Pops on Hops

Pops on Hops

By Barry Hummel and Abigail HummelMusicMusic Commentary
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Pops on Hops episodes

  • POH (Rainbow Kitten Surprise and Appalachian Beers)

    Barry, Abigail, and special guest Lory Willard discuss RKS by Rainbow Kitten Surprise and sample Lime Agave from Ginger’s Revenge in Asheville, North Carolina; Cheerwine Ale from NoDa Brewing Company in Charlotte, North Carolina; Blue Ridge Haze from Boojum Brewing Co. in Waynesville, North Carolina; and Dreamhuntress from Burial Beer Co. in Asheville, North Carolina.

    Shout out to the staff at Tobacco Road Burley & Brew for suggesting several of the beers we sampled today, and many others still sitting in our fridges!

    Ginger’s Revenge created a character for each of their four core beers. Meet the members of the band and check out each of their customized Spotify playlists!

    The band Rainbow Kitten Surprise is from Boone, home of Booneshine Brewing Company! You can hear our review of several Booneshine beers on Bellyshine (Jellyfish and Booneshine Brewing Co.).

    Meet the members of Rainbow Kitten Surprise!

    As a comparison to Cold Love, Barry played a sample of Homeless by Paul Simon and Ladysmith Black Mambazo off of Paul Simon’s Graceland. You can hear our review of Graceland on Bar'nSider (Paul Simon & Barn Door Ciderworks).

    Cheerwine Ale is a collaboration between NoDa Brewing and Cheerwine!  You can hear more about this beer during an episode of Beer Guys Radio featuring Chad Henderson, NoDa’s co-founder and head brewer.

    Up next… Screemers

    Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe.

    Visit Anosmia Awareness for more information on Barry’s condition.

    Follow Barry or Abigail on Untappd to see what we’re drinking when we’re not on mic!


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    2 hr
  • Jukebox: Chiller (Michael Jackson and lot 9 brewing co.)

    Barry, Abigail, and special guest Todd Sider (Abigail’s uncle and Barry’s brother-in-law) discuss Todd’s Jukebox submission, Thriller by Michael Jackson, and sample LingLing Lager, Lil Slice of Hefen, Buxom Blonde Ale, Queen Sour, and Sitting In Limbo from lot 9 brewing co. in Bluffton, South Carolina.

    Many thanks to Walter Trifari, brewmaster at lot 9 brewing co., for sitting down with us to chat about the brewery… and then staying on to chat with us about Thriller! Best surprise ever! You can find lot 9 on Facebook, X, and Instagram! lot 9’s website is also worth a look, especially the Beer 101 page!

    Listen to Todd’s previous Jukebox episode, our first ever Jukebox episode, Hoptenders (The Pretenders & Chapman's Brewing Co.)!

    Listen to our sister podcast discuss the “Weird Al” album which parodies Beat It on Dorks on Corks on 4-1 ("Weird Al" Yankovic and Schnebly Winery). We also briefly discussed Weird: The Al Yankovic Story, which you can watch for free on The Roku Channel!

    Farrah Fawcett died on the same day as Michael Jackson. We briefly discussed her famous poster.

    Abigail submitted Wanna Be Startin’ Somethin’ to the Abigail Hummel School of Speaking Smartly About Music with a comparison to Don’t Stop the Music by Rihanna.

    Walter brought to our attention One Bite Pizza Rankings.

    Thriller features Vincent Price, an American character actor who appeared in many horror films. Watch the famous music video for Thriller.

    Watch the music video for Beat It. The music video for Eat It is a shot-for-shot remake.

    Todd compared The Lady in My Life to Bill Murray’s Nick the Lounge Singer sketch on Saturday Night Live.

    Our next Jukebox episode will be He’s the DJ, I’m the Rapper by DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince, submitted by Barry’s brother and Abigail’s uncle, Derek Hummel, Sr. This episode is scheduled to drop on December 8, 2023.

    Up next… RKS by Rainbow Kitten Surprise

    Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe.

    Visit Anosmia Awareness for more information on Barry’s condition.

    Follow Barry or Abigail on Untappd to see what we’re drinking when we’re not on mic!


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    1 hr 59 min
  • Bonus: Cornell Exchange Hops (The O.A.K. Team and Oktoberfest Beers)

    Barry, Abigail, and special guest Jack Cornell discuss the newest single from Terry Anderson & The Olympic Ass-Kickin Team (or the O.A.K. Team), Chainsaw Repair Shop. We also sample Oktoberfest from 3 Sons Brewing Co. in Dania Beach, Florida, and Buzzfest from Infinite Ale Works in Ocala, Florida.

