Pops on Hops

Barry and Abigail and special guests Matty and Maddie Carlson discuss Manzanita by Shana Cleveland and sample La Playita and El Farito from The Tank Brewing Co. in Miami, Florida.

With this appearance, Matt, who literally just founded our five-timers’ club, is the inaugural member of our six-timers’ club. Barry called him the Larry "Bud" Melman of Pops on Hops.

This episode came out of Matt’s interview of Maddie on her favorite albums of 2023. He also interviewed fellow Substacker Kevin Alexander on the same topic.

Shana Cleveland is also in the surf rock band La Luz, who just released a new album! Watch Shana’s live performance in the KEXP studio.

Matt educated us on the Mellotron!

Abigail and Barry both entered Light on the Water into the Abigail Hummel School of Speaking Smartly About Music: Abigail with a comparison to Baby Genius by Eels, and Barry with a comparison to Rain by Hans Zimmer.

Abigail shouted out Hoplark, which brews nonalcoholic hop teas!

Maddie used Gold Tower to talk about her interest in tarot. Read more about the tower card!

Matt compared Ten Hour Drive Through West Coast Disaster to 9th & Hennepin by Tom Waits.

Though we didn’t discuss it in this recording, Matt is one of the most prolific men we know. He is a member of Harborcoat, The Stick Arounds, and The Pantones, in addition to touring as a solo act. In fact, Matty is probably coming to a city near you! Check out his tour dates! Abigail helped to host one of his house shows last summer, and it was an incredible evening. Matt also posts daily on his Substack, What Am I Making, which also has a podcast component that we have appeared on!

Up next… Drag by k.d. lang

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Barry and Abigail discuss Tigerlily by Natalie Merchant and sample Dead Parrot, Passion of the Heights, and Luminescence Hazy IPA from Florida Avenue Brewing Co. in Wesley Chapel, Florida.

Modelo is now the top-selling U.S. beer! Read more.

Barry has seen Natalie Merchant in concert twice, most recently in 2023. Check out the setlist from the 2023 show!

Abigail compared Wonder thematically to The Boy in the Bubble by Paul Simon. Barry was reminded of the story of The Elephant Man.

I May Know the Word was written for the film Philadelphia but did not make the soundtrack.

Cowboy Romance reminded Abigail of Price to Pay by Blues Traveler and Barry of The Fourth Drink Instinct by Cute Is What We Aim For.

Abigail described Jealousy as “You Oughta Know by Alanis Morissette without the problematic behavior.”

Up next… Manzanita by Shana Cleveland, featuring Matt and Maddie Carlson! Check out Matt’s podcast episode that inspired this choice.

Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe.

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Barry and Abigail discuss A Fever You Can’t Sweat Out by Panic! At the Disco and sample Studio 54 Blues Blueberry NEIPA, Disco Sally’s Cookies, and Night Fever Porter from Disco Witch Brewing in Yulee, Florida.

Barry heavily compared this album (for better or for worse) to The Same Old Blood Rush with a New Touch by Cute Is What We Aim For, which we discussed in Yeast is What They Brew With (Cute is What We Aim For and Yeasty Brews Artisanal Beers).

We contrasted the Disco Witch’s succinct beer descriptions with the lengthy ones of Burial and Petty Thieves.

Camisado is the name of a military technique: a surprise attack occurring at night, or at daybreak, when the enemy is supposed to be asleep. Read more!

Barry entered the final note of Intermission into the Abigail Hummel School of Speaking Smartly About Music with a comparison not to The Green Bee, nor to Flight of the Bumblebee, but to A Day In the Life by The Beatles.

Barry gave Abigail a quick lesson on the baroque period.

We learned all about Candi Syrup, Inc.!

Barry compared But It’s Better If You Do thematically to Risque by Cute Is What We Aim For.

Although our previous Beatles reference is not from The White Album, Abigail did organically bring up Savoy Truffle (it has been zero episodes since our last White Album reference!).

Barry compared There’s a Good Reason These Tables Are Numbered Honey, You Just Haven’t Thought of It Yet to this scene from Young Frankenstein. Also, The lacing of the smokes reminded Barry of the spiking of the eggnog (and the vocalization and the harmonies!) in Who Spiked the Eggnog? by Straight No Chaser.

Barry’s second entry into the Abigail Hummel School of Speaking Smartly About Music was to compare Build God, Then We’ll Talk to My Favorite Things from The Sound of Music.

