Podcasting Morning Show | Podcast Growth, Launch and Strategy for Indie Podcasters

Do you assign numbers to your podcast episodes? Why or why not? Today we’re answering mailbag questions that go deeper than they seem. We unpack why some podcasters swear by numbering and others skip it entirely. Then, we share our deciding factors for using custom artwork in each episode and how that choice can affect branding and discoverability. We wrap up with a conversation that always gets people fired up… what matters more: great content or clean audio? These behind-the-scenes choices can shape how listeners experience your show from the very first glance, so we’re here to help you show up with clear intentions!

Episode Highlights: 

[02:08] Discussion on CMT and Volunteering

[06:31] Podcast Awards and Nominations

[09:56] Mailbag: Tips for New Podcasters

[12:21] Episode Numbering Debate

[20:17] How Episode Titles Impact Discoverability

[32:01] Episode Specific Artwork

[38:57] Newbie Nuggets: Podcasting Tips

[46:46] Content vs. Audio Quality

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www.empoweredpodcasting.com

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What if your podcast could reach listeners in their native language with your own voice? With Marc traveling today, co-host Sid Meadows takes the lead as we unpack YouTube’s new AI dubbing tool and what it could mean for creators. Nick explains how it works, and the rest of us weigh the pros and cons, asking the big question: Will any of us actually use it? We then explore Riverside’s move into podcast hosting and whether an all-in-one platform is truly beneficial for podcasters. As always, we end the week by sharing wins and lifting up the community.

Episode Highlights: 

[01:49] Where's Marc?

[03:29] YouTube's New Dubbing Feature

[13:52] Riverside's New Hosting Capabilities

[18:52] Monopolies in Media Platforms

[25:37] Exploring New Short-Form Podcast Ideas

[27:51] Digital Sales vs. Digital Marketing

[35:03] Community-Based Podcasting

[42:27] Sharing Wins

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Get Your Tickets for The Empowered Podcasting Conference:

www.empoweredpodcasting.com

Momentum & Flow: 

https://podcast.app/momentum-flow-p7043162

Story Lab Podcast: 

https://thestorylabpodcast.buzzsprout.com/

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If you’re new to podcasting, you might be thinking…How do I get people to actually engage with my show? Today, we answer a listener’s question about audience interaction and explore creative ways to bring your listeners into the conversation. We cover free tools like SpeakPipe, which lets listeners leave voice messages you can feature in future episodes, and introduce RodeCaster’s new “Call Me” feature that opens the door to real-time connection regardless if you go live or not. You’ll also hear why the timing of your call to action makes a significant difference and how setting a positive tone at the beginning definitely leads to a more impactful episode for your community.

Episode Highlights: 

[03:27] Mailbag Introduction and Tone Setting Tips

[06:33] Podcast Movement and Networking

[09:11] Engaging Listeners and Call to Actions

[13:29] Interactive Podcasting Tools and Techniques

[16:35] Highlighting Listener Engagement

[30:04] Incentivizing Listener Participation

[32:54] The Call Me Feature

[34:13] Balancing Live Calls and Content Control

[45:24] Alternative Solutions for Live Call-Ins

[49:47] Vote for PMC for The People’s Choice Award

Links & Resources: 

Join The Empowered Podcasting Facebook Group:

www.facebook.com/groups/empoweredpodcasting⁠

Get Your Tickets for The Empowered Podcasting Conference:

www.empoweredpodcasting.com

Vote For Podcasting Morning Chat for People’s Choice Award: 

www.podcastawards.com

Speak Pipe:

https://www.speakpipe.com

Call In Studio: 

https://www.callinstudio.com

Rodecaster Pro 2: 

https://amzn.to/41h9yuN

Rodecaster “Call Me” Feature: 

https://rode.com/en/user-guides/rodecaster-pro-ii/rode-callme

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Did you know Baby Boomers are tuning in more than ever, and new Edison data shows a 19% jump in weekly podcast listening among adults 55 and up? It's news day, and this is one of the stories we are digging into. We also give you the scoop on YouTube’s profanity rule change, RSS.com’s monetization update for small shows, and Netflix’s move into video podcasts. We reveal Time Magazine’s podcast list and why it left off some of the biggest names. Later, we explore new research on reading books vs listening to audio and what it means for how people absorb content.

