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Postmormon Postmortem
By Hannah and JessReligion & Spirituality
Postmormon Postmortem episodes
- You Didn't Get a Comment. You Got a Node. The LDS Influence Machine Explained.
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Theme song | Vocals: Hannah W. | Guitar: Dr. Dave | Audio: Mick
33 min - Joseph Smith’s Happiness Letter to Nancy Rigdon Was Worse Than We Thought
Joseph Smith’s “Happiness Letter” is famous for the line “Happiness is the object and design of our existence.”
But the full letter was connected to Nancy Rigdon, the 19-year-old daughter of Sidney Rigdon, after she refused Joseph Smith’s proposal of plural marriage.
We walk through the proposal, Nancy’s refusal, the full text of the letter, Joseph’s denial, Nancy’s confrontation, Sidney Rigdon’s private appeal, and Orson Hyde’s later public attack on Nancy’s character.
The Church has quoted the pretty part for generations. The full context is much harder to explain.
SHOW NOTES, including all sources mentioned in this episode, are available on Patreon with a FREE membership. FREE members also get our monthly newsletter. Paid memberships start at $2/month for AD-FREE listening. https://www.patreon.com/postmormonpostmortem
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Theme song | Vocals: Hannah W. | Guitar: Dr. Dave | Audio: Mick
21 min - Are Mormons Christian? The Pentagon Just Made It Awkward
Utah senators are demanding the Pentagon fix its religious categories after the LDS Church wasn't listed under "Christian."
We break down why that categorization reflects a 200-year-old theological dispute — covering the Nicene Creed, Joseph Smith's King Follett Discourse, the 2001 Vatican ruling on LDS baptisms, and how five major Christian denominations formally placed Mormonism outside the Christian community of faith between 1995 and 2001. The Pentagon didn't start this argument. It just put it on a form.
SHOW NOTES, including all sources mentioned in this episode, are available on Patreon with a FREE membership. FREE members also get our monthly newsletter. Paid memberships start at $2/month for AD-FREE listening. https://www.patreon.com/postmormonpostmortem
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Theme song | Vocals: Hannah W. | Guitar: Dr. Dave | Audio: Mick
11 min - How Mormons Deliver Harm in the Language of Love
SHOW NOTES, including all sources mentioned in this episode, are available on Patreon with a FREE membership. FREE members also get our monthly newsletter. Paid memberships start at $2/month for AD-FREE listening. https://www.patreon.com/postmormonpostmortem
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Theme song | Vocals: Hannah W. | Guitar: Dr. Dave | Audio: Mick
45 min - The Mormon Church Has Never Apologized for the Mountain Meadows Massacre
In this minisode, Hannah looks at the Mountain Meadows Massacre through one specific question: what would a real apology from the Mormon Church actually sound like?
Using a ten-part framework for meaningful apologies, she builds the apology the Church should have given to the victims’ descendants, then compares it to the Church’s actual response: silence, blame-shifting, scapegoating, “profound regret,” and an explicit refusal to call any of it an apology.
This episode discusses the 1857 Mountain Meadows Massacre, John D. Lee, institutional accountability, Mormon history, and what repair would require after religious violence.
SHOW NOTES, including all sources mentioned in this episode, are available on Patreon with a FREE membership. FREE members also get our monthly newsletter. Paid memberships start at $2/month for AD-FREE listening. https://www.patreon.com/postmormonpostmortem
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Theme song | Vocals: Hannah W. | Guitar: Dr. Dave | Audio: Mick
11 min - What Is a “Dry Mormon”? The Mormon Lifestyle Without the Religion
New York magazine says America is in a second Mormon moment, and this time the church didn't do a thing — the influencers did it for them. This week on What Do You Know Wednesday, Jess puts Hannah on the spot with a phrase neither of us grew up with: the dry Mormon.
