Andres starts off by asking if the addition of Derrick Henry is going to hurt Lamar Jackson in the MVP race. Then we touch on mental health in sports, player accountability, and the implications of roster decisions in the NBA, particularly regarding Bronny James. Also with Devante Adams allegedly on the trade market we discuss how NFL teams value draft picks while in season. Jeff finally arrives and the conversations turns to psychedelics, personal relationships, and predictions for the upcoming NBA season. Additionally, we discuss personal preferences in attraction, the etiquette of birthday greetings, the complexities of financial dynamics in relationships, and the contrasting ways men and women experience love and attraction. The conversation culminates in a debate about Kevin Durant's place in NBA history. In this conversation, the speakers delve into the criteria for evaluating NBA greatness, discussing players like Kawhi Leonard, Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, and Dirk Nowitzki. They explore the evolution of the game, the impact of team dynamics on player legacies, and the role of longevity and championships in ranking players.