Up next… Tigerlily by Natalie Merchant

Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe.

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Barry, Abigail, and special guest Lory Willard (who previously joined us for POH [Rainbow Kitten Surprise and Appalachian Beer Tour]) sample Moscow mule cocktails made with Original, Hibiscus Lavender, and Cranberry Herb from Ginger’s Revenge in Asheville, North Carolina.

We have previously sampled several Ginger’s Revenge offerings in their pure forms on FrancePants (MuteMath and Ginger's Revenge), POH (Rainbow Kitten Surprise and Appalachian Beer Tour), and Malty Little Beers (Alanis Morissette and Leftover Beers).

Barry picked up his habit of eating an apple “from top to bottom” from the semi-autobiographical novel Cheaper by the Dozen by Frank Bunker Gilbreth Jr. and Ernestine Gilbreth Carey.

We took an opportunity to plug Dry Wrought Cider in Gainesville, Florida!

We also plugged the NC Pickle Festival in Mount Olive, North Carolina.

Lory is a fan of U Talkin’ U2 To Me?, the show that inspired us to start a podcast! We dove into an episode of “I Love Films” to discuss Lory’s dad appearing as an extra in The Lesser Evil, an early film in the Adam Scott canon. Watch Mr. Willard’s scene in the film!

Lory plugged Botanist and Barrel Cidery and Winery in Cedar Grove, North Carolina, which brews their ciders with foraged fruits.

Up next… A Fever You Can’t Sweat Out by Panic! At the Disco

Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe.

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In this BFE (beer-free episode), Barry, Abigail, and special guest Ian Rees (previously interviewed on Bonus: Friendship Induced Pod) discuss Ian’s Virtual Jukebox submission, Diorama by Silverchair.

Barry continually references Silverchair’s debut album Frogstomp (not also known as Frogstamp).

Abigail and Barry both compared the oeuvre of this album to that of Astoria by Marianas Trench, discussed on Cascadia (Marianas Trench and Cascade Brewing), and Electro-Shock Blues by Eels, discussed on Owlectro-Shock Brews [Eels and Dangerous Minds Brewing Co.).

Silverchair worked with composer Van Dyke Parks on this album. In a twist we could not have predicted, we discovered some relevant information about Parks after recording that did not come up in our conversation. Per Wikipedia, Parks wrote “‘City of Lights,’ ‘It's a “B” Movie,’ ‘Cutting Edge,’ and ‘Worthless,’ all of which were used in the film The Brave Little Toaster, directed by Jerry Rees.[citation needed].” Well, we’ll be the confirmatory citation - Jerry Rees is Ian’s dad! However, during the episode, we did discuss Parks’ work with The Beach Boys on their unfinished album Smile and his musically eclectic album Song Cycle.

Did you catch Barry’s weekly Coriolis force joke?

Barry compared the guitar sound in Angie by The Rolling Stones to that in World Upon Your Shoulders.

Abigail pointed out that had this not been a BFE, Green Bench would have been the perfect brewery to pair with Silverchair.

We discussed the trend of including a hidden track after a long silence on a CD (in reference to “Outro,” the hidden track after After All These Years). We referenced I Have Seen the Rain (feat. James T. Moore) by P!nk, Her Majesty by The Beatles, and Mercy, Sweet Moan by The Black Crowes as comparative examples. Reddit has also discussed this issue at length. Wikipedia maintains a list of albums containing a hidden track. After minimal research, we believe the mysterious album Ian referenced with multiple silent tracks was Sleepify by Vulfpeck.

We once again plugged Matty C’s multimedia project What Am I Making.

We closed by playing Ian’s new single, Say Goodbye. Watch the trippy music video! Say Goodbye is available for purchase on iTunes and Amazon.

Ian has an abundance of music available on Spotify and YouTube. We especially recommend Panic Induced Love (the album we reviewed on Bonus: Friendship Induced Pod), his Building A Song Series, and his Bo Burnham-inspired video “Why Do I Eat So Much Cheese?”.

Up next… A Fever You Can’t Sweat Out by Panic! At the Disco

Ian also randomly selected our next Jukebox episode, Professional Rapper by Lil Dicky, submitted by Dinos Korominas. This episode is scheduled to drop on July 12, 2024.

Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe.

