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Postmormon Postmortem
By Hannah and JessReligion & Spirituality
Postmormon Postmortem episodes
- Joseph Smith and Freemasonry: How Masonic Ritual Entered the Mormon Temple
The apron Lucifer wears in the LDS temple ceremony isn't in Genesis — it's Masonic. Joseph Smith became a Master Mason in 1842, and seven weeks later, the endowment appeared using the same signs.
Jess and Hannah trace Joseph Smith's rushed 1842 Masonic initiation under Grand Master Abraham Jonas, the pre-1990 temple penalties and their exact Masonic parallels, the Five Points of Fellowship at the veil, the Grand Hailing Sign of Distress and its link to Joseph's last words at Carthage, the Hiram Abiff legend, and the 1826 disappearance of William Morgan — whose widow later became one of Joseph's plural wives. The apron was never decoration. It's the ceremony's own lesson in spotting a borrowed credential, aimed everywhere except at the man who wrote it.
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Theme song | Vocals: Hannah W. | Guitar: Dr. Dave | Audio: Mick
1 hr 2 min - The Bear River Massacre and the Mormon Settlement of Shoshone Land
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Theme song | Vocals: Hannah W. | Guitar: Dr. Dave | Audio: Mick
15 min - Why 42% of Mormons Leave Over Church History... And the Church Keeps Blaming Your Character
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Theme song | Vocals: Hannah W. | Guitar: Dr. Dave | Audio: Mick
10 min - Temple Recommends, Shunning, and Love Bombing: How Mormon Exclusion Works
The LDS Church doesn't need anyone to be cruel. The recommend interview, the ministering grid, and the love bombing cycle do the work — and they were built to.
Jess and Hannah break down three structural practices built into LDS institutional life: temple recommend gatekeeping (and what the tithing declaration actually does inside that interview), passive shunning through record removal and ministering reassignment, and love bombing as a retention tool that uses real warmth to close real distance. They also name — and forward — the LGBTQ conditional belonging episode, because that architecture is categorically distinct and needs its own space. If you've ever tried to explain to someone why leaving felt like losing everything, not just your faith, this is the framework you've been looking for. The harm doesn't need cruelty. It was designed in.
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Theme song | Vocals: Hannah W. | Guitar: Dr. Dave | Audio: Mick
46 min - The Woman Who Wilford Woodruff May Have Secretly Married
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Theme song | Vocals: Hannah W. | Guitar: Dr. Dave | Audio: Mick
12 min - Mormon Political Power in Utah: How Neutral Is the Church?
Why does Utah's most Democratic city sit at the heart of the LDS Church? This week on Postmormon Postmortem, we examine Salt Lake City's political evolution, Utah's controversial redistricting battles, and the Church's claims of political neutrality. From gerrymandering and court fights to the Pentagon's rapid reversal on LDS religious classification, we explore what influence looks like when faith, power, and politics intersect in modern Mormonism.
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Theme song | Vocals: Hannah W. | Guitar: Dr. Dave | Audio: Mick
9 min - Joseph Smith’s First Vision: The Account Mormons Weren’t Taught
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Theme song | Vocals: Hannah W. | Guitar: Dr. Dave | Audio: Mick
45 min - Why Are MLMs So Popular in Utah? The Mormon Connection
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Theme song | Vocals: Hannah W. | Guitar: Dr. Dave | Audio: Mick
18 min - Reckless Ben vs. Bricks & Minifigs: The Mormon Mafia Claim
A missing Lego Star Wars collection somehow became one of the strangest Mormon-adjacent internet stories of the year so far.
Bryan Mansell says his family’s valuable Lego collection was taken after a Bricks & Minifigs consignment deal went bad. Reckless Ben turned the dispute into a viral investigation. Then American Fork police got involved. There were searches, arrests, charges, a lawsuit, a restraining order, a closed Oregon franchise, and a growing online claim that this was all really about the “Mormon mafia.”
In this Postmormon Postmortem mini episode, we separate what’s documented from what people want to be true.
There’s also no honest way to talk about this story without talking about Utah County, Mormon social networks, in-group protection, reputation management, and the way shared religious culture can shape business, policing, and public trust.
You don’t need a secret Mormon cabal to explain this. You need a tight community, an instinct to protect your own, and a police department operating inside a heavily Mormon social world.
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Theme song | Vocals: Hannah W. | Guitar: Dr. Dave | Audio: Mick
13 min - Mormon Church Historian Kyle McKay Apologizes for Racist Remarks
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Theme song | Vocals: Hannah W. | Guitar: Dr. Dave | Audio: Mick
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About Postmormon Postmortem
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Mormonism gave you a complete universe, with charts, diagrams, and a plan for everything. Leaving can dismantle all of it at once. Postmormon Postmortem is hosted by Hannah and Jess, two women who…
left the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and wanted more honest conversations about what comes after. We cover Mormon history, doctrine, culture, true crime, institutional harm, religious trauma, and the messy work of rebuilding a life outside the church. Whether you're freshly out, years removed, or trying to understand someone you love, you're in the right place.