Something special for paid subscribers: A rare glimpse behind the curtain as Van, Lyle, and guest Noah Hurowitz talk about life and politics prior to recording a forthcoming episode of the pod. The full episode that followed from this conversation won’t be out for a while (covering the award-winning mini-series Carlos, from 2010). But there was so much good convo apart from Carlos that we wanted to share this part as a standalone behind-the-scenes episode where we’re just shooting the s**t.

Their excessively candid discussion includes:

* How Noah got laid off when his workplace unionized;

* How he turned screwing off to Peru during Trump 1.0 into a career-making gig;

* Covering the trials of El Chapo for Rolling Stone;

* Who really benefited from the “War on Drugs”;

* How the left should view Mexico and its president, Claudia Sheinbaum.

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