’s Top 5 Interviews From The Guardian: 

https://bit.ly/3HrCKtd

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What are your summer plans? Maybe you’re packing up the car for a family road trip, or whisking your partner away on a romantic getaway to an exotic destination. It all sounds amazing…but what about your podcast?

Summer is a season when routines are often put on hold, but should your podcast take a break too? Today, we open up the mailbag to answer a listener’s question about summer podcasting: Should you pause, switch things up, or find new ways to stay connected with your audience? Pull up a chair with us and explore creative strategies to keep your show thriving all summer long!

Episode Highlights: 

[02:14] Empowered Podcasting T-Shirts

[06:20] Improv Class Insights

[11:23] Amanda's TikTok Success Story

[22:54] Mailbag: Summer Podcast Plans

[25:36] New Approach to Podcast Breaks

[26:29] Celebrating Milestones and Reflecting

[28:21] Dynamic Ads and Podcast Intros

[33:08] Listener Preferences on Podcast Breaks

[41:52] Podcast Shoutouts and Collaborations

Links & Resources: 

The Podcasting Morning Chat: 

www.podpage.com/pmc

Join The Empowered Podcasting Facebook Group:

www.facebook.com/groups/empoweredpodcasting⁠

Empowered Podcasting Conference 2: 

https://www.empoweredpodcasting.com

Apply to Speak at Empowered Podcasting Conference 2: 

www.empoweredpodcasting.com/speakers

Podcasting Morning Chat on Youtube: 

https://www.youtube.com/@marcronick

Ask Me About My Podcast T-Shirts:

https://ironickpodcasting.myshopify.com/products/ask-me-about-my-podcast-speech-bubble

Amanda’s Viral Video about Mr. Spinale: 

https://www.tiktok.com/@amandaannsharp/video/7509918260905872686

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What’s the one thing you’ve always wanted to try on your podcast, but never dared to do? Today, we dusted off the mailbag and found some inspiration in a question from a fellow podcaster: “What’s one thing every podcaster should try at least once?” This got us thinking about all the ways we can break out of our routines and breathe new life into our shows. Today we share the experiments and challenges that have made the biggest difference for us. For some, it’s trying a new storytelling style, or getting out from behind the desk to record in the real world, or even letting someone else take the reins and interview you for a change. We discussed going live, the lessons you learn from editing your own episodes, and the value of connecting with your audience in new ways.

Episode Highlights: 

[2:16] Improve Classes & Updates

[7:59] Mailbag Question: Breaking Podcasting Routines

[10:48] Narrative Style Podcasting Discussion

[22:14] Live Podcasting and Editing Tips

[26:53] Listener Reviews and Feedback

[28:04] Understanding Audience Size

[30:56] Round Table Discussions

[38:20] Video in Podcasting

[48:24] Summer Podcast Plans

​​Links & Resources: 

The Podcasting Morning Chat: 

www.podpage.com/pmc

Join The Empowered Podcasting Facebook Group:

www.facebook.com/groups/empoweredpodcasting⁠

Empowered Podcasting Conference 2: 

https://www.empoweredpodcasting.com

Apply to Speak at Empowered Podcasting Conference 2: 

www.empoweredpodcasting.com/speakers

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Have you ever listened to a podcast that really inspired you and stayed with you so much that you just had to share it with someone? That's exactly what we're getting into today as we reveal the "new to us" podcasts that have captured our attention. We break down what makes these shows so impressive and discuss what keeps us coming back for more. Since it’s Friday, we’re wrapping up the week with a rapid-fire round of wins, celebrating our accomplishments and cheering each other on. Tune in for inspiration, recommendations, and a dose of positivity to close out your week. And don’t forget to join us next week for more conversations on how you can take your podcast to the next level!