Episode Highlights:

[02:26] Hiccup Remedies 

[07:56] Podcast Rankings and Statistics

[14:26] Upcoming Events and Conferences

[17:05] YouTube's New Profanity Rules

[21:06] Netflix's Video Podcast Ambitions

[23:14] Monetization for Small Podcasters

[28:42] ChatGPT Agent: New Features and User Experiences

[35:29] Social Media Updates for Podcasters

[41:02] Boomers Embrace Podcasting

[44:41] Controversy Over Time's Top 100 Podcasts List

[51:26] Reading vs. Listening: Neuroscience Insights

[54:29] Joe Budden's Podcast Empire

Links & Resources: 

Join The Empowered Podcasting Facebook Group:

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www.empoweredpodcasting.com

Vote For Podcasting Morning Chat for People’s Choice Award: 

www.podcastawards.com

Podnews: 

www.Podnews.net

Austin, Texas Meetup for Business Owners Who Podcast: 

⁠https://podnews.net/event/austin-tx-meetup-for-business-owners-who-podcast⁠

YouTube Profanity Policy Updates: 

https://bit.ly/40L0Ndw

Netflix Hunts Executive Video Producer:

https://bit.ly/4lWbwdF

RSS.com Launches PAID:

https://podnews.net/update/rss-paid-monetisation

Netflix Breaks Into Top 3 Media Distributors:

https://bit.ly/45dasuC

Do You Really Need To Read To Learn?:

https://bit.ly/4oeFPha

Joe Budden Podcast Empire: 

https://bit.ly/4l3IXJM

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What tools are you using to get the job done in your podcasting workflows? Today, we answer a listener’s question about the best tools for recording podcasts and producing both long and short-form video clips. We share our honest opinions on tools we use, ones we regret buying, and offer practical tips and workarounds to improve your process. If you’re looking for ideas to add or possibly avoid in your podcast toolbox, you’ll find plenty of real-world recommendations, and we hope our insights will help you make informed choices for your podcasting setup.

Episode Highlights: 

[02:24] Community Updates

[08:27] Tool Regrets and Experiences

[19:45] Mailbag Question: Podcasting Tools

[29:15] Using Canva for Short Form Content

[31:44] Captioning with Wave Video

[32:27] Exploring Da Vinci Resolve Studio

[33:54] Riverside for Streamlined Processes

[35:51] Recording Tools for Podcasts

[51:26] Zoom for Podcast Recording

Links & Resources: 

Join The Empowered Podcasting Facebook Group:

www.facebook.com/groups/empoweredpodcasting⁠

Get Your Tickets for The Empowered Podcasting Conference:

www.empoweredpodcasting.com

Vote For Podcasting Morning Chat for People’s Choice Award: 

www.podcastawards.com

Rodecaster Pro 2: 

https://amzn.to/41h9yuN

Minvo: 

https://studio.momento.fm/?via=1021c8

Riverside: 

https://www.riverside.fm/?via=0676da

Descript: 

https://web.descript.com

OBS: 

https://obsproject.com

Resound: 

https://www.resound.fm

Scarlett 2i2: 

https://us.focusrite.com/products/scarlett-2i2

Ecamm: 

https://www.ecamm.com

Canva: 

www.canva.com 

App Sumo: 

https://appsumo.com/?clickId=xW40Hq3eUxycUg1xI20Ay2iPUkp07q2fIzurwE0&gad_source=1

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Earlier this week, we swapped stories about “guests from hell,” so today we’re flipping the script. What makes someone the ideal podcast guest? We break down the traits that set great guests apart, like being prepared, respecting the host’s time, promoting the episode, and knowing how to tell compelling stories. We also talk about why podcast interviews aren’t always just casual chats. Even the most relaxed shows still need to keep the listener front and center. Later in the episode, we shift gears to reflect on our weekly wins, and we take time to celebrate our personal and community progress.

