Mike & Brent return with a point-counterpoint episode on U.S. export control policy. After discussing the latest news about U.S. AI export controls (01:03), they discuss the points and counterpoints related to whether we should have export controls at all (04:57), the relevance of the national security justifications offered by the U.S. Department of Commerce in promulgating its regulations (06:52), the lessons of Ukraine battlefield recoveries (09:59), the views of Anthropic’s CEO, Dario Amodei, on risk and how to push any industry to a more-compliance mindset (rather than acquiesce to the race to the bottom) (10:44), why Brent shouldn’t talk about the old days of corruption (12:08), and how not only the export controls’ design but also their enforcement by government and compliance efforts by industry are all relevant factors to consider in assessing export controls’ effectiveness (14:53). They conclude with the latest installment of Brent’s “Managing-Up” segment (23:04).

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