Episode Highlights: 

[02:09] Sharing Podcast Recommendations

[03:27] Unexpected Podcast Discoveries

[17:31] Incorporating AI in Podcasting

[23:46] Discussing a Challenging Episode on Sexual Assault

[24:49] AI in Production and Post-Production

[25:16] Seth Meyers Podcast and The Last of Us HBO Series

[30:28] Introducing 'Go and Find Out' by Johnny Wright

[37:34] Copyright Issues with Music in Podcasts

[43:02] Celebrating Weekly Wins

​​Links & Resources: 

The Podcasting Morning Chat: 

www.podpage.com/pmc

Join The Empowered Podcasting Facebook Group:

www.facebook.com/groups/empoweredpodcasting⁠

Empowered Podcasting Conference 2: 

https://www.empoweredpodcasting.com

Apply to Speak at Empowered Podcasting Conference 2: 

www.empoweredpodcasting.com/speakers

Mental Health Rewritten: 

https://www.mentalhealthrewrittenpodcast.com/

Life After Corporate: 

https://lifeaftercorporate.com/podcast/

Real Estate Investing with Coach Carson: 

https://www.coachcarson.com/coach-carson-podcast/

Finding Mastery: 

https://findingmastery.com/podcast-start/

Serial: 

https://open.spotify.com/show/5wMPFS9B5V7gg6hZ3UZ7hf

How Leaders Lead: 

https://bit.ly/4kApXmk

History of Standup: 

https://open.spotify.com/show/59ODNiEdu7LNd3F7N8rpOh

The Lonely Island: 

https://bit.ly/43tbWQs

HBO's The Last Of Us: 

https://open.spotify.com/show/63sqfQdGgHdkBlR7bxLeBk

Go and Find Out: 

https://www.amazon.com/Go-and-Find-Out/dp/B0F4DX3RBV

Lickd:

https://lickd.co/

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Did you know female podcast listeners remember ads better than any other media platform? Today, we dig into why podcast ads, especially those integrated naturally, stick with both men and women more than TV, YouTube, or social media. That surprising stat came from Sounds Profitable, and it sparked a deeper conversation about trust, routine, and connection in audio storytelling. We also cover Apple Podcasts’ big debut at The Podcast Show in London, where they revealed it was their most successful year yet. Additionally, we discuss new features from Spotify and the increasing importance of transcripts, not just for legal accessibility, but also for genuine listener value. Whether you're curious about industry shifts, the impact of video podcasting, or how listener habits are changing, this episode brings a roundup of what's shaping the future of the medium. Tune in for insights, industry updates, and more.

Episode Highlights: 

[02:00] Personal Experiences with Podcast Ads

[14:23] Clubhouse Premium Features

[20:05] Discussion on Pocket Casts and Recommendations

[21:41] SiriusXM and Podcast Transcription Legal Issues

[22:38] Importance of Transcripts for Accessibility

[24:34] Transcription Tools and Practices

[35:12] Open Video Podcasting and RSS Specification

[36:49] Encouragement for New Podcasters

​Links & Resources: 

The Podcasting Morning Chat: 

www.podpage.com/pmc

Join The Empowered Podcasting Facebook Group:

www.facebook.com/groups/empoweredpodcasting⁠

Podnews:

www.Podnews.net

Empowered Podcasting Conference 2: 

https://www.empoweredpodcasting.com

Apple’s Resources for Podcasters: 

https://podcasters.apple.com/support/?type=News

The Podcast Show: 

https://www.thepodcastshowlondon.com/

Sirius Agrees to Mediate in Transcription Suite: 

https://bit.ly/3Z7lGP9

Video Podcasts Distributed via RSS:

https://bit.ly/4dG8Tcr

The Podcasting Advertising Anomaly: New Research on Attention and Gender

https://soundsprofitable.com/article/podcast-advertising-anomaly/

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Cosmo says your zodiac sign has a perfect podcast match, and we couldn’t resist putting it to the test. Today’s episode kicks off with a fun horoscope-inspired segment before digging into fresh industry headlines. Apple just teamed up with Canva to launch free, customizable templates for podcasters, making it easier to create sharp promo graphics. We also cover Anthropic’s new Claude 4 upgrades and Google’s Veo-3 Gemini integration, which allows creators to direct AI-generated video frame by frame. We also discuss how major events like VidCon and Podcast Movement compare, and why some podcasters are choosing to attend smaller and more intimate conferences in comparison to events with thousands of participants. This episode keeps you current and shows you new tools to boost creativity and workflow. Don’t miss this one, listen all the way to the end.