Episode Highlights:

[02:51] Reflecting on Yesterday's Discussion

[07:53] Update on the Dopey Podcast Ban

[10:41] Podcast Awards Nomination

[13:58] What Makes a Great Podcast Guest?

[19:47] Managing Podcast Guest Contributions

[20:14] Promoting Podcast Episodes Effectively

[25:58] Identifying Great Podcast Guests

[30:29] Sharing Weekly Wins and Achievements

Links & Resources: 

The Podcasting Morning Chat: 

www.podpage.com/pmc

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Get Your Tickets for The Empowered Podcasting Conference:

www.empoweredpodcasting.com

Vote For Podcasting Morning Chat for People’s Choice Award: 

www.podcastawards.com

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What would you do if your podcast’s Instagram account were banned for no good reason? That’s what happened to the host of Dopey, a podcast about addiction and recovery. Today, we discuss what led to the ban, how he’s responding, and what creators can do when platforms get it wrong. Later, community member Paula shares the emotional toll and what it feels like to be recognized for your work but still feel like a fraud. We explore imposter syndrome, accepting success, and figuring out what paths actually feel right. If you’ve ever felt pulled between outside pressure and your own direction, this conversation will hit home.

Episode Highlights: 

[04:01] The Instagram Ban Incident

[08:58] Strategies to Recover Social Media Accounts

[14:42] Preventative Measures for Social Media Issues

[25:24] Dealing with Imposter Syndrome

[28:34] Advice on Managing Opportunities

[34:47] The Importance of Mindset

[38:01] Respecting Personal Boundaries

[46:44] Owning Success, and Saying No

Links & Resources: 

The Podcasting Morning Chat: 

www.podpage.com/pmc

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www.facebook.com/groups/empoweredpodcasting⁠

Get Your Tickets for The Empowered Podcasting Conference:

www.empoweredpodcasting.com

Vote For Podcasting Morning Chat for People’s Choice Award: 

www.podcastawards.com

Dopey Podcast: 

https://dopeypodcast.com

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Is listening to podcasts at double speed harming your cognitive function? A new study says it might be. Today, one of our news stories highlights recent research on cognitive overload and its implications for the way we consume content. We also take a moment to honor the life and legacy of Malcolm-Jamal Warner, who recently passed away in a tragic accident. His final podcast episodes and a heartfelt video message remind us of the power of showing up for others. Later in the show, we explore how Substack is positioning itself as more than just a platform for writers, following a $100 million funding boost that’s fueling new podcast features. We also spotlight a Shark Tank-style pitch idea for indie podcasters, talk about the latest events and award wins, and share updates on podcast charts and social media tools. The podcast industry is buzzing, and we’re here to keep you well informed.

Episode Highlights: 

[02:43] Podcast Data and Statistics

[04:29] Top Podcasts and Charts

[09:48] Upcoming Podcast Events

[17:10] Remembering Malcolm-Jamal Warner 

[31:48] Substack's Big Move into Podcasting

[37:58] Speed Listening: Pros and Cons

[48:42] Shark Tank for Podcasts

[53:12] Instagram Trial Reels

Links & Resources: 

The Podcasting Morning Chat: 

www.podpage.com/pmc

Join The Empowered Podcasting Facebook Group:

www.facebook.com/groups/empoweredpodcasting⁠

Get Your Tickets for The Empowered Podcasting Conference:

www.empoweredpodcasting.com

Vote For Podcasting Morning Chat for People’s Choice Award: 

www.podcastawards.com

Podcast Movement: 

https://2025.podcastmovement.com

Radio Days Asia: 

https://radiodaysasia.com

Media Starter Networking Call: 

https://blissedoutbusiness.thrivecart.com/media-firestarter-networking-call

Podcast index:

https://podcastindex.org

Substack Secures $100 Million Investment: 

https://bit.ly/3H2d46z

The Effect of Lecture Speed on Immediate and Delayed Comprehension: 