    A detailed history of Jack’s musical projects and collaborators is available in our episode Bonus: Friendship Wins (Jack Cornell and Tripping Animals Brewing).

    Buy Chainsaw Repair Shop, or pre-save it on Spotify!

    The genesis of this episode was Abigail sharing Had Me at Get Lost with Dave Z on our last episode, 62: Dave Z on Pops on Hops (The Smithereens & Chicagoland Beers).

    Clips shared on this episode are:

    1. Willie Mays by Terry Anderson & The Olympic Ass-Kickin Team (Barry’s favorite song off of National Champions)

    2. Fat Lady in the Stands by Terry Anderson & The Olympic Ass-Kickin Team

    3. Chainsaw Repair Shop debuted on Mojo Nixon’s The Loon in the Afternoon on SiriusXM Outlaw Country.

      Barry once again brought up A History of Rock Music in 500 Songs during a discussion of Leon Russell. Two episodes discussed Russell’s early work as a session pianist, including Episode 153: Heroes and Villains by The Beach Boys.

      Jack recommended Brave Combo, a genre-bending, accordion-heavy band from Texas.

      Up next… Thriller by Michael Jackson, submitted to our Virtual Jukebox by Todd Sider.

      Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe.

      Visit Anosmia Awareness for more information on Barry’s condition.

      Follow Barry or Abigail on Untappd to see what we’re drinking when we’re not on mic!


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      1 hr 7 min
    4. 62: Dave Z on Pops on Hops (The Smithereens and Chicagoland Beers)

      Barry, Abigail, and special guest Dave Zalatoris of the Beer in Front podcast discuss Smithereens 11 by The Smithereens and sample several Chicagoland beers of Dave’s choosing! We both taste WayBird Hazy IPA from Half Acre Beer Company and Arcade-Hero from Revolution Brewing Company. Abigail also tastes Hala Kahiki from Lake Effect Brewing Company and Barry tastes Vanilla Deth from Revolution Brewing Company.

      Listen to our appearance on Beer in Front!

      The Smithereens were one of the first artists to perform on MTV Unplugged, in December of 1989.

      Abigail entered Blues Before and After into the Abigail Hummel School of Speaking Smartly About Music with a comparison to Had Me at Get Lost by Terry Anderson & The Olympic Ass-Kickin Team…

      …And then Barry entered Blue Period - Acoustic into the Abigail Hummel School of Speaking Smartly About Music with a comparison to In My Life by The Beatles.

      Abigail felt the same way about Cut Flowers as she did about She Talks to Angels by The Black Crowes. Meanwhile, Barry compared it to a modern Eleanor Rigby.

      Barry once again brought up A History of Rock Music in 500 Songs, specifically Episode 61: “That’ll Be the Day” by The Crickets, which tells the first part of Buddy Holly’s story, and Episode 74: “It Doesn’t Matter Any More” by Buddy Holly, which references the story behind Maria Elena.

      Find Dave and Beer in Front on Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, TikTok, and on all podcasting platforms!

      Up next… Thriller by Michael Jackson, submitted to our Virtual Jukebox by Todd Sider.

      Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe.

      Visit Anosmia Awareness for more information on Barry’s condition.

      Follow Barry or Abigail on Untappd to see what we’re drinking when we’re not on mic!


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      1 hr 47 min
    5. Striped: Legend of the Green Zebra (Bryan Adams and Hans Zimmer and Founders Brewing Co.)
      Barry and Abigail discuss Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron (Music from the Original Motion Picture) by Bryan Adams and Hans Zimmer and sample Green Zebra Watermelon, Green Zebra Peach, Green Zebra Pineapple, and Green Zebra Mango from Founders Brewing Co. in Grand Rapids, Michigan.
      Barry revealed that the first song in the end credits of a film is eligible for an Oscar nomination. The David Byrne song This Is a Life that we briefly discussed in Byrned-Again (David Byrne and Lincoln & South Brewing) was nominated based on its presence in the end credits of Every Everything Everywhere All at Once.
      Barry and Abigail discussed the tendency of Disney animators to recycle various scenes in multiple movies. Watch some examples!
      Spirit: Stallion of the Cimmaron was directed by Kelly Asbury, whose monochrome books were staples in the Hummel household when Abigail was a child.
      Barry entered Get Off My Back into the Abigail Hummel School of Speaking Smartly About Music with Windy by The Association.
      Don’t Let Go reminded Abigail of the Xanadu soundtrack, particularly Suddenly. Listen to our discussion of Xanadu in our episode Can I Do (Xanadu Soundtrack and English Beers).
      Run Free reminded Abigail of Stampede, the song played over the wildebeest stampede scene in The Lion King (also composed by Hans Zimmer!).
      Barry saw zebras “in the wild” at Hearst Castle.
      The woodwinds in The Long Road Back reminded Abigail of the music of R. Carlos Nakai, a Native American flutist with Navajo-Ute heritage.
      Up next… Smithereens 11 by The Smithereens, featuring special guest Dave Zalatoris of the Beer in Front podcast! Listen to our appearance on Beer in Front!
      Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe.
      Visit Anosmia Awareness for more information on Barry’s condition.
      Follow Barry or Abigail on Untappd to see what we’re drinking when we’re not on mic!
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      1 hr 54 min
    6. Pour (Blues Traveler and Hopportunities)

      Barry and Abigail discuss Four by Blues Traveler and pour our own flights at Hopportunities in Delray Beach, Florida. We sample Butter Beer from Spanish Marie Brewery in Miami, Florida; Lumen from Grimm Artisan Ales in Brooklyn, New York; Tripping Through Maine (2022) from Barreled Souls Brewing in Saco, Maine (in collaboration with Tripping Animals Brewing Company in Doral, Florida); and Amorphia from Hudson Valley Brewery in Beacon, New York.

      Christmas by Blues Traveler is a Hummel family favorite Christmas song.

      Watch the music video for Run-Around, which was one of Barry’s first exposures to the music of this album.

      Barry compared the story structure of Price to Pay to that of Carolina Drama by The Raconteurs and the lyrical structure to that of Blinded by the Light by Manfred Mann’s Earth Band.

      Watch the meta music video for the very meta Hook.

      Up next… Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron (Music from the Original Motion Picture) by Bryan Adams and Hans Zimmer.

      Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe.

      Visit Anosmia Awareness for more information on Barry’s condition.

      Follow Barry or Abigail on Untappd to see what we’re drinking when we’re not on mic!


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      1 hr 43 min
    7. We Talk. We Drink. We Make Podcasts. (Jason Mraz and Petty Thieves Brewing Co.)

      Barry and Abigail discuss We Sing. We Dance. We Steal Things. by Jason Mraz and sample Lucky Strikes, Echoes of Sacrificial Voices, and Basking In the Glow from Petty Thieves Brewing Co. in Charlotte, North Carolina. We want to thank Barry’s college and medical school colleague, Dr. Michael McCrohan, for helping us obtain this fabulous beer, and for his “contribution to the arts.”

      Lucky Strikes is a collaboration with Cabarrus Brewing Co in Concord, North Carolina.

      The names of the beers we sampled today reminded Abigail of the names of the beers we sampled at Burial Beer Company in Asheville, North Carolina: Prophetmaker, A Canvas of Fragmented Memoirs, A Space For Sacrilege, and Of A Fading Season. Listen to our full episode at Burial, Consumers of the Barley (The Raconteurs and Burial Beer Co.).

      We make a lot of comparisons to Andy Grammer by Andy Grammer, which we reviewed in our episode Mind Your Grammer (Andy Grammer and Deadwords Brewing).

      Watch one of the TikToks Abigail referenced poking fun at artists including “raw audio” in their songs. Your Love is My Drug by Kesha is a great example of this phenomenon.

      Lucky features Colbie Caillat, whose song I Do appears on our family playlist of favorite love songs from 2011. Abigail’s choice on that playlist was The Bird and the Worm by Owl City, and Barry's was Maybe I'm Amazed by Paul McCartney.

      Abigail contends that Butterfly is no more explicit than Swimming In Your Ocean by Crash Test Dummies. Listen to our full discussion of Crash Test Dummies, Pops Shuffled His Feet (Crash Test Dummies and Toll Road Brewing).

      Details in the Fabric features James Morrison. We shared a little bit of his song Under the Influence.

      Up next… Four by Blues Traveler

      Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe.

      Visit Anosmia Awareness for more information on Barry’s condition.

      Follow Barry or Abigail on Untappd to see what we’re drinking when we’re not on mic!


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      1 hr 51 min
    8. Jukebox: Notional Commotional (MGMT and Great Notion Brewing)

      Barry and Abigail discuss our next Jukebox submission, Oracular Spectacular by MGMT and sample Oggy, Passionfruit Mochi, and Peanut Brother from Great Notion Brewing in Portland, Oregon. This album was submitted to our Virtual Jukebox by Paul Zawacki [The Procession, previously discussed on Musique Marécageuse (The Procession & Swamp Head Brewery) and interviewed on A Dozen Updates (The Procession Reunion Special)].

      Oggy is named after Ogopogo, a lake monster said to inhabit Okanagan Lake in British Columbia, Canada.

      Listen to Paul’s previous Jukebox episode, Abigail Battles the Pink Goblets (The Flaming Lips).

      Read the jambands.com article about MGMT’s performance on the Live on Letterman concert series, which introduced Paul to the band!

      Of Moons, Birds & Monsters reminds Abigail in mood and tone of Space Oddity by David Bowie and The Commander Thinks Aloud by The Long Winters. There is a fantastic episode of Song Exploder focused on The Commander Thinks Aloud, which was written about the Space Shuttle Columbia.

      Our next Jukebox episode will be Thriller by Michael Jackson, submitted by Todd Sider. This episode is scheduled to drop on September 29, 2023.

      Up next… We Sing. We Dance. We Steal Things. by Jason Mraz

      Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe.

      Visit Anosmia Awareness for more information on Barry’s condition.

      Follow Barry or Abigail on Untappd to see what we’re drinking when we’re not on mic!


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      1 hr 47 min
    9. Pops Shuffled His Flight (Crash Test Dummies and Toll Road Brewing Company)

      Barry and Abigail discuss God Shuffled His Feet by Crash Test Dummies and sample The Crowd Pleaser, Lowest Common Denominator, Mike's, St. Pete Parkour, and Sun Ryes from Toll Road Brewing Company in Ocoee, Florida.

      Many thanks to Duane Morin and David Strickland, co-owners and brewers at Toll Road Brewing, for sitting down with us to chat about the history and future of the brewery!

      Toll Road features two offerings, Choose Your Own Adventure (a hard seltzer) and Kayfabe (a Berliner Weisse) that can be customized with different flavors using beverage infusions!

      Barry recommended Superman’s Song from Crash Test Dummies’ first album, The Ghosts That Haunt Me.

      View the setlist of the performance that Barry saw in 1994 when Crash Test Dummies opened for Elvis Costello, and view this Variety review of the concert.

      Canities subita, also called Marie Antoinette syndrome or Thomas More syndrome, is an alleged condition of hair turning white overnight due to stress or trauma.

      This Los Angeles Times article from April 1994 discusses how the success of Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmm as a single drove the success of the entire album.

      Crash Test Dummies reference David Byrne in When I Go Out with Artists. Listen to our review of Byrne’s Uh-Oh, Byrned-Again (David Byrne and Lincoln & South Brewing).

      Up next… Oracular Spectacular by MGMT, submitted to our Virtual Jukebox by Paul Zawacki.

      Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe.

      Visit Anosmia Awareness for more information on Barry’s condition.

      Follow Barry or Abigail on Untappd to see what we’re drinking when we’re not on mic!


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      1 hr 47 min
    10. Mind Your Grammer (Andy Grammer and Deadwords Brewing)

      Barry and Abigail discuss Andy Grammer by Andy Grammer and sample Bridge, Proeza, Soft Pivot, and Harvest Moon from Deadwords Brewing in Orlando, Florida.

      Many thanks to Jack Henning, brewpub manager at Deadwords Brewing, for sitting down with us to chat about all the fun things going on at the brewery.

      Abigail played a sample of Honey, I’m Good. from Grammer’s second album to demonstrate the continuation of the misogyny displayed in his lyrics on this album.

      Abigail had her “Let’s Dance” moment with this album. Listen to our episode Let's Drink (David Bowie and Cultured Collective Brewing) to learn what exactly we mean by that!

      Barry heard Eric Clapton’s Change the World in The Pocket.

      Watch the music video for Biggest Man in Los Angeles.

      Our bonus review was for Underberg, a digestif made with herbs from 43 countries.

      Up next… God Shuffled His Feet by Crash Test Dummies

      Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe.

      Visit Anosmia Awareness for more information on Barry’s condition.

      Follow Barry or Abigail on Untappd to see what we’re drinking when we’re not on mic!


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      1 hr 49 min

    About Pops on Hops

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    A podcast where we listen to some pops, drink a little hops, and Abigail Hummel gets to hang out with her pop, Barry Hummel!

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