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Barry and Abigail discuss Twilight Time by Bennie Wallace and sample Time Stands Still, Twinger, Mangoes At Work, and They Call Me Baltastic from Hiatus Brewing Company in Ocala, Florida.

Barry has a personal connection to Bennie Wallace through his friend “Uncle” Steve Moore, whose Oscar-nominated animated short “Redux Riding Hood” features a score written by Bennie. Watch "Redux Riding Hood" or read Uncle Steve’s blog post about its production!

Many thanks to Lucas Frank, owner and brewer of Hiatus Brewing Company, for sitting down with us to talk about the history and the branding of the brewery!

Barry shared his other Los Angeles jazz experiences at Chadney’s, across the street from the NBC Studios. One memorable performance was by trombone player Matt Finders, who was part of Tonight Show with Jay Leno Band led by Kevin Eubanks.

Check out Barry’s playlist of the songs that were covered by Bennie Wallace on this album!

Abigail could not help but hear Silver Bells in The Tennessee Waltz.

Abigail and Barry compared Willie Mae to Linus and Lucy by Vince Guaraldi Trio, from the soundtrack to “A Charlie Brown Christmas.”

Up next… Diorama by Silverchair, submitted to our Virtual Jukebox by Ian Rees

Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe.

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Barry, Abigail, and special guest Nick Martino discuss Nick’s work with New York Funk Exchange and sample Exclamative Sour Series - Peachicot KISS! KISS! and Atomic Duck from Able Baker Brewing in Las Vegas, Nevada.

We were delighted to share the stage in Henderson, Nevada, with live recordings of six other podcasts: What Am I Making, Matt and Mattingly’s Ice Cream Social, Making Podcasts Great Again (on which Abigail appeared briefly; full episode on Patreon), Parenting is a Joke (on which Barry and Abigail were interviewed together, but the live episode has not yet been released), New Music for Olds (typically a written medium), and The Muckrake Political Podcast (full episode on Patreon).

Nick Martino previously appeared on Bonus: A Christmas Day's Eve! Original Songs by Our Friends from 2022 with his jazzy version of “The Christmas Song” featuring his wife Connie on vocals and his daughter Daphne on tambourine.

Our guest bartender was Matt Carlson of the What Am I Making multimedia empire. With this appearance, Matt is now the first member of our five-timers club!

Other members of New York Funk Exchange we specifically called out were vocalist Serena Fortier and rapper Cidida (who only appears on the hidden reprise of Without You after The Bailout Pt. 3 on the digital version of the album).

Tremendous thank you to Pete Dominick of the Stand Up! with Pete Dominick podcast for organizing the event, for inviting us to record live, and ultimately for creating the community that has supported our podcast so much over the years. Thank you also to Cassie and Mike Rice of Gymcats for their on-the-ground work to make the event come together.

Up next… Twilight Time by Bennie Wallace

Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe.

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Barry and Abigail discuss Un-Led-Ed by Dread Zeppelin and sample Pink Crescendo, a lemonade cocktail made with Sunblush, and a hot mulled wine made with Southern Red from Lakeridge Winery & Vineyards in Clermont, Florida.

Listen to Barry’s playlist of all of the songs that were covered, mashed up, or referenced on this album.

Abigail compared the opening of Black Mountain Side to the opening of Piper by Phish.

Listen to What Am I Making Radio #014 - Cover Me, part of Matt Carlson’s What Am I Making project. Matty C is currently a member of the four-timers’ club with Pops on Hops!

Up next… On My Own Two Feet by Granian

Jingles (and the "Dorks on Corks" theme song) are by our friend Pete Coe.

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Barry and Abigail discuss Electro-Shock Blues by Eels and sample Water of Youth, Waldmeister, and Cherry Amaretto Sour from Dangerous Minds Brewing Company in Pompano Beach, Florida.

The first Eels song that Barry ever heard was Novocaine for the Soul.

Abigail shared a TikTok that she thought of when she heard 3 Speed.

Abigail entered Efils’ God into the Abigail Hummel School of Speaking Smartly About Music with a comparison to a meme song originally shared on R U Talkin’ R.E.M. RE: ME, How Does It Feel (When You're In REM (Good​)​) by Trouble’s Afoot. Check out all mentions of the bit on RUTREMRM!

Up next… On My Own Two Feet by Granian

Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe.

Visit Anosmia Awareness for more information on Barry’s condition.

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