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/acp.3899’

Instagram Trial Reels: 

https://creators.instagram.com/blog/instagram-trial-reels?locale=en_US

Not All Hood: 

www.NotAllHood.com

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You're at the start of recording a podcast episode. You ask your guest a question, and they go on a 10-minute tangent; you can't get a word in! What do you do? Today's question is inspired by our virtual mailbag, and we’re giving our takes on how to manage conversations with guests and also know when to make edits to clean up the message for our audience. We cover how to redirect a rambling guest and what we've done in our personal experience when this happens. We also touch on the crutch words we sometimes lean on and even call each other out in a friendly way. Listen in for tips on reducing your crutch words and how you can communicate in a more impactful and concise way.

Episode Highlights: 

[02:32] Verbal Crutches: What Are They?

[04:50] Personal Experiences with Verbal Crutches

[07:00] Strategies to Overcome Verbal Crutches

[15:54] The Importance of Editing and Awareness

[21:19] Listener Interaction and Microphone Talk

[23:56] Dealing with Difficult Podcast Guests

[24:30] Handling Rambling Guests

[25:03] Techniques to Regain Control

[26:09] Interrupting with Tact

[34:26] Pre-Interview Strategies

[37:47] Knowing When to Reset The Conversation 

[50:16] Preparing Rescue Questions

[50:44] Double Editing and Salvaging Content

Links & Resources: 

The Podcasting Morning Chat: 

www.podpage.com/pmc

Join The Empowered Podcasting Facebook Group:

www.facebook.com/groups/empoweredpodcasting⁠

Get Your Tickets for The Empowered Podcasting Conference:

www.empoweredpodcasting.com

Vote For Podcasting Morning Chat for People’s Choice Award: 

www.podcastawards.com

Join Us On Chatter: 

https://preview.chattersocial.io/group/98a69881-f328-4eae-bf3c-9b0bb741481d

Remember to rate, follow, share, and review our podcast. Your support helps us grow and bring valuable content to our community.

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What if you could build deeper connections with your audience by starting a real two-way conversation? Today, we explore how to move past downloads and begin creating a real community around your podcast. We discuss using Clubhouse, Facebook groups, Discord, YouTube Community, Substack, and others to create spaces where listeners can connect with you and with each other. We also give you an overview of ChatGPT’s new AI agents and how podcasters might use them to handle online tasks and free up time. Since it’s Friday, we close the week by sharing wins and celebrating each other’s achievements.

Episode Highlights: 

[03:43] Podcasting on Multiple Platforms

[06:13] Exploring AI Agents

[15:36] Engaging with Your Audience

[30:39] Exploring YouTube Community Features

[31:49] Discord: A Platform for Gamers and Podcasters

[33:00] Building Communities on Various Platforms

[38:41] Exploring Other Community Platforms

[45:29] Wins from the Week

Links & Resources: 

The Podcasting Morning Chat: 

www.podpage.com/pmc

Join The Empowered Podcasting Facebook Group:

www.facebook.com/groups/empoweredpodcasting⁠

Get Your Tickets for The Empowered Podcasting Conference:

www.empoweredpodcasting.com

Vote For Podcasting Morning Chat for People’s Choice Award: 

www.podcastawards.com

Join us next week for the live simulcast on Chatter: 

https://preview.chattersocial.io/group/98a69881-f328-4eae-bf3c-9b0bb741481d

Reddit Question:

https://www.reddit.com/r/podcast/comments/1lxmlaz/feeling_like_im_totally_wasting_my_podcast_conten/

Build Your Own Community App:

https://passion.io

ChatGPT Agent: 

https://openai.com/index/introducing-chatgpt-agent
Remember to rate, follow, share, and review our podcast. Your support helps us grow and bring valuable content to our community.

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