A dry Mormon lives the lifestyle without the theology. No alcohol, no coffee, clean eating, modest fashion, community-first values, and none of the belief. Some were never Mormon at all; they found the aesthetic on TikTok and stayed. We trace the term through dirty soda culture, the rise of influencers like Hannah Neeleman of Ballerina Farm and Taylor Frankie Paul of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, and the Pew data showing devout traditionalists shrinking while cultural Mormons and the PIMO crowd grow. The church gains the wholesome branding while losing the believers, the tithing, and any control over the word it spent years trying to retire.
SHOW NOTES, including all sources mentioned in this episode, are available on Patreon with a FREE membership. FREE members also get our monthly newsletter. Paid memberships start at $2/month for AD-FREE listening. https://www.patreon.com/postmormonpostmortem
TO SUPPORT THE SHOW (Thank you!)
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- Buy Me a Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/postmormonpostmortem
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Theme song | Vocals: Hannah W. | Guitar: Dr. Dave | Audio: Mick
12 min - Why Dallin Oaks Is Being Asked to Defend Utah’s Courts
David Bennett, a former Utah Supreme Court justice, wrote to Dallin Oaks in the Salt Lake Tribune on May 14. Oaks is also a former Utah Supreme Court justice and the current president of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The ask: speak out for Utah's courts.
The context is Proposition 4, the anti-gerrymandering law Utah voters passed in 2018. The legislature repealed it in 2020 and drew its own map. Five years of litigation followed. In late 2025 the courts threw out the legislature's replacement map and installed one drawn by plaintiffs including the League of Women Voters and Mormon Women for Ethical Government. Republican-appointed justices upheld those rulings, and a campaign to remove two of them followed.
SHOW NOTES, including all sources mentioned in this episode, are available on Patreon with a FREE membership. FREE members also get our monthly newsletter. Paid memberships start at $2/month for AD-FREE listening. https://www.patreon.com/postmormonpostmortem
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Theme song | Vocals: Hannah W. | Guitar: Dr. Dave | Audio: Mick
5 min - Joseph Smith’s Polygamy: What the Mormon Church Now Admits
SHOW NOTES, including all sources mentioned in this episode, are available on Patreon with a FREE membership. FREE members also get our monthly newsletter. Paid memberships start at $2/month for AD-FREE listening. https://www.patreon.com/postmormonpostmortem
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Theme song | Vocals: Hannah W. | Guitar: Dr. Dave | Audio: Mick
54 min - Why Mormon Apologists Keep Showing Up in Exmormons' Comments Sections
Mormon influencers are showing up in exmo spaces — and it's not random. Jess breaks down the two categories: lifestyle creators making the church look aspirational, and apologetics accounts showing up in your comment sections with layered, funded arguments. We get into the Faith Creators Alliance, the nonprofit infrastructure supporting 70+ LDS creators with studio space and content strategy coaching, and what a 2025 Wall Street Journal investigation revealed about direct church payments to creators. Knowing it's a coordinated operation changes how you engage with it — and whether you engage at all.
11 min - Mormon Influencers Showing Up In Ex-Mormon Comments
A video about a boy’s priesthood authority drew a sudden wave of comments from Mormon influencer accounts. We walk through their four recurring arguments, the question nobody answered, and the networks that organize pro-Mormon content.
SHOW NOTES, including all sources mentioned in this episode, are available on Patreon with a FREE membership. FREE members also get our monthly newsletter. Paid memberships start at $2/month for AD-FREE listening. https://www.patreon.com/postmormonpostmortem
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Theme song | Vocals: Hannah W. | Guitar: Dr. Dave | Audio: Mick
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About Postmormon Postmortem
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Mormonism gave you a complete universe, with charts, diagrams, and a plan for everything. Leaving can dismantle all of it at once. Postmormon Postmortem is hosted by Hannah and Jess, two women who…
left the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and wanted more honest conversations about what comes after. We cover Mormon history, doctrine, culture, true crime, institutional harm, religious trauma, and the messy work of rebuilding a life outside the church. Whether you're freshly out, years removed, or trying to understand someone you love, you're in the right place.