Episode Highlights: 

[03:59] Pat Flynn’s Feedback on Social Media Strategies

[08:27] Podcast Recommendations by Zodiac Sign

[18:17] Podcast Charts and Trends

[26:28] Mainstream Media vs. Independent Creators

[27:17] The Ambiguity of Content Creation

[31:52] AI Innovations in Content Creation

[42:58] Upcoming Events for Content Creators

[45:58] Apple's New Resources for Podcasters

[48:40] The Podcast Show in London

[50:11] Empowered Podcasting Conference 2

​​Links & Resources: 

The Podcasting Morning Chat: 

www.podpage.com/pmc

Join The Empowered Podcasting Facebook Group:

www.facebook.com/groups/empoweredpodcasting⁠

The Perfect Podcast to Listen to Based on Your Zodiac Sign

https://bit.ly/4mBTPk7

Podnews:

www.Podnews.net

Introducing Claude 4: 

https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-4

Empowered Podcasting Conference 2: 

https://www.empoweredpodcasting.com/

Vidcon: 

https://vidcon.com

Virtual Social Media Strategies Summit: 

https://www.socialmediastrategiessummit.com/

Podcast Movement: 

https://podcastmovement.com/

Apple’s Resources for Podcasters: 

https://podcasters.apple.com/support/?type=News

The Podcast Show: 

https://www.thepodcastshowlondon.com/

Create With Veo 3: 

https://labs.google/fx/tools/flow

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Podcast charts might not mean what you think they do! Today, we break down how rankings work on various platforms. Five-star reviews might not matter as much as you’ve heard. You may be asking yourself What does matter? Today, in our conversation, we cover aspects such as completion rates and actual listening time. Remember, charts aren’t everything. We also explore what real podcast growth looks like outside the rankings. That means listener loyalty, consistent engagement, and showing up for the right people, not just more people. If you’ve been feeling pressure to go viral or beat the algorithm, this episode offers a fresh perspective on growth and some realistic approaches worth trying.

Episode Highlights: 

[02:41] Dealing with Haters

[07:49] Podcast Discoverability

[09:36] Strategies for Growing Your Audience

[15:39] Challenges and Solutions in Discoverability

[21:55] Importance of Ratings and Reviews

[28:28] Marketing and SEO Insights

[28:50] Finding and Ranking Podcasts

[30:12] Impact Over Virality

[31:59] Measuring Podcast Success

[36:01] SEO and Social Proof

[49:24] Platform-Specific Ranking Algorithms

​​Links & Resources: 

The Podcasting Morning Chat: 

www.podpage.com/pmc

Join The Empowered Podcasting Facebook Group:

www.facebook.com/groups/empoweredpodcasting⁠

MowPod Rankings: 

https://mowpod.com/

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(Please forgive the first 8-10 minutes. We had to use part of our backup recording today)

On today's show, we're diving into another round of your mailbag questions and since it's Friday, celebrating wins from the week! From practical tips on transitioning away from defunct podcasting softwarre to exploring powerful AI tools to streamline your production workflow, this episode has something valuable for every podcaster. We share insights on why investing in the right tools can significantly boost your podcast’s quality and efficiency. Plus, discover creative ways to celebrate major milestones like your 100th episode, engage your audience, and amplify your podcasting journey.

We wrap up the episode with inspiring wins from our community members…from personal and professional triumphs to exciting podcast developments and meaningful audience connections.

Episode Highlights:

[06:17] Tools for Recording and Streamlining Podcast Workflow

[17:40] AI Tools to Boost Your Podcast Creativity and Productivity

[22:28] Creative Ideas for Celebrating Your Podcast’s Milestones

[33:01] How to Make Your 100th Episode Special and Memorable

[41:24] Community Wins: Celebrating Listener Successes

Links & Resources:

The Podcasting Morning Chat: www.podpage.com/pmc

Join The Empowered Podcasting Facebook Group: www.facebook.com/groups/empoweredpodcasting

Riverside: https://www.riverside.fm/?via=0676da

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Today, we're diving deep into our mailbag to answer your pressing podcasting questions. Whether you're wrestling with co-host dynamics, considering when it's time to pull the plug, or navigating how far ahead to schedule guest interviews, we’ve got you covered. We share candid insights about balancing workload, setting clear expectations, and discovering if your podcast truly resonates with your intended audience.

Plus, we explore innovative solutions for podcasters who find themselves with an abundance of great content. Is there such a thing as being too far ahead? And how can you best manage your backlog without overwhelming yourself or your listeners?

Episode Highlights:
[06:13] Managing Co-host Expectations and Workload
[08:34] Finding Your Podcast Audience & Purpose
[22:28] Is Being Too Far Ahead in Scheduling a Problem?
[28:29] Solutions for Managing Podcast Backlogs
[35:15] Effective Strategies for Utilizing Banked Content
[40:33] Clarifying Your Podcast’s Audience & Branding
[51:27] Monetization Strategies: Charging Guests and Sponsorships

Links & Resources:

The Podcasting Morning Chat:
www.podpage.com/pmc

Join The Empowered Podcasting Facebook Group:
www.facebook.com/groups/empoweredpodcasting

PMC Episode 256: Why and How This Host Charges Guests to Be on Her Show (Victoria Meyer):

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Today we're diving into the latest podcasting headlines... from groundbreaking AI tools to updated Spotify analytics and exciting global awards. Fresh off celebrating my stepdaughter’s graduation, I’m back with the crew, and we're sharing insights and laughter about vacations, overpreparing for episodes, and trusting the podcasting process. Plus, we've got essential updates on Google's AI enhancements, including stunning text-to-video capabilities, and why keyboards might soon be obsolete. Join us as we unpack how creators are integrating AI into their workflows and what that means for the future of podcasting.

Episode Highlights:

[01:59] Celebrating Graduations and Vacations
[04:13] Lessons Learned While Hosting Solo
[06:13] The Problem with Overpreparing
[08:05] Top Podcasts: Apple, Spotify, and YouTube
[13:22] Podcasting Events and Award Announcements
[17:45] Google's Big AI Announcements & Gemini's Future
[23:38] Revolutionary Text-to-Video AI Tools
[28:04] Pricing Controversies for Premium AI Models
[34:26] Key Updates from the Social Media world
[37:26] Headliner's New 'TLDL' Feature for Podcast Summaries
[46:07] International Podcast Awards & Recognitions
[48:27] Spotify’s New Analytics and Public Milestone Updates
[54:45] Surprising Insights from WonderCraft’s 2025 AI Report

Links & Resources:

The Podcasting Morning Chat:
www.podpage.com/pmc

Join The Empowered Podcasting Facebook Group:
www.facebook.com/groups/empoweredpodcasting

Empowered Podcasting Conference Speaker Application:
https://empoweredpodcasting.com/speakers

WonderCraft's 2025 AI Report from PodNews:
https://podnews.net/press-release/wondercraft-ai-report

Headliner's New TL;DL Tool: https://play.headliner.app/tldl

Protect your Podcast with Easy, Affordable Legal Strategies!: TODAY, May 21 · Hosted by our friend, Gordon Firemark Virtual  ·  https://www.gordonfiremark.com/FundamentalsWebinar-ad1

Happening at the Podcast Show in London TODAY: Free Podcaster Happy Hour: London: May 21 · Hosted by Riverside at the Angelic, across the street from the Podcast Show · https://lu.ma/re83